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On 13/09/2024 at 00:44, Vesper said:

Claims made that Chelsea will not be allowed to play in Europe next season

https://Chelsea.news/2024/09/claims-made-that-Chelsea-will-not-be-allowed-to-play-in-europe-next-season/

Some pretty big claims have been made this week suggesting that UEFA will not allow Chelsea to play in Europe next season in what would be a disaster for the club.

There is a lot going on right now in terms of Financial Fair Play Rules and Profit and Sustainability Rules, and clubs are doing all they can to try and stay in line with all of these rules.

Chelsea have sold Hotels between themselves in order to make profits on the books to stay in line with PSR, but apparently these rules only wash with the Premier League, and UEFA will take a different stance on it and not let the Hotels count as part of the profit margins for the club, meaning they will fail FFP.

That is at least according to Everton’s former chief executive Keith Wyness, who let’s face it, seems to be talking about Chelsea every single week and has a real issue with them!

Speaking on the new edition of Football Insider’s Inside Track podcast, the 66-year-old – who served as CEO at Goodison Park between 2004 and 2009 and now runs a football consultancy advising elite clubs – suggested such a ban would have devastating consequences financially for the Blues.

UEFA has reportedly confirmed clubs will not be permitted to register earnings from selling assets to sister companies.

Wyness told Football Insider‘s Insider Track podcast: “It was almost a year before we heard that this hotel deal has been approved.

“We still haven’t had the full details about whether the valuation of those hotels has been accepted as fair market value.

“But for Europe next season – Chelsea won’t be able to qualify.

“Uefa will not allow these hotel deals to count, and I believe they will breach the rules.”

Wow if true! And not only financial.

Imagine these players watching CL on their telly once again, but now without even the possibility of qualifying. 

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52 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Wow if true! And not only financial.

Imagine these players watching CL on their telly once again, but now without even the possibility of qualifying. 

It feels like this club is soo fucked.

[Reddish-Blue 2,344]

2 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Wow if true! And not only financial.

Imagine these players watching CL on their telly once again, but now without even the possibility of qualifying. 

Didn't UEFA also stop the Todibo transfer to United as Ratcliffe had a controlling in both clubs and they were both in European competitions this season. 

Actually sounds like a good thing as the club will be punished for wasting ridiculous money on players that weren't worth it (Mudryk, Fofana, Cucurella, Enzo, Caicedo). 

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2 hours ago, DDA said:

It feels like this club is soo fucked.

Bc it is. The new ownership has been a complete mess from start to finish. We will not win a PL/CL with them 
It has been evident after hiring clueless potter and their 2nd transfer window latest. 
but there is some blessing in disguise. Glory hunters will stop caring about the club and also leave this forum. The board will stop with their scattergun transfer policy so there will be some stability on the personell side. Third, only the players who truly want to be here will stay. As we have more than enough on long term contracts plus academy graduates coming through this might be enough to maintain our current mid table position for the foreseeable future 

Edited September 18 by Magic Lamps

[milka 3,344]

Don't worry some say everything is fine Clownlake knows what they are doing no matter that they have no idea of football . But now  some people start to wake up and see the truth  this is not Chelsea.

Edited September 18 by milka

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3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

clueless potter

The wannabe wizard may be Roma bound.

Or perhaps it will be Tuchel.

Ex Chels all over the place, lol.

 

[NikkiCFC 7,941]

All this doom and gloom over some nonsense article 🙄 

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11 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Wow if true! And not only financial.

Imagine these players watching CL on their telly once again, but now without even the possibility of qualifying. 

10 hours ago, DDA said:

It feels like this club is soo fucked.

Lol, another known Chelsea hater says everything is doom and gloom and we are 100% getting banned, club due to be dissolved, there's someone saying it every week for years and years

Not only he says we are definitely in breach of the rules (which he cannot know) but also what our punishment would be if we are (which he also cannot know). Of course he assumes absolute worst in both cases

Typical sensationalist nonsense.

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7 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

Lol, another known Chelsea hater says everything is doom and gloom and we are 100% getting banned, club due to be dissolved, there's someone saying it every week for years and years

Not only he says we are definitely in breach of the rules (which he cannot know) but also what our punishment would be if we are (which he also cannot know). Of course he assumes absolute worst in both cases

Typical sensationalist nonsense.

