The Mourinho Thread

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I think you are mistaken .. as I read it only Man Utd RETAINED the title after a poor start

yep 2007/8 and 2008/9 and 1996/7 they managed to RETAIN the title despite poor start

What happened to day we were. Outplayed, Out thought, Out Run, Outclassed, Outmaneuvered, Outsung, (by those wannabe Ultras). Out to grass Fabregas, Cahill and Matic, Out on his ear Ivanovic, Out of the top four at the end of the season? Jose Out of a job if we are ? Outlandish?.

We will recover. I'll put my money on 3rd place finish. 4th if jose gets fired.

[zolayes 14,489]

The thing that annoys me the most and is just starting to make me crack a bit is the fact that we have no defined style of play. You never know which Chelsea you're going to get from game to game. I used to roll my eyes these past couple of seasons when I'd read some posters here questioned whether José even practiced and trained any attacking football. I'm starting to question that now myself. Game after game after game we look like we don't have a clue what to do with the ball in possession. We have players with unbelievable skill and ability but it's like they simply don't have a plan once they get around the box. Everyone just stands around.

It seems like about 75% of the time Hazard gets the ball passed to him he's at walking pace where he isn't nearly as dangerous. Willian is seriously a donkey when it comes to finishing. Our players may as well start jogging back into defense as soon as the ball leaves his foot because you know it's going out for a goal kick.

A lot of this HAS to be coaching. You look at literally all of our rivals and they have set styles that are all way more pleasing on the eye and effective than ours. Just compare us in the final third to City and Arsenal. Their players look like they've spent countless hours in training working on their interplay, movement, one-twos, forming triangles and all that. They just easily slice through teams like they aren't there. We rely almost entirely on a lightning counter attack or some individual magic from a player. That doesn't happen and we're totally limp and simple as hell to play against.

Teams gets scared by Cityand Arsenal before they even step on the pitch because they know with certainty that they'll have little possession and be on the ropes most of the game. They know with us now that if you just work hard, press, and get after our guys they can get a result. No one seems intimidated by us any longer. Even small teams. I heard a quote from Pardew before the game saying that he wants Palace to "take the game to us." And they do just that. A side that we should be blowing away.

We should be setting out almost every single match day with the mindset that we're far superior to the opposition and that we should dominate the ball.

You can dominate by concentrating on attacking IF you have a controlling midfield

to play the counter attacking game you need an excellent defence combined with speed on the counter.

we are equipped to do neither atm.

[Pizy 19,374]

You can dominate by concentrating on attacking IF you have a controlling midfield

to play the counter attacking game you need an excellent defence combined with speed on the counter.

we are equipped to do neither atm.

Its sad.

Feels like all of our great players are going to waste.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

yep 2007/8 and 2008/9 and 1996/7 they managed to RETAIN the title despite poor start

We will recover. I'll put my money on 3rd place finish. 4th if jose gets fired.

I hope your right M.L. but something is not right something is simmering below the surface. Parallels have to be made between 2007 and now. Something's eating Mourinho he's been taciturn since the start of the season. In 2007 he had the likes of Sidwell and Pizarro foisted on him. Last pre season everyone bought and paid for well before the season started. This season the tug of war with Man U with Pedro which fair enough we won. The Stones fiasco and it was absolutely pointless putting a bid of 20 million for Stones Everton were always going to turn that down. So any subsequent bids Everton were always going to play hard ball. If the original bid was 30 million i think it would have been a done deal possibly 32 to 35 million max. As for Pogba well it's not going to happen end of story

[J.F. 1,484]

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[LDN Blue 7,903]

they probably did not have a super strong ManCity with a 12 points start ahead of them.

It is not that we can not be still succesfull this season but we have to get our shit together quickly + we have to sign some better defenders and midfielders. I honestly believe we are about a international class cb and cm away from winning coc and fa cup and about 2 wc defenders, 1 wc cm and one wc no.10 away from CL.

But mate, how many times have we seen in such recent times alone how much the 'head start' doesn't matter. Teams with less quality than us have chased bigger point margains.. United have done it, hell we've done it a few times. It's still far too premature to begin to get carried away with all this "worst start" crisis talk.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I think you are mistaken .. as I read it only Man Utd RETAINED the title after a poor start

Ah I misread the table entirely lol, I stand corrected :tophat:

[Jase 43,479]

If we do end up losing our title this season, I hope, at the very least, we make a strong case in our attempt to defend it. Would be embarrassing if we just tail off and don't even put up a fight, like what City and United have done in previous seasons.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

But mate, how many times have we seen in such recent times alone how much the 'head start' doesn't matter. Teams with less quality than us have chased bigger point margains.. United have done it, hell we've done it a few times. It's still far too premature to begin to get carried away with all this "worst start" crisis talk.

