BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 How come he didnt play tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epikur 34 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I reckon we would be a better side with Luis and Azpi as our full backs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Should have been brought on to create width yesterday when it became clear Sunderland were gonna park the bus, and Ivanovic would be pegged back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,913 Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 30, 2014 Should be starting EVERY match against smaller sides. He and Schürrle. Azpi and Willian are totally pointless against them. The Chels, Barbara, lucio and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Should be starting EVERY match against smaller sides. He and Schürrle. Azpi and Willian are totally pointless against them.Agree about Luis, but I would swap Schurrle and Willian. Willian does help against the smaller sides, and he was easily one of our better attackers last night. Schurrle on the other hand, is good when he runs into space and that's why he's done well against the likes of Bayern and City. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Should be starting EVERY match against smaller sides. He and Schürrle. Azpi and Willian are totally pointless against them.To be fair, Dave would be useful on the right wing. In his first season he had seven assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,913 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 To be fair, Dave would be useful on the right wing. In his first season he had seven assists.If he were playing on his correct side.I'd absolutely love to see how we'd look at least once or twice this season with Filipe and Azpi as our two fullbacks. nyikolajevics, The Chels and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can understand that Jose likes Azpi and considers him first-choice LB - I don't agree but I get it. What I don't understand, however, is Azpi starting 3 games in 8 days when we have a player of Luis' calibre fit and available for selection. The only way this transfer would have made sense is if Luis became our first-choice LB but he's not (he hasn't even been given an opportunity to try to settle down with a run of games). Mourinho spent 16m on a 29-year-old as a backup and that is a waste of resources. I thought we stopped making pointless transfers but clearly I was wrong about that. Stats, Madmax, LDN Blue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The only way this transfer would have made sense is if Luis became our first-choice LB but he's not (he hasn't even been given an opportunity to try to settle down with a run of games). Mourinho spent 16m on a 29-year-old as a backup and that is a waste of resources. I thought we stopped making pointless transfers but clearly I was wrong about that.I have already said it in the Azpi thread but I do think part of Mourinho's reasoning in buying Luis was to weaken Atletico, as they are (still) a big obstacle in the way of CL glory and Luis was a huge player for them. Otherwise would he really have spent £16m on a 29-year-old LB for back-up when he goes on about FFP so much? I feel really sorry for him as he is IMO our best FB and if he were stil at Atleti he'd be playing against the likes of Bale and Messi instead of whoever it is that plays RW for Bolton/Shrewsbury/Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The big thing is if he starts midweek. He pretty much has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I have already said it in the Azpi thread but I do think part of Mourinho's reasoning in buying Luis was to weaken Atletico, as they are (still) a big obstacle in the way of CL glory and Luis was a huge player for them. Otherwise would he really have spent £16m on a 29-year-old LB for back-up when he goes on about FFP so much? I feel really sorry for him as he is IMO our best FB and if he were stil at Atleti he'd be playing against the likes of Bale and Messi instead of whoever it is that plays RW for Bolton/Shrewsbury/Derby.Atletico are still one of the hardest teams to beat. Mourinho's gonna have to do more than just sign their best players to get past that hurdle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I have already said it in the Azpi thread but I do think part of Mourinho's reasoning in buying Luis was to weaken Atletico, as they are (still) a big obstacle in the way of CL glory and Luis was a huge player for them. Otherwise would he really have spent £16m on a 29-year-old LB for back-up when he goes on about FFP so much? I feel really sorry for him as he is IMO our best FB and if he were stil at Atleti he'd be playing against the likes of Bale and Messi instead of whoever it is that plays RW for Bolton/Shrewsbury/Derby.I don't share this view.. It's a bit of strange conclusion to come to tbh. Mourinho's game is to make Chelsea stronger than the current opposition, he's not spiteful enough to sign just for the sake of weakening another side. We signed Letico players to improve us, not really to weaken them. Just like we did to Porto when Mourinho first arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,913 Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 30, 2014 Feel sorry for him, honestly. He was so excited when he signed for us and it seemed like a