Who said that?
Do people intentionally ignore the conditionals when reading text? "if true"

Is it nonsensical? The club is operating very close to the FA limits, which the reported hotel sales suggest. Is it completely implausible that this will pose a problem under different more strict rules? not to me at least.

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19 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Who said that?
Do people intentionally ignore the conditionals when reading text? "if true"

Is it nonsensical? The club is operating very close to the FA limits, which the reported hotel sales suggest. Is it completely implausible that this will pose a problem under different more strict rules? not to me at least.

Of course it is not implausible, but Keith Wyness states it as a fact that we have breached the rules and that we are getting banned. The rules are extraordinarily complicated and to know if you are in breach and to what extent you need to work at the football club and understand how they are doing the accounting. Our situation is unbelievably complicated for loads of reasons including the forced takeover due to Government sanctions, and many other factors - it is completely impossible to know what is going to happen and anyone that says otherwise obviously has an agenda and has a lack of interest in honesty.

What do know is so far the owners have been fantastic at finding a way to stay within the rules and have clearly thought deeply with the best advisors on how to run the club from a financial and accounting perspective.

Edited September 18 by Mhsc

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4 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

Of course it is not implausible, but Keith Wyness states it as a fact that we have breached the rules and that we are getting banned. The rules are extraordinarily complicated and to know if you are in breach and to what extent you need to work at the football club and understand how they are doing the accounting. Our situation is unbelievably complicated for loads of reasons including the forced takeover due to Government sanctions, and many other factors - it is completely impossible to know what is going to happen and anyone that says otherwise obviously has an agenda and has a lack of interest in honesty.

What do know is so far the owners have been fantastic at finding a way to stay within the rules and have clearly thought deeply with the best advisors on how to run the club from a financial and accounting perspective.

We don't know that. The investigations take some time.
Chelsea's business has been conspicuous, which does suggest they are taking a conservative approach to me at least.

Still, I don't even want to go in the merit of the matter here, but rather whether there is a reason to be worried or not; and for me there is.

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Last season we got sponsor on 30th September. This time?

[Blue Armour 4,278]

On 18/09/2024 at 10:04, Mhsc said:

 

What do know is so far the owners have been fantastic at finding a way to stay within the rules and have clearly thought deeply with the best advisors on how to run the club from a financial and accounting perspective.

'Fantastic' is an exaggeration to say the least.

If they were fantastic, they would have secured a consistent shirt sponsor by now.

I don't think they're fantastic.

I just hope they're adequate. Which is all that most football fans care about.

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And while some may argue that the lack of shirt sponsor is because the club couldnt find a short term partner to work with (when out of Europe), my refrain would be the same as before. Who took a top 4 team out of Europe? It wasn't the government.

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6 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

'Fantastic' is an exaggeration to say the least.

If they were fantastic, they would have secured a consistent shirt sponsor by now.

I don't think they're fantastic.

I just hope they're adequate. Which is all that most football fans care about.

I said fantastic at staying within the rules, finding loopholes, etc. Certainly they have not been fantastic overall. I would argue overall they've been pretty poor.

Edited September 21 by Mhsc

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Nice show of solidarity after the recent headlines 

 

 

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Sachin Gupta: Chelsea’s newest hire – and one of the most highly regarded analytical minds in the NBA

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5788693/2024/09/24/sachin-gupta-Chelsea-profile/

In their first public pronouncements after formally acquiring Chelsea in May 2022, Clearlake Capital co-founders Behdad Eghbali and Jose E Feliciano pledged to “expand the club’s investment across infrastructure, technology, and sports science to support the incredible Chelsea football and commercial teams — all with the goal of leveraging this growth to fuel even more on-pitch success”.

On-pitch success remains an aspiration rather than an achievement for the talented young squad showing fresh promise under head coach Enzo Maresca. But the investment that Eghbali and Feliciano promised is ongoing, undeniable and not limited to the frenetic transfer activity that has dominated headlines.

