Juan Cuadrado

[dee25 1,044]

There have been no reliable sources stating that we are looking to pay over 20M for Douglas Costa. The impression I've been getting is that we are hoping to get him for around 15-20M. If we move Salah on (now or in the near future) we will be looking to get 7-13M for him; that will cover around half of the Douglas transfer fee.

And I simply don't get this 'not all that good' argument that I see being trotted out again and again. Douglas Costa will likely be 5TH CHOICE. Too many people on here seem to think that we will genuinely be able to have a roster full of world-class/near-world-class AMs, and that two of these players are going to be satisfied with spending most of their time on the bench. This will never happen; even BAYERN and REAL have been unable to make such a situation work.

Ideally, that 5th AM spot could be occupied by one of our youth players, but this seems unlikely to happen at the moment. This is possibly because Mourinho doesn't trust them yet, and/or possibly because Mourinho feels that the lack of meaningful game-time that they will receive as 5th choice will stall their potential development. Either way, we may soon find ourselves one AM short, and we will need to bring in a replacement (for Salah) who is actually trusted enough by Mourinho to fulfil the squad role that they have been brought in to play, and so does not spend all of their time either on the bench or out of the squad completely.

Even for 15-20M, there's something very unsettling to me about paying that amount of money for a player who hasn't managed to consistently perform well in the Ukrainian league. From what I've read he's shown flashes of quality but generally hasn't impressed all that much but you're telling me that he's going to come to the premier league, in the middle of the season, to a more disciplined system than he's used to and with less playing time than he's used to and suddenly be able to make a big enough impact? Mata, KDB, Moses, Salah, Schurrle - all have struggled to impress but somehow a 24 yr old from the Ukrainian league who isn't even the best player in his team will come in the middle of the season and do better than all those players? It just seems like fantasy thinking.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

No, this picture is of a travel for a Colombian team convocatory, because the other guy (Black shirt and jean) is Carlos Carbonero, another Colombian player than plays in Italy.

Maybe we're signing both

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

If He fulfills most people's suspicion/prediction and turns out to be just another energetic winger with little goal threat aka another Willian, someone at the club, be it Jose or emenalo will have some questions to answer. We don't have the luxury of making bad buys or unneccessary buys anymore. we have enough energy on the wing already, we need genuine quality/end prodcut.

What are you talking about? You're not going to get a goal scoring winger, and when I say goalscoring I mean around 15, who works hard tracking back and plays our style for under £30-35m. And yes we do have that luxury! Basically what's being done here is we are shuffling the decks to look for chemistry and fit. Schurrle hasn't worked and neither had salah. The move once its been determined they aren't working or aren't happy is to find players within their price range who fit our style and hope they blend with the team. What you're advocating is we spend more money in wages and fee and hope whoever comes in is better since we paid more. That's not gonna happen. Cuadrado is replacing schurrle not willian. He is being brought in to challenge willian.

[lionsden 4,689]

This is from the summer dude.

No, this picture is of a travel for a Colombian team convocatory, because the other guy (Black shirt and jean) is Carlos Carbonero, another Colombian player than plays in Italy.

Thank God. I'm hoping this deal collapses just as I did with the Hulk, paulinho and Guarin ones.

[LondonsFinest 692]

In today's market we are getting him for a reasonable price and after all the great transfers of the summer, people shouldn't really complain about this one. Have your doubts, but saying that Jose has to answer for a transfer, IF it goes bad, seems silly to me.

[Pizy 18,864]

Some people here are acting like we're spending Di Maria type money on him. FFS, £25m for someone like him is great. Especially considering he was valued at a much higher price in the summer and had huge clubs after him.

[lionsden 4,689]

What are you talking about? You're not going to get a goal scoring winger, and when I say goalscoring I mean around 15, who works hard tracking back and plays our style for under £30-35m. And yes we do have that luxury! Basically what's being done here is we are shuffling the decks to look for chemistry and fit. Schurrle hasn't worked and neither had salah. The move once its been determined they aren't working or aren't happy is to find players within their price range who fit our style and hope they blend with the team. What you're advocating is we spend more money in wages and fee and hope whoever comes in is better since we paid more. That's not gonna happen. Cuadrado is replacing schurrle not willian. He is being brought in to challenge willian.

So you want us to spend 35m euros on a squad player?

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11377243/Chelsea-transfer-news-Andre-Schurrle-asks-club-to-lower-asking-price-to-facilitate-move-back-to-Germany.html

I don't get that. If we have already agreed the fee and terms with Fiorentina (at least according to sources from Italy), then are we still playing hardball with Wolfsburg and even Dortmund over Schurrle? Seems like we're refusing to accept anything less than 25m pounds.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I dont think its a 'great' price, but its ok. I would rate him at 27-30 million Euros.

[lionsden 4,689]

26m pounds is a decent price considering that Willian was 30m.

If we applied that logic, every transfer will seem reasonable and justifable. If andy carroll was worth £35m then James is worth £63m and so on. Whatever happened to making shrewed and sensible signings like the Costa and fabregas ones. Just because we overpayed for willian doesn't make it OK to overpay for Cuadrado.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So you want us to spend 35m euros on a squad player?

What kind of squad player do you want for a top side in the world? Salah?

[milka 3,390]

Mediaset report Chelsea and #Fiorentina agreement for Cuadrado is €30m plus bonuses. Player could fly from Florence to London tonight for a medical. #CFC

Jose Mourinho is pressing for Juan Cuadrado to make his debut against Manchester City (Corriere dello Sport)

[Azul 1,615]

If we applied that logic, every transfer will seem reasonable and justifable. If andy carroll was worth £35m then James is worth £63m and so on. Whatever happened to making shrewed and sensible signings like the Costa and fabregas ones. Just because we overpayed for willian doesn't make it OK to overpay for Cuadrado.

He's better than Willian and he is Willians replacement, what you're talking about is irrelevant. By the way have you actually seen Cuadrado play? He was a beast in the WC and he has been beasting in the Italian league aswell.

[Rekin 835]

So you want us to spend 35m euros on a squad player?

Schurrle contributes very little to the team. He gets the odd goal here and there which is great, but he often take shots from futile positions or take other poor decisions. If we can get a player that challenges Willian based on merit throughout the season that it is by itself an upgrade. Especially when it seems that we are basically swapping Schurrle for Cuadrado.

If he actually does a job which is good enough to replace Willian then even better.

Being able to throw in one of Cuadrado/Willian when chasing/defending a result is a scenario many coaches would dream about.

[Azul 1,615]

That moment when people have their critics about a player and they have not even seen him play.