Paulinho

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Like I've said in another thread

I hope we get a proper replacement to improve the CM and not stop gap guarins. If we can't get a vidal, pogba, gundogan, modric level replacement, we should just play vanginkel and promote our youth because I'm tired of us over-paying for squad players and not first team starters.

Paulinho falls into squad level players IMO.

[Strike 7,527]

Honestly it seems like the same 6 or 7 faces are constantly popping up to deride anything the club does. This is not a ball-tingler of a deal and I don't think anyone is saying it is, but it seems like plenty of us have enough faith in the club to simply wait and see what happens here. Any transfer fees at this point are purely speculative as well so it's impossible to tell exactly what type of value we'd be getting.

Remember when the Matic deal was first being mooted - fees of €40 million were being chucked around. Despite what some might have you believe, our club isn't staffed by idiots. The reason we're talking about one midfielder being needed is because the current guys already signed Matic for a bargain price.

Last year we signed Van Ginkel as well, and he needs a chance this year. Then you've got Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek a little below that who are some of the brightest prospects of their generation.

Now of course there's an argument that we could sign other players for more, but who? Is Modric available as one miserable soul suggested? No. Even if he was he's in a whole other transfer demo. Vidal? Probably not. Cabaye? No. Kovacic? Another young-un who needs developing. Pogba? United were told no. Kroos? Wages are at least double and I'm not entirely sure he fits what we want

Again, no-one is saying that this guy is a dead cert to be the player we need, but it is unfair to judge him solely by this season. To me he seems like a more intelligent Ramires, but he can also look ponderous on the ball and a little lacking in cojones. He has tremendous upside if Levy actually sells him for a realistic price and he's not a massive financial burden to us long-term and in that regard he could be likened to Guarin.

Mourinho backs himself to get the absolute most out of his players though and I think with guys like Guarin and Paulinho who have a lot of technical and physical gifts, it's like a red rag to a bull.

If we're in for a midfielder, we should go for a proven top level mid rather than Paulinho, Guarin. How about promoting one of the youngsters you mentioned to 4th and 5th choice ? There is also Luiz who can fill in as DM, even Nathan Ake has played games at DM. Another squad option does not help things at all

and Re: No options available? Don't be narrow minded, this is still early May. there will be plenty of midfielders to choose from in the summer. Only one ruled out is Gundogan at the moment. Off the top of my head I'd rather have any of Rakitic Gustavo Lars Bender Schneiderlin Strootman Alex Song Barkley Ander Herrera

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Hands up, everybody here, who has watched Chelsea this season and thought to themselves 'you know what? We could really do with a Paulinho'.

Anybody?

No one?

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

Paulinho ffs. I'm convinced some people could talk themselves into backing an Andy Carroll transfer if he was linked to the club.

Me!

I Wanted us to sign him last summer and would still love to sign him now! he would be a very good replacement for Lampard!

[The only place to be 11,313]

rakitic?

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

[Beepu 1,714]

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

Who are these 6 or 7 people you keep mentioning? I haven't been on as much these days so I have no idea.

[Fernando 6,590]

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

Dude I'll say this politely, sometimes you need to back off!

You sound like your the authority here!

Cause as far as I see there's good case for Paulinho and some very bad case against him.

If you no longer have a good case then stop and don't say more, instead of calling out people as not "supporters"

[Jase 43,479]

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

Rakitic going to Real Madrid?

Honestly, if he does go there, then he's an idiot given all the amount of quality options available at Real. Would spend half of the time sitting on the bench.

[SoBlues 4]

If we sign him , I will lose faith in Mourinho.

[Kieran. 6,317]

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

YOU calling people "miserable sods"?! Mate, you cry more on this forum than anyone I've run across.

[Strike 7,527]

Saying Paulinho is average doesn't make you plastic. OPTB grasping at straws here.

[The Mak 4,459]

Rakitic going to Real Madrid?

Honestly, if he does go there, then he's an idiot given all the amount of quality options available at Real. Would spend half of the time sitting on the bench.

You're right, if that does happen, it's be stupid from both parties. Specifically because Rakitic and Modric play together for the national team but they're seen as a bit too similar and a soft spot in the team in terms of their defensive duties because of it. If Rakitic went he'd most likely waste his best years on the bench 2nd to Modric or getting criticised for unbalancing the team.

I doubt the Madrid link is solid though. And It'd be stupid if we weren't in for him. I mean, we already have leverage with Marin being there! The stats say he's only behind Iniesta and Xavi as the top midfielders in La Liga:

http://www.squawka.com/players/ivan-rakitic#performance-score#sevilla-(current)#spanish-la-liga#23#season-2013/2014#69#all-matches#1-36#by-match

[didierforever 7,349]

An option, but he's set to go to Real Madrid isn't he? A bidding war with them doesn't sound like much fun.