A key element of Clearlake’s plan from the outset was to dramatically improve the quality and scale of Chelsea’s data analytics to inform every aspect of the sporting operation, from performance and injury prevention to player recruitment. That push has now led them to hire Sachin Gupta, executive vice president of basketball operations for the Minnesota Timberwolves and one of the most highly regarded analytical minds in the NBA.

The upcoming recruitment of Gupta may raise a few eyebrows in the football world, but Clearlake have repeatedly shown a willingness to look outside the sport to find the individuals they believe are best qualified to drive Chelsea forward in their specialist fields. Two of the more prominent examples include Jason Gannon, former managing director of SoFi Stadium, who now serves as the club’s president and chief operating officer, and Aki Mandhar, hired from a senior executive position at The Athletic earlier this month to be the first dedicated chief executive officer of Chelsea Women.

Gupta’s challenge will be to bring his analytic and strategic expertise to football, but there can be no doubting the credentials he established as a basketball executive.

In many ways, Gupta serves as one of the faces of the changing times in the NBA over the past 15 years. His parents came to the United States from India in the 1970s and settled in Boston. Sachin is the youngest of three children and he got swept up in the fervour of a sports-mad town when he was a kid.

He went to Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) to study computer science in college, but from the beginning hoped to find a way to pair it with his love of sports as he entered the working world. He started as an engineer at ESPN, where he wrote the code for the NBA Trade Machine, a wildly popular module that allowed fans to construct trades of their own making and check to see if they met the byzantine criteria of the league’s collective bargaining agreement to make them realistic ideas.

He entered the league in the think tank that was the Houston Rockets organisation, working in a front office led by Daryl Morey, who now runs the Philadelphia 76ers. Morey ushered in a new era in the way basketball front offices were staffed and thought about the game, emphasizing analysis with deep dives into data to complement the eye test applied by more conventional scouting.

When Gupta heard Morey talk about his philosophy at a sports conference before he was hired, he said it sounded like “Moneyball” for basketball.

“Oh my God, this is it,” Gupta said to The Athletic in 2019.

Morey assembled a staff that would eventually spread around the league as teams worked to catch up to the Rockets’ way of examining the game. That included former lieutenant Sam Hinkie taking over in Philadelphia and implementing a controversial strategy that came to be known as “The Process”. It involved constructing a team aimed at landing high draft picks that could become the No. 1 star that every team needs to be a contender.

Hinkie hired Gupta as his second in command and the two set about putting teams together that lost a lot of games, traded established players for future draft picks and amassed assets. The boldness of the play earned the front office admiration from some of the more out-of-the-box thinkers in the league and derision from more conventional observers. The strategy did lead to them drafting Joel Embiid in 2014, but Sixers ownership ultimately lost patience with the long play and parted ways with Hinkie.

Gupta went on to work briefly for the Detroit Pistons and was then hired in Minnesota by Gersson Rosas, one of his confidantes from his Houston days. He has always been targeted for his creativity with trades and his expertise in building analytics departments.

In looking for a glimpse into how Gupta may integrate himself into a new club, a new country and an entirely new sport, an answer he gave in 2019 may provide an indicator. Those who are deemed to be on the analytics side of basketball are often accused of taking the human element out of sports, of ignoring personality and makeup while basing all of their evaluation on statistics and measurables. Gupta insisted that is not how he approaches the job.

“Ultimately it’s humility. I think that’s where a lot of people have issues, particularly if a new analytics person comes in guns blazing,” he said then. “This is what the numbers say. This is what the model says. You’re wrong, this is right.

“First of all, you’re not a very good analyst if you have that much confidence. The models don’t know anything about personality or fit and all that.”

The five years he spent in Minnesota were eventful. He arrived in 2019 to work with Rosas, who he got to know well when they both worked in Houston. The two set about making sweeping changes to the roster and the organisation to bring one of the league’s long-struggling franchises into competitiveness. By the middle of their first season on the job, they had traded all but two of the players they inherited from the previous regime. Rosas led a front office that hired coach Chris Finch, drafted Anthony Edwards and Jaden McDaniels, and signed Naz Reid as an undrafted free agent. The three of them comprise a major part of the core of a Wolves team that has become a contender in the Western Conference.

