🇧🇷 Nathan

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

It's quite funny to see all this kind of reaction, while 10 years ago we will be excited like a little girl got a new doll. How the time has changed.

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

So, another Piazon then....

[Jusek 2,031]

Another Brazilian with English name.

[Billy. 2,742]

wonder if he will be anygood in the Dutch league

[Barbara 15,149]

As I said in the speculation thread, I think he's better than Piazon. I never got the Piazon thing. But we need to take into consideration his age. At 19 we could say he's going to be the next best thing in football or the biggest flop of all. It's hard to say because it could go both ways. He isn't in the Hazard category of players (who is anyway? If players like Hazard were easy to find, they wouldn't be so expensive, they're rare), but he's decent. I rate him somewhere between Oscar and Willian, but as I just said, predicting how he'll develop is going to be hard. In Brazil those kids with some talent are promoted to the first team way too soon because the clubs need to make money and that affects their development - especially tactically - in a negative way. Maybe that's why I'm never in a rush to promote youth and I don't mind Mourinho's approach at all. Here is quite the opposite and I've seen way too many kids cracking with the pressure, wasting their talent, being moved to position that their teams need and that aren't the best for them, not to say they bypass some very important steps of development such as discipline, tactical awareness, time to mature, physical conditioning (many times they're Neymar-Oscar alike because they haven't developed physically yet before being subjected to a lot of burning calories routines instead of working on growing and getting stronger) and many others.

All that said, I don't expect him to play for us any time soon - and maybe he'll never do it, but a friend of mine worked at Atletico Paranaense until a few months ago and have seen the kid on a daily basis for years. There have been some brawl between him and the club and he left in bad terms, but despite of that he assured me he's very good, future Brazil NT material because of his level headed way of taking things, his focus as well as his talent (which according to him hasn't been fully exposed yet because some Mosquito guy also from Atletico academy took the spot light and the manager's preference, leaving Nathan as a second fiddle). I totally trust his assessment - especially because we agree about most of our views in football - and I did some research watching some of his matches.

Maybe he ends up being the next Piazon as many are implying, I wouldn't bet on it though. Also Nathan (or Natan, or Natã) is a fairly common name in Brazil, it's biblical and it's been a trend here for some time to add 'h' to names. The pronunciation is completely different from English, so like Oscar, people will call him by the English version, but it's a complete different way in Brazil.

It's Philippe's (Coutinho) that is uncommon around here as we say Felipe or Filipe (such as Luís). Oscar is also quite normal. Robert (the Kenedy guy prospect who my friends - including a Fluminense supporter tell me is a farce), Wallace among others are the odd ones.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Welcome to Marseille :blue scalf:

There is no way he would get a game there.

[CeleryFC 373]

What is the likeliness of him getting a work permit?

[Mechromancer 262]

Well, i don't know too much about the guy. But, in the comps, at least, I can feel some Kaka vibes. In the style of play, I mean. Oscar looks like Kaka, but he is another type of player.

[Parky 739]

According to the Guardian:

"Chelsea have announced the signing of the Brazilian midfielder Nathan from Atlético Paranaense. The 19-year-old will be loaned out overseas as he does not qualify for a work permit."

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

He might not be a star here, but I think he'll do better than Piazon simply because he looks to be a better physical specimen. Piazon has ability but dude is so lightweight I never thought he'd ever make a career at Chelsea.

[Strike 7,491]

Nobody has seen him play. Just wait and watch how he plays before the Piazon comparisons

[Pizy 18,927]

Doubt we'll ever even see him in a Chelsea first team shirt.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Stock them up like pigs, feed them then sell. Rinse and repeat=profit. The Chelsea transfer way I like this, at least the players are paid good money to at least be set for life even if their career fail.

[LemmeBorrowThat 124]

Maybe one day he might actually see the field here.

One of these players gotta end the buy/loan/sell cycle eventually lol

[The Skipper 20,609]

He does remind me a lot of Kaka, whether he has the same level of ability? Doubt it, but we'll see.

[Tomo 21,751]

Maybe one day he might actually see the field here.

One of these players gotta end the buy/loan/sell cycle eventually lol

Ummmmm Tibo already has.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

He's either going to be good enough to play for us or he's not going to be good enough to play for us.

[Clockwork 1,794]

He does remind me a lot of Kaka, whether he has the same level of ability? Doubt it, but we'll see.

I don't see it. Kaka was a freak of nature, his acceleration/speed was uncanny for a player with his technique.

Coutinho is much better comparison.

As long as he ain't the next Oscar

Damn the hate Oscar gets on this forum from some is ridiculous, you must be a Willian fanboy.

Not that i think that highly of Oscar, but surely it doesn't take that much of a brain to realize that buying a player for 3m and turning into 25m+ is quite fantastic.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

If he can't get a work permit can he do preseason with us the way Bertrand Traore did?

[Viper22 2,418]

If he can't get a work permit can he do preseason with us the way Bertrand Traore did?

Unless i'm mistaken I thought Traore was on trial with us when he played for us in preseason against that Singha All Stars team?

His transfer was an odd one though, no idea what went on tbh.