Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Calling the COC semis against Liverpool an impressive performance is a massive overstatement. They outplayed us especially in that first half, we ended the game strongly but we didn't score a single goal from open play in over 200 minutes.Again, I'm struggling to think of a complete 90 minute performance we've had in the big games this season. Even the 3-0 against Spurs was extremely fortunate considering they thoroughly dominated us in the opening 15-20 minutes before crumbling in typical Tottenham fashion. edetarod and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I will give Jose credit for the introduction of Zouma. Technically, Zouma isn't even really a youngster considering the amount of experience he's already racked up at just 20 but still it was a ballsy move that's atypical of his entire managerial career. Kudos to him. Lets hope our actual products also get chances as well. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My friend says bus parking is Chelsea DNA like Barcelona have Possesion DNA. He says its the identity of the club, do u agree?No. We played always attacking football in every game in Zola's time. What we lacked was a wealthy owner to take us to the next level. We also pretty attack minded in the 70's as well, so I hear. We played attacking football under Ancelotti. Under him, I believe we played the most complete football in the Abramovich era, but the team Mourinho built was already starting to weaken badly in the 2011 season. I remember complete performances like this one, were we went to difficult grounds and imposed our game on teams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GprcTAFLQCw Then all of a sudden, instead of backing him with the responsibility of building his own team, Abramovich sacked him. That was Roman's biggest mistake ever. He sacked the best manager we've ever had aside from Vialli. I credit Mourinho a lot with team building, resiliance and with the winning mentality he instilled in Chelsea. He built our first world class team, that team was built for him and built in his image. That team wasn't designed to play beautiful football, but to overpower teams. And when Mourinho faced a manager that could be as pragmatic as he was in Benitez, he failed. Twice. I also credit Mourinho with building this amazing team. In conjunction with Emenalo and our scouts, that's the best thing he's done since he returned. But you just get the feeling this team is not built in his image. His tactical strength is in organizing defenses and counter attacking, not in playing possession football and designing sophisticated attacks. It's been that way all his career and he is not as complete tactically as he'll like himself to be advertised. This team was built by Abramovich for Guardiola and Guardiola snubbed him and chose Bayern. Mourinho wasn't even the 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice because of his tactics and controversial nature. It's obvious our wealthy benefactor wants this team to play attacking football, bring through our own youth and still win titles. People seem to forget that his opinion on things also counts. Muzchap and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't think the way we played in the second half is a consequence of the manager, it comes down to not having any real way to inject pace to change the game. IThe guys were tired today anyone who has watched more than 5 football matches could see that. It absolutely is, since it was basically from minute 1 of the 2nd half and since we actually played our best football in the last 10 mins of the 1st half. Human physiology suggests you're more likely to be tired in the closing stages of the 1st than in the opening stages of the 2nd half. Mourinho has no excuses. I sense some arrogance in your second sentence, which isn't surprising coming from you. Yet it is deeply misplaced and you fail to sense the irony of your post. Courtois all of a sudden hitting long balls with 100% alacrity, our defenders not even attempting to play from the back anymore, regardless of limitations. In clear contrast to the 1st half. If you think that wasn't Mourinho, then well.... wow. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 He did everything what he could, he was all passion tonight. Glad we have him. We love you Mourinho.Yes, his antics on the touchline are more entertaining than his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My friend says bus parking is Chelsea DNA like Barcelona have Possesion DNA. He says its the identity of the club, do u agree?Your friend is an ignorant wanker . Unless you gay dump him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes, his antics on the touchline are more entertaining than his team. There is a simple solution to your problem . Find another team to follow. Let me know who decided to favour with your support kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 There is a simple solution to your problem . Find another team to follow. Let me know who decided to favour with your supportThat's not a solution because my problem is not with Chelsea. I'm merely highlighting the tactical limitations of our manager. Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world, but believe or not, he has his problems, as was evidenced in the 2nd half of this game and several other big games this season and last season. Big games that cost us titles. To question Mourinho is not to question Chelsea Football club, Zolayes. You're better than this, Zolayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's not a solution because my problem is not with Chelsea. I'm merely highlighting the tactical limitations of our manager. Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world, but believe or not, he has his problems, as was evidenced in the 2nd half of this game and several other big games this season and last season. Big games that cost us titles. To question Mourinho is not to question Chelsea Football club, Zolayes. You're better than this, Zolayes.yes I am better than those who want everything on a plate .i was a supporter when we were crap and got hammered in the second division. Without Cesc and Diego. It was an excellent result and the END. Justified the MEANS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Calling the COC semis against Liverpool an impressive performance is a massive overstatement. They outplayed us especially in that first half, we ended the game strongly but we didn't score a single goal from open play in over 200 minutes.Again, I'm struggling to think of a complete 90 minute performance we've had in the big games this season. Even the 3-0 against Spurs was extremely fortunate considering they thoroughly dominated us in the opening 15-20 minutes before crumbling in typical Tottenham fashion.I haven't been following the discussion here, but wasn't the goal today from open play? What exactly are you talking about with the 200 minutes? I remember most of our goals against big team to be from open play. Muzchap and Bluelsthecolour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! GodZola 630 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 Let's just play open expansive football with 3 expeperienced players out & the rest that have played 120 minute's against our main rivals that have a quality about them which so happens to have made them champions 2 of the last 3 seasons?Good grief it is nonsensical & mindbuumbing reading some of the shit written on here. bababoom, BlueLion., Madmax and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! strong centreback 157 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 It absolutely is, since it was basically from minute 1 of the 2nd half and since we actually played our best football in the last 10 mins of the 1st half. Human physiology suggests you're more likely to be tired in the closing stages of the 1st than in the opening stages of the 2nd half. Mourinho has no excuses. I sense some arrogance in your second sentence, which isn't surprising coming from you. Yet it is deeply misplaced and you fail to sense the irony of your post. Courtois all of a sudden hitting long balls with 100% alacrity, our defenders not even attempting to play from the back anymore, regardless of limitations. In clear contrast to the 1st half. If you think that wasn't Mourinho, then well.... wow. What a load of bollocks that is, your body is more likely to be tired for the second half after putting in 45 minutes when you are already not 100% hence the lack of intensity in the second half all due to the 120 minutes in the liverpool game, coupled with city having a week off amplifing it even more.Mentally they were strong, otherwise we couldnt of got a draw whilst sustaining that amount of pressure for long periods. Liquidator, Madmax, bababoom and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 Not that I can remember but allowing even one dangerous opportunity in the last few minutes (against that awful Pool side) is one too many. I agree that you can definitely control the game without possession but that tends to entail having a good defensive shape and looking like not conceding. In the last part of the game I remember us giving the ball away in dangerous positions and we were trying but failing to get out of our own half. Lucky that Liverpool were playing so badly and even then we should have conceded a penalty. If that Liverpool game is the only example of a big away game where you could argue that we had control and attacking/defensive balance (at times) then that does highlight my point.You guys need to give more credit to the opposition. Too many times I come here and read about how shitty teams are and why we should be battering them. They have ambitions and objectives too! Its not a bunch of pylons we're up against. That is such a ridiculous statement, one chance is one too many. BlueLion., Muzchap, Blue Armour and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 yes I am better than those who want everything on a plate .i was a supporter when we were crap and got hammered in the second division. Without Cesc and Diego. It was an excellent result and the END. Justified the MEANS That's besides the point, Mr. Zolayes. First and foremost, I want what's best for my football club. If I feel the manager continues to employ the exact same tactics in the big matches, the same tactics that cost us valuable points in the league, away to United and Arsenal and cost us in the CL vs Atletico eventually, I have to question him, the same way I question players I feel aren't pulling their weight (Willian) or aren't good enough (Schurrle). Support the manager, yes, but if I feel he deserves to be criticized, then I'll do just that, despite others making excuses for him or just following him blindly. Being a Chelsea