The Mourinho Thread

[Rmpr 8,977]

RIP 'Little Horse'

Holly hell I forgot about that. It was pretty hilarious, it was good old Jose!

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

It'll be interesting if/when he gets sacked, if certain players start playing properly again.

It's like when AVB (alright not the greatest manager or very popular) got sacked and the players were laughing a joking before a FA Cup game away at birmingham I believe. It irritated me, these players should give their all regardless of the manager imo. I guess football isn't that way any more.

Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.

Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.

[Polo7 3,496]

Fabio Capello wants to replace Jose Mourinho at Chelsea Former England boss wants Stamford Bridge role

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6721108/Fabio-Capello-wants-to-replace-Jose-Mourinho-at-Chelsea.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSunFootball-TheSunFootball-_-20151101-_-Sport-_-267619902-_-Imageandlink

HAHAHAHA

Lol. Needed a laugh.

[Tomo 21,733]

Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.

Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.

While I sympathised with Matic when it happened because others deserved it more, I didn't sympathise looking at it in isolation, he was utterly abysmal when he came on.

If AVB did that to Lamps when the player power stories were growing there would have been a wankfest on how he's "standing up to the players".

[zolayes 14,489]

Lol. Needed a laugh.

if he says no we can ask Sven

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.

Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.

I absolutely agree with you re: Matic. If you go back to the game thread from then I said how bad that was for him and embarrassing to see it as a big fan of his. I wouldn't blame him for not having confidence in the manager after that but, I would like to think that the club who pays his wages and the fans who back him, get his name on the back of their shirt, chant his name at games, means something too. I am aware of how difficult it must be, being unfairly out of favour when others at the time were playing worse, but at the end of the day I expect a man who earns big bucks to play for a team to be able to at least work hard. Side note: Not saying Matic doesn't work hard, just using him as an example.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Players aren't robots, they are human too and human have emotion. Imagine how Matic feel when he got subbed in front of million of watching Chelsea fans world wide during that Southampton game, his confidence in Jose will never be the same again no matter what they say.

Also if what you are saying applies then no manager will ever be out of jobs because they can all turn it around hence no need to change ever. Basically changes happen or necessary WHEN the signs of players not wanting to play for the manager anymore are clear.

Agreed, but they are supposed to be professionals. If you have a problem with the manager, go tell him. If he doesn't listen, go tell the board, the owner, whatever. But if you compromise the club's result in order to make the manager leave, then you are a traitor and you should be expelled as soon as possible from any club, not only Chelsea FC. There's no man bigger than the club, and that includes those "sensitive" pricks.

[J.F. 1,484]

Most of members on this forum want manager who is going to play attacking football. So my question is who is going to replace Mourinho if he get sacked?

[Muzchap 8,966]

Holly hell I forgot about that. It was pretty hilarious, it was good old Jose!

Yeah made me nostalgic - that's when I was 100% optimistic we would dominate for years

[Tomo 21,733]

Agreed, but they are supposed to be professionals. If you have a problem with the manager, go tell him. If he doesn't listen, go tell the board, the owner, whatever. But if you compromise the club's result in order to make the manager leave, then you are a traitor and you should be expelled as soon as possible from any club, not only Chelsea FC. There's no man bigger than the club, and that includes those "sensitive" pricks.

I don't think there deliberately sabotaging results, but if players are suffering emotionally, mentally or with relationships with colleges or anything it's not something that can be switched off, trust me i know that as much as anyone.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Most of members on this forum want manager who is going to play attacking football. So my question is who is going to replace Mourinho if he get sacked?

Mate - seriously - Sam Allardyce would make us look like Barcelona right now!

That's how bad it is!!!

[Last Sicarius 610]

Most of members on this forum want manager who is going to play attacking football. So my question is who is going to replace Mourinho if he get sacked?

Only Carlo. He was here he knows what is going on.