But two years into his tenure, Rosas started to meet resistance from inside the organisation because of his leadership style, which led to a messy exit from the team days before training camp in 2021-22. Gupta was elevated to run the team on an interim basis and he and Finch stabilised the team after the Rosas fireworks and helped the Wolves reach the play-offs for just the second time in 18 years. Gupta also beefed up the team’s analytics department, assembling one of the more robust staff in the league.

Gupta hoped to parlay that season into the full-time job, but the Timberwolves decided to go after a bigger name and lured Tim Connelly away from the Denver Nuggets to take over. Gupta remained on for the next two years and the Wolves made the play-offs both seasons. They advanced to the conference finals last season for the second time in the club’s 35-year history.

Under Connelly, Gupta remained in charge of strategy and analytics but was bumped down the organisation chart as Connelly brought in some of his people from outside. He also was in the middle of a bizarre situation last season when a former team employee pleaded guilty to unauthorized computer use when he took a hard drive from Gupta’s computer in his office.

For Gupta, joining Chelsea may be the boldest move yet in a career filled with them. He spent 18 years in the NBA, climbing from a special adviser with Houston in 2006 to the No. 1 spot in Minnesota in 2021-22. He could have stayed with the Timberwolves, where he was under contract for another season, but the opportunity to live in London with his wife, Anuja, and their young daughter, bring his analytical expertise to a prestigious club like Chelsea and tackle an entirely new sport proved too much to pass up.

The game is different, but the search for answers remains the same.

“The thing is that there’s not really a right answer,” Gupta said in an unpublished comment to The Athletic in 2019. “We’re just trying to get to the best answer. It’s not that there’s a right player to draft, a wrong player to draft. We’re trying to get there. The way I think about the world is all in probabilities. We’re trying to gain small probabilities anywhere we can.”

Clearlake will be hoping that Gupta will help give Chelsea the kind of edge that can make their promised on-pitch success a reality.

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Chelsea attempting to have football agent Saif Rubie’s legal claim resolved out of court

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5782267/2024/09/20/Chelsea-saif-rubie-marina-granovskaia/

Chelsea are attempting to have football agent Saif Rubie’s legal claim against the club resolved outside of court.

Rubie stated at the start of September he was filing a lawsuit against the Premier League club and its former director Marina Granovskaia.

The London-born agent believes he is owed money from the transfer that took Kurt Zouma from Chelsea to West Ham United in August, 2021.

Chelsea are instead attempting to get the case taken to arbitration, whereby the dispute would be resolved by a neutral third party outside of court.

The club believe the Football Association’s (FA) football agent regulations determine that such a case should be taken to arbitration.

The FA’s agent regulations state: “Disputes arising out of, or in connection with, a Representation Agreement without an international dimension shall be exclusively determined between the parties under Rule K (Arbitration) of the Rules.”

The FA’s agent regulations are binding for all “participants”. However, Rubie’s side believes Rule K does not apply because Granovskaia is no longer in football and so is not a “participant”.

Granovskaia departed Chelsea in June 2022, having worked at the club since 2003.

Rubie still believes the case should be heard in court, with his spokesperson stating: “Chelsea and Ms Granovskaia have a clear interest in preventing Mr Rubie’s claim from being heard in open court given current investigations into the club and its activities under its previous ownership.”

Rubie was found not guilty on the charge of malicious communications towards Granovskaia in April 2024 following a trial at Southwark Crown Court. The charge related to an email sent by Rubie to Granovskaia in May 2022, where the agent demanded a commission from the sale of Zouma to West Ham the previous summer.

During April’s trial, the court heard Rubie believed he acted as an intermediary on Chelsea’s behalf during the Zouma deal — and as such was due a commission on any transfer fee received above €30million (£25.6m, $32.2m). Both parties disputed the exact sum, while Granovskaia argued that Rubie never represented Chelsea, and instead sought to involve himself in the deal.

Rubie had insisted he was owed a £300,000 commission from the transfer, with the deal to bring France international Zouma to West Ham worth €33.9m.

Granovskaia’s side declined to comment when approached by The Athletic.

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