fan is first and foremost looking after the best interests of the club before any player or manager or even before Roman Abramovich, Zolayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 Seriously? I cannot believe the bollox I'm reading on here.We've had a tough gruelling run of games, we've been given no quarter anywhere on the pitch and off it. And yet we still march on !This is called a 'Winners' mentality - anything other than a LOSS is acceptable. Our team has shipped the most goals in Jan - outside of Millwall and other relegation battlers - playing Open football is suicide. You have to have a solid foundation at the back and then attack!Look at Liverpool last season! Just ONE defensive minded game would have seen them Champions - but because their manager is a KNOB they blew it! They know it, he knows it - that chance ain't coming around again soon! Then to top it off - we do them in the CoC... So now we've fucked their title and the chance of Wembley.Yes I was pissed off at our performances - but Loserpool gave everything and still weren't good enough - WHY? Because the team spirit and mental 'winners' mentality is slowly starting to kick in. Sure we have had wobbles - but last season and the season before we'd have lost against Loserpool and City. A win against the Villa - will get everybody happy! Please let's not be fickle. I know I have complained - but I'm done with that now - I demanded a winning mentality and I'm seeing green shoots of progress. I don't care how we win this season, but WINNING is all that counts! Once we have won - then we can tinker with our attacking focus, but let's get across the line first and forge that winning mentality and move on to dominate. A new signing will also freshen up the place and lift the other players.Now is time for a well earned rest, re-group and go again! Ryan Fong, Barbara, Chelsea Legend 11 and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's not a solution because my problem is not with Chelsea. I'm merely highlighting the tactical limitations of our manager. Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world, but believe or not, he has his problems, as was evidenced in the 2nd half of this game and several other big games this season and last season. Big games that cost us titles. To question Mourinho is not to question Chelsea Football club, Zolayes. You're better than this, Zolayes. Who would you rather have? The second half of this game came down to the fact we had no bench! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?!!?! So frustrating. kellzfresh and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 What a load of bollocks that is, your body is more likely to be tired for the second half after putting in 45 minutes when you are already not 100% hence the lack of intensity in the second half all due to the 120 minutes in the liverpool game, coupled with city having a week off amplifing it even more.Mentally they were strong, otherwise we couldnt of got a draw whilst sustaining that amount of pressure for long periods.You didn't read what I typed. I said the dying minutes of the 1st half was our best period of the game and that we immediately went defensive from minute 1 of the 2nd half. Are you saying players have more energy in the dying stages of the 1st half than in the first few minutes of the second? wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's besides the point, Mr. Zolayes. First and foremost, I want what's best for my football club. If I feel the manager continues to employ the exact same tactics in the big matches, the same tactics that cost us valuable points in the league, away to United and Arsenal and cost us in the CL vs Atletico eventually, I have to question him, the same way I question players I feel aren't pulling their weight (Willian) or aren't good enough (Schurrle). Support the manager, yes, but if I feel he deserves to be criticized, then I'll do just that, despite others making excuses for him or just following him blindly. Being a Chelsea fan is first and foremost looking after the best interests of the club before any player or manager or even before Roman Abramovich, Zolayes.You can say what you want about Willian - but that lad GIVES 100% every game! He's a warrior and I respect him for it.Yes he could score more, yes he could dribble better - but the guy runs his heart out every game for us! As for costing us valuable points - not one big team has profited from us this season! GodZola, Madmax, Chelsea Legend 11 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 You can say what you want about Willian - but that lad GIVES 100% every game! He's a warrior and I respect him for it.Yes he could score more, yes he could dribble better - but the guy runs his heart out every game for us!As for costing us valuable points - not one big team has profited from us this season!That seems to be lost on the peanut gallery for some reason. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! supporter 3,088 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 Many envious laugh of usThey talk about us as "the team of the bus" But I`m sure that ALL of them would like to see their team in the TOP OF THE LEAGUE! + 5!Envious and Cheap philosophers ... CHELSEA COMMANDS! Regards to ALL Blues Supporters Madmax, Muzchap, Barbara and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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