[Hutcho 8,443]

The Question is who do you bring in if you sack mourniho. Mouronho is one of the best managers tactically in the world yet this season we have been a farce. Personally i wouldn't sack him, as the players clearly need a rocket up thier arse. Also if he has "los the dressing room" which i doubt is anywhere close to the extent people will want you to believe, the bigger problem we have is players so up themselves they won't play their best because of a manager. And if thats the case we are deeply screwed whatever we do on the Mourinho front.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I don't think there deliberately sabotaging results, but if players are suffering emotionally, mentally or with relationships with colleges or anything it's not something that can be switched off, trust me i know that as much as anyone.

Indeed and relationships are like vases - once broken, they can be glued back together, but it is never the same and the cracks still exist

It's just so fucking sad and pathetic we have ended up here - that's my biggest annoyance!!!! Hasn't either party learnt anything?

[Jase 43,479]

The board were complacent. Simple as that really.

To be fair a little bit, while we all could see there are problems with this squad, no one would have expected us to be suffering this badly. Even if we're not challenging for the title, you would think we would at least be in the top half rather than the bottom half of the table right now.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

This is such a defining week for our club. Its crazy how this season has gone and it seems to all come down to this weeks two games. If we beat Kiev and lose to Stoke is that enough? Not for me. And probably not enough for Roman and the higher ups.

I am not looking forward to watching either but I will because I will continue to support the team whoever the manager is, I expect the players to play with professionalism also.

Christ.

[Peace. 4,352]

Thanks @Peace for an analytical view of the reasons for our current state ,, In addition to the Spurs game I would also mention the Bradford melt down ,,

That followed by the Spurs seemed to trigger a chain reaction .. imo there is no way he can turn this round .. This is not player power either , It is a manager losing the respect

of his players .

Yes and after there was the two games against PSG. Where as in regards to the League the opportunity was too big to miss and the reward too important to pass upon (and we had also a good opportunity in the league cup), we had slim chances in the UCL (Barça, Real, Munich...) and and Cup too far away to bother... Combined with a negative football, that is how you lose against ten men and eleven third division players that want the victory more than you.

And as I have said, the predicament given to some players has certainly affected the dressing room. Ba was a great friend of Hazard and Eto'o seemed to have a good relationship with Eden and influence upon him — and Hazard himself was severly criticized by Mourinho (after the game against Atletico ?). De Bruyne and Lukaku cases have also certainly affected their national team mates Courtois and Hazard. Oscar's position in regards to the Mata saga must have been hard to handle. He involuntarily became the player that ousted the beloved Spaniard. And Mourinho did not really show him a strong backing as Oscar was easily expandable against the 'big' teams. Our Brazilian players also might have been affected by how the Luizs of the long-haor tribe were dumped. The strange case of Schurlle also had impact I believe... He seemed to be a lovely guy that can only be appreciated within the dressing room. There is Salah too... Maybe Bertrand and Cole... and Cuadrado ? Certainly Remy this season...

One could even throw the Cech case. To replace him by Courtois was a hard decision but a necessary one. If the atmosphere is serene you can cope easily with that kind of situation. But when there is already a bad atmosphere, it can add unnecessary tensions.

And more recently there is many other cases. Eva which seemed to be popular among the dressing room was kicked out of the club and in the process Mourinho — unconsciously or not — implied that Hazard was faking. He then once again attacked Hazard regarding his defensive commitment/capabilities... What happened/happens to Matic was really harsh. It is rude to be substituted after a few minutes — it is even harder when you are a substitute. And now he seems in and out of the team, just as Oscar. And Ivanovic's privileged position might also irritates the already irritated players as he is given a free pass to make as many mistakes as he can — as long as he discuss it with Mourinho (or in other words, that he bends his knee down to him..).

That combined with the constant war with the world of Football is probably too much to handle. The situation is the result of many little things that when combined form a really bad thing. 8 games lost out of 16 (9 out of 17 if you had the shield..). 5 wins that aside from Arsenal were against West Brom, Maccabi, Aston Villa and Walsall... We have entered a zone of non-retour either the disapproving ones or the disapproved one have to go.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

You didn't answer me the other day when I asked who your favroite person who has ever represented Chelsea Is? Preferably Someone who has made a significant impact at the club.

Dennis Wise now move on