I don't remeber any title-winning team ever having recovered being 8 points down after 4 games. Utd have won a chasing title in 2007 but were always within touching distance. chelsea never won a title chasing cos we never had the mental strength to do so. the only chasing title winner i can remember in the last 10 years was city who had 11 points on utd in february but that was an absolute average utd team they hunted down.

[Jase 43,479]

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I don't remeber any title-winning team ever having recovered being 8 points down after 4 games. Utd have won a chasing title in 2007 but were always within touching distance. chelsea never won a title chasing cos we never had the mental strength to do so. the only chasing title winner i can remember in the last 10 years was city who had 11 points on utd in february but that was an absolute average utd team they hunted down.

Ah then my memory betrays me. But I stand by the points after that, I still believe it's far too early to be making any assumptions about the title race. Yes, we've severly handicapped ourselves with this abysmal start but it's not over. City still have to play their share of troubling clubs and will definitely drop points along the way.. We just have to hope we can begin a winning mentality & reality.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

But mate, how many times have we seen in such recent times alone how much the 'head start' doesn't matter. Teams with less quality than us have chased bigger point margains.. United have done it, hell we've done it a few times. It's still far too premature to begin to get carried away with all this "worst start" crisis talk.

Past history is exactly what it is history and meaningless in the here and now If you honestly think we are on a par even in this early stage of the season with City then either your the worlds biggest optimist or you've had a serious bet on us winning the league.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

See, this is why his subtitutions were slightly bizzare. Taking of his more consistent performers in Azpilicueta & Matic when we're only a goal down? Okay he's admitted he wishes he had taken (what we can assume to be) Ivanovic off, had he another sub left. On one hand, I can't fault him for bringing on Loftus-Cheek (the more minutes that boy gets, the better!!). But Fabregas & Hazard needed a telling message today.

Past history is exactly what it is history and meaningless in the hear and now If you honestly think we are on a par even in this early stage of the season with City then either your the worlds biggest optimist or you've had a serious bet on us winning the league.

the former to be honest. But what else can I be? Lol. It's simply tragic to watch this start, shades of Borussia Dortmund of last season.. A team full of superstars playing like a relegation surviving team. I'm inclined more to believe we can fix this rather than crumble.

[The Mak 4,459]

Ivanovic leaving is the only thing I have left to hope for in this transfer window.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

Ivanovic leaving is the only thing I have left to hope for in this transfer window.

Too little to late Mak i'm afraid . The worse thing about today was and every man and woman who supports the blues knew that Ivan was the weak link. What did Pardew do let Zaha rip him a new one for an hour and then bring on Bolasie. What did Mourinho do? Take off Dave and bring on a 19 year old kid and play him out of position on his league debut

[The Mak 4,459]

Too little to late Mak i'm afraid . The worse thing about today was and every man and woman who supports the blues knew that Ivan was the weak link. What did Pardew do let Zaha rip him a new one for an hour and then bring on Bolasie. What did Mourinho do? Take off Dave and bring on a 19 year old kid and play him out of position on his league debut

I know mate. Better chance of signing Stones, Pogba and Messi than Ivanovic being sold in this window. At least Mourinho has indirectly singled him out a bit after the match. It's a start!

[The Chels 2,502]

Are there additional quotes to go with this or is just typical Sky hyperbole and a melodramatic interpretation of what Mourinho said earlier?

He might drop Ivanovic (assuming it is him Jose was referring to) for 1 match but that doesn't mean he's out of the first team or leaving anytime soon, sadly.

[The Skipper 20,609]

A lot of players out of form and not performing. One man we have to look at. Come on Jose, fix it up. This is not good enough at all.

[Jase 43,479]

Are there additional quotes to go with this or is just typical Sky hyperbole and a melodramatic interpretation of what Mourinho said earlier?

He might drop Ivanovic (assuming it is him Jose was referring to) for 1 match but that doesn't mean he's out of the first team or leaving anytime soon, sadly.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9972045/jose-mourinho-warns-chelsea-players-to-improve-or-risk-sack?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[11Drogba 2,000]

The board chose the wrong coach for long term success and Mourinho came at the wrong time. He should have waited until we have the new stadium ready. I see a lot of troubles ahead of us.