dream come true. Obviously he's going to be getting more games as the season goes on (right? RIGHT!?) but for the best all around fullback last season to be sitting on the bench when he could be starting and playing at a world class level for just about any club in the world is hard to watch.Surely he wouldn't have joined if he knew it would be like this? As good as Iva has been I'd still rather see Azpi on the right where he'd not only be more comfortable defensively, but he'd also be much more useful going forward where he's actually underrated. Luis should be nailed on first choice LB like I and most here assumed he'd be when we signed him. The few times he has played we've seen what he's capable of. Just can't see ANY of the sides outside of the big boys being able to handle both he and Hazard down that left side. That and he can beat a marker with his dribble and accurately cross unlike either of Azpi and Iva. iseah100, zolayes, EMK and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Such a shame, our best fullback can't even play. If he doesn't play on Wednesday something is seriously wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 he's not spiteful enough to sign just for the sake of weakening another side. I'm not saying that's the only reason but it could well have been part of the allure in signing him. Atletico are the only serious CL contender we can actually weaken with our fiancial power and as Paul Clement said Luis was arguably their most consistent and best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can understand that Jose likes Azpi and considers him first-choice LB - I don't agree but I get it. What I don't understand, however, is Azpi starting 3 games in 8 days when we have a player of Luis' calibre fit and available for selection. The only way this transfer would have made sense is if Luis became our first-choice LB but he's not (he hasn't even been given an opportunity to try to settle down with a run of games). Mourinho spent 16m on a 29-year-old as a backup and that is a waste of resources. I thought we stopped making pointless transfers but clearly I was wrong about that.Let's not kid ourselves, Luis was signed to be first choice but he has yet to perform at the level required to get that spot. In the matches he's played in the PL he's looked nowhere near as solid as Azpi and is bullied off the ball too easily. He's obviously struggling with the physicality of the league which is even obvious in what he says. I've heard him being asked several times about the difference between Spain and England and three of the answers that stuck with me are: "the physicality and intensity", "in England the players just don't give up" and "here the refs don't blow fouls that given in Spain." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Let's not kid ourselves, Luis was signed to be first choice but he has yet to perform at the level required to get that spot. In the matches he's played in the PL he's looked nowhere near as solid as Azpi and is bullied off the ball too easily. He's obviously struggling with the physicality of the league which is even obvious in what he says. I've heard him being asked several times about the difference between Spain and England and three of the answers that stuck with me are: "the physicality and intensity", "in England the players just don't give up" and "here the refs don't blow fouls that given in Spain."Against Sunderland he could have handled it, they aren't great offensively. He has been great when he plays in the CL, he has to play to adjust to the PL, he's good enough to be given that opportunity. Belgiannutt, Laugh1ngMan, Pizy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted November 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted November 30, 2014 Let's not kid ourselves, Luis was signed to be first choice but he has yet to perform at the level required to get that spot. In the matches he's played in the PL he's looked nowhere near as solid as Azpi and is bullied off the ball too easily. He's obviously struggling with the physicality of the league which is even obvious in what he says. I've heard him being asked several times about the difference between Spain and England and three of the answers that stuck with me are: "the physicality and intensity", "in England the players just don't give up" and "here the refs don't blow fouls that given in Spain."That's fine but how will he ever adjust if he isn't given the opportunity to? The Chels, Belgiannutt, The Skipper and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Against Sunderland he could have handled it, they aren't great offensively. He has been great when he plays in the CL, he has to play to adjust to the PL, he's good enough to be given that opportunity.Jose doesn't rotate back four. And we know he can play in the CL, it's the PL he's struggling with.That's fine but how will he ever adjust if he isn't given the opportunity to?Unless you're Torres, no one is given the opportunity to adjust at Chelsea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Think he has been signed to be a sub by Jose, I mean you don't think Jose will drop Dave or Iva, his 2 favorite defenders which he heaps praises on recently? Hope he is patience though and doesn't kick up a fuss by next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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