blues.bridge 343 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 not be the points that worries me, but the play.chelsea have to get over mourinho and take Klopp, schmidt or similar.mou out, why:-he worries only his reputation, blaming or medical or players ( i know if player plays bad have to be recovered, but at home, not on tv in front at all.)if he keep like that he will have all squad versus.-taking away fabregas and maybe costa, his market decision ( in and out) have done shit! ( sell KDB, take cuadrado, willian etc)-moreover, he already never give a change at young, now that he risks still less, so if roman wants to see a accademy succes he have to fire him!-overall this without saying about play! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We're 8 points from City and a loss would mean 11 points...The only players "injured" are oscar and ramires. This season we allowed 9 goals. Liverpool+united+city+ arsenal has allowed a total of 8 goals....It's easy to see that Jose has lost the locker room and the team isn't responding. Unless, you want to drag it out...We need to stand by the manager this season. If it ends bad then sack him at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Imagine we do a Dortmund last season...fighting relegation until February. It is all good to give the manager time but there has to be a limit as well, for example if by October we still have only won twice or something then a serious change would need to be considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Imagine we do a Dortmund last season...fighting relegation until February. It is all good to give the manager time but there has to be a limit as well, for example if by October we still have only won twice or something then a serious change would need to be considered.and only win , we have won very luckily, if we had only got 2 poits istead 4, there wouldn't nothing to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 and only win , we have won very luckily, if we had only got 2 poits istead 4, there wouldn't nothing to sayKTF the ONLY teams to have beaten us are the TOP two and the team we drew with are 4th ... we will be fine when we meet the weaker teams ..Everton and Arsenal up soon ,, a walk in the park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! SinineUltra 1,170 Posted August 30, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 30, 2015 What are the odds of Jose getting sacked now? Losing to everton should seal it. Sacking isn't the solution. We should stick to Mourinho, work out a solution, because situation like this will come back haunting us again sooner than later. Overcoming this obsticle will make us a better team for not going the easy route all the time with buying new players and hiring new managers. Fulham Broadway, Thendo, Barbara and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Eden Hazard and Cesc Fabregas in firing line as Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho warns he isn't afraid to sell underperforming starsJosé Mourinho tells Chelsea’s struggles medals should motivate them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Eden Hazard and Cesc Fabregas in firing line as Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho warns he isn't afraid to sell underperforming starsJosé Mourinho tells Chelsea’s struggles medals should motivate themthis is just getting more and more worrying ... xPetrCechx and blues.bridge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted August 30, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 30, 2015 Another rather worrying issue that hasn't been brought up in the wake of this mess is just how comfortable all of our opponents have looked against us. In the final few minutes of the last game, Palace were so comfortable that they even had time and confidence to cause our defence more problems and create chances. can you imagine something like that hapenning to other big teams?The fear factor alone wouldn't even let them dominate like that against City or arsenal for example. This is just not good enough. it's one thing to lose to matches or drop points but for a "big team" to lose or drop points in the fashion we have been is unacceptable imo.When I watch other top teams, normally when they drop points especially to the smaller teams, it's because the opposition have been quite lucky with their goal keeper and even sometimes the woodwork coming to their rescue multiple times and literally holding on for dare lives. When chelsea are chasing the game on the otherhand, we rarely genuinely trouble our opponents defence and cause them problems. when was the last time we applied relentless pressure on our opponents when chasing the game (by relentless pressure, I mean creating chances after chances?)Another point of discussion that hasn't been given attention to is the lack of foundation being laid down by Mourinho. This is his third season at the club and we are yet to develop an identity and a template/formula that not only works but can be passed on to future managers to follow. What is mourinho actually doing to improve the team and the club both in the long and short term? zolayes, couris, Korial and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Sacking isn't the solution. We should stick to Mourinho, work out a solution, because situation like this will come back haunting us again sooner than later. Overcoming this obsticle will make us a better team for not going the easy route all the time with buying new players and hiring new managers.Your also risking losing players..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Another rather worrying issue that hasn't been brought up in the wake of this mess is just how comfortable all of our opponents have looked against us. In the final few minutes of the game, Palace were so comfortable that they even had time and confidence to cause our defence more problems and create chances. can you imagine something like that hapenning to other big teams? This is just not good enough. it's one thing to lose to matches or drop points but for a "big team" to lose or drop points in such fashion is unacceptable imo. When I watch other top teams, normally when they drop points especially to the smaller teams, it's because the opposition have been quite lucky with their goal keeper and even sometimes the woodwork coming to their rescue. When chelsea are chasing the game on the otherhand, we rarely genuinely trouble our opponents defence and cause them trouble.Another point of discussion that hasn't been given attention to is the lack of foundation being laid down by Mourinho. This is his third season at the club and we are yet to develop an identity and a template/formula that not only works but can be passed on to future managers to follow. What is mourinho actually doing to improve the team and the club both in the long and short term?nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I swear if we lose Hazard or one of our star player because of him think Im gonna lose it. KDB signing for City today was bad enough, now if we lose a better player because of similar bs I hope the board do what is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Mourinho is not a manager to build a long term team. Since he came back the team usually is very uninspiring in the market. He definetely doesn't know whats going on around. Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Costa, Felipe Luis. 3 players coming from La Liga. 2 of them Barcelona rejects, and one of La Liga's top scorer before he joined. Matic was an ex-Chelsea player.The only player was a little different was Cuadrado and he was a disaster.He tried to sign a decadent Rooney for a huge amount of money 2 years ago, and almost paid 40m for an unproven CB, a move that would put to shame PSG/Luiz/40m.I really doubt the club will see Mata, Hazard or Oscar in near future. Instead I expect Sergio Ramos, Rakitic, Benzama, Ribery, when they are no longer good enough to start games for Barcelona, Real or Bayern.Swansea just bought Ayew for free, and thats unbelievable, because the man is just better than Cuadrado, Moses or William. King11Didier, 11Drogba, Reddish-Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Another rather worrying issue that hasn't been brought up in the wake of this mess is just how comfortable all of our opponents have looked against us. In the final few minutes of the last game, Palace were so comfortable that they even had time and confidence to cause our defence more problems and create chances. can you imagine something like that hapenning to other big teams? The fear factor alone wouldn't even let them dominate like that against City or arsenal for example. This is just not good enough. it's one thing to lose to matches or drop points but for a "big team" to lose or drop points in such fashion is unacceptable imo. When I watch other top teams, normally when they drop points especially to the smaller teams, it's because the opposition have been quite lucky with their goal keeper and even sometimes the woodwork coming to their rescue. When chelsea are chasing the game on the otherhand, we rarely genuinely trouble our opponents defence and cause them trouble.Another point of discussion that hasn't been given attention to is the lack of foundation being laid down by Mourinho. This is his third season at the club and we are yet to develop an identity and a template/formula that not only works but can be passed on to future managers to follow. What is mourinho actually doing to improve the team and the club both in the long and short term?Agreed The 4-2-3-1 formation has fucked me off for yearsWhy can't we adapt and have that plus other formationsI think he's lost the dressing room - I think our attacking players are sick and tied of having defence rammed down their throats It's about balance And if he is seriously threatening to sell our top players - I'm sorry his time is done here He promised to integrate youth and hasn't - we are pushing huge money to other clubs for players that could and should have come via our Academy. I know something is going on behind the scenes. And, as Jose's father is very ill - he could easily take a sabbatical this season and we bring in a temporary manager. There are plenty of candidates who could get us into CL places this season... Just a thought... zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks Muz this is about your third post on this topic and each time you have identified exactly what is going wrong .. One can only hope others in authorityhave solutions . I am concerned that Jose hasn't Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I was waiting for this. good to criticize them. Remember last time what happened when he criticized Hazard and now he is the best player. I'm waiting the same answer from Hazard.OK - but where is the criticism of Ivanovic? He's blaming midfielders and wingers for not defending - when the one fucking player that's meant to defend isn't! This is just looney tunes from Jose and I hope it's been taken out of context. Reddish-Blue and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 So, who is on Jose's side in the locker room? I'm guessing the backline, Costa, and willian....Mikel, rambo, pedro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Mourinho criticises #CFC board for failing to secure targets in wake of Crystal Palace defeat http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11834156/Jose-Mourinho-criticises-Chelsea-board-for-failing-to-secure-targets-in-wake-of-Crystal-Palace-defeat.htmlHe is right.Hmm maybe the bigger question is 'do the board trust him in the transfer market'He's made some pretty fucking shit decisions lately Who would blame them for questioning it. Fernando, Iggy Doonican and laura90 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 So, who is on Jose's side in the locker room? I'm guessing the backline, Costa, and willian....Mikel, rambo, pedro.Im not sure he still has JT on board . I think his treatment of Eva might have seriously upset some players including John .For all his faults away from the club John is a very good colleague . Is is coincidence that he was originally dropped from the team then subbed at HT just daysafter the Eva episode. I believe he may have spoken up for her ,,hence his subsequent treatment. From the players body language it is obvious things are wrong .Will be interesting to see just which players are chosen for media duties Muzchap, laura90 and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I agree with u mate. I want to see Ivanovic on the bench but i think the reason why he played on Saturday was because Terry's absence and he is our vice captain and one of the old guard and Jose maybe thought we need his experience but he (iva) fucked up againYeah sorry wasnt aiming it at you Just pissed at the article I don't think I can blame the players at the min - I can only blame Mou.I feel sorry for the players and even under Rafa - I think our current team would have played better and beaten Palace - and I never ever ever thought I would say that! The FSW was a nightmare I thought I had forgotten!!! Roquila and iceboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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