Look, I've said pretty much all I'm gonna say about this deal. It's not the most exciting one, it isn't Modric, it isn't Gundogan, it isn't Alonso but based on what I understand about the club then I'm prepared to wait and see and trust the manager's judgment. A lot depends on his price and the rest depends on Jose turning him into the player Spurs thought they were getting.

But once again, this forum has 6 or 7 people who just shit on the club and circle jerk one another. That's fine, it's the internet but it's amazing how little resemblance they bear to the optimism and hope that's actually around this club. I come here to talk about Chelsea with Chelsea supporters, not the miserable sods who seemingly infest every thread nowadays.

i understand what u r saying but THIS transfer will be a poor one. we have a player like paulinho in ramires. agreed that rambo has had a terrible season but so has paulinho. buying him does not make sense to me.

also, if rakitic is idiotic enough to go to RM despite them having maria, modric, alonso, illaramendi, isco, casemiro then well he deserves to rot on the bench. and even then we have good enough options like lars bender to fall upon. point being paulinho is not starter material or no more than rambo. he is not a player who the manager would be looking forward to bring on to change the game at 0-0/1-1 and nor is he a player who you would bring on in a 1-0,2-1 lead to close the game. hence what would be his role? i would rather want mikel as a squad player than buy him for some ridiculous fee that spurs would charge.

[LAB 1,030]

If Jose signs Paulinho i am going to have to change my perspective about him (Paulinho).

[Nike 373]

Has anyone done well for the Spurs this year?

I don't rate Paulinho that highly and not so much as a cm in the pivot, however, if we switch to 4-3-3, I think paulinho would do well here.

[Jase 43,479]

Dear God... You guys don't know how good he is... Ok he is in bad shape right now... But this is because of the style of football of Tottenham! Just take a look at Coutinho... After he moved from Inter to Liverpool, he turned out to be another Player! And i believe its the same for him! I am a supporter of Corinthians, so i watched him for 3 years and i say for sure that he is good! Look his matches for Brazil(confederations cup) and Corinthians(libertadores - South american Ucl)... He is another player. And its his first year at England, coming directly from Brazil... He is the kind that shows up in big matches! Can't wait to see him wearing Blue.

Just ask @Rmpr, @Henrique, @Dion and @Barbara, all supporters from rivals of Corinthians in Brazil...

Paulinho may have done well previously at Corinthians and you're right to suggest that we perhaps should cut him some slack given it's his first season in England and the mess Spurs have been in this season. However on the other hand, his performances and form could also suggest he may not fit right in with the nature of English football. Not saying he definitely won't but maybe, the signs are there watching him this season. It's a risk, a major risk with huge repurcussions if we were to get him.

[Jase 43,479]

Has anyone done well for the Spurs this year?

I don't rate Paulinho that highly and not so much as a cm in the pivot, however, if we switch to 4-3-3, I think paulinho would do well here.

Probably only Lloris and Eriksen..

[Moustradamus 60]

No, thanks. Why on god's earth would we want a Spurs reject?

The media is desperate to create rumors. What's next: Lamela to Chelsea? Their only good player is Lloris, whom I feel sorry for because he deserves a better team.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Paulinho is overrated despite the calamitous season Spurs have had and the underwhelming season he has. I just saw Kovacic rip it up for Inter with two jaw-dropping, amazing assists that will make Iniesta blush. Those are the calibre of players we should be pairing alongside Matic, not Paulinho who has been terribly overrated even from his Corinthians days. He's been living up his Confederations cup hype and as far as I'm concerned, Ramires is a better player. No, just NO.

The fact that we're even getting linked to this guy bothers me a little.

[iseah100 5,612]

No, thanks. Why on god's earth would we want a Spurs reject?

The media is desperate to create rumors. What's next: Lamela to Chelsea? Their only good player is Lloris, whom I feel sorry for because he deserves a better team.

Eriksen is pretty damn good.

Bender

Rakitic

Kovacic

Martinez. One of them please...if we can't get Vidal.

Fuck Paulinho.

[gary gordon 1,777]

How funny is it that years ago, if we were linked with signing a current Brazilian midfielder, this place would be buzzing with excitement. Now, the pro's are out to have his head before he's even put pen to paper. He has obviously fallen out of favour with his current club, which is very common when the manager that signed him was sacked. I'm not saying this guy will be the next big thing, but I think he will surprise many. Imagine how pissed those fuckwits would be if we got him cheap and he turned out to be awesome?