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I think people will change their minds about him during the WC, when he playes for a real team with real tactics and a manager.

I think it's incredibly difficult to judge him on this year because Spurs have been dreadful. He's also new to the country (although he seems to speak better English than Ramires already!) and he showed some flashes of the guy Spurs thought they were getting.

I think alongside Matic he could be a good shout, if he reaches his potential. He's got a consistent touch usually and he's a proper goal threat from deep which we've lacked all season. It's a gamble but there's definitely a massive upside here.

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Mourinho players are dumb? Okay.

I'd have said the archetypal Mourinho players are people like Lamps, JT and Drogba, none of whom I'd call dumb. Everyone knows Lamps is highly intelligent, whilst Drogba is certainly not 'dumb' based on what he's accomplished in his home country. Even JT has been spoken of as having a good regard for the tactical side of the game and being a possible future manager. His reading of the game is phenomenal as well.

In fact at Porto and Inter he had intelligent players that I don't think deserve to be called dumb.

Paulinho isn't technically average either, and he's shown an ability to not only make intelligent passes, but make late runs into the box a little like Lamps.

But to be fair lionsden did once say Rio Ferdinand lacked pace as a younger player. :D:D

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There's only one dumb/technically poor player that regularly plays for us and that's Ramires.

Arguably Ivanovic when he's in attack, but he's a natural CB so you can't fault him too much.

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I think it's incredibly difficult to judge him on this year because Spurs have been dreadful. He's also new to the country (although he seems to speak better English than Ramires already!) and he showed some flashes of the guy Spurs thought they were getting.

I think alongside Matic he could be a good shout, if he reaches his potential. He's got a consistent touch usually and he's a proper goal threat from deep which we've lacked all season. It's a gamble but there's definitely a massive upside here.

Couldn't agree more. Though I admit my assessment comes from watching him in the Confed Cup, so someone can argue that could've been a one-off and his Spurs form speaks truth to his value.

But from what I saw in the Confed Cup he's tactically sound, someone Mourinho would definitely give a run of games to. He seems like he can hold his own too, so alongside Matic in the big games we'd certainly be able to use that security he'll offer in front of the back line. Against weaker teams he'll be able to assist the attacking midfield players making those intelligent passes into spaces for the wide players to run into the channels.

I think Tottenham will really try to squeeze every million out of us. I wouldn't want to see him come for more than £20million

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Paulinho would be a horrible signing, we can do so much better.

Surely that depends on the price. If Spurs are willing to cut their losses then maybe he's worth a punt.

To me he seems like a Ramires with better technique, a better eye for goal and less...impulsive (<--- code word for 'a bit thick'). Considering we could be losing Luiz, Mikel and maybe even Lamps and Rami, we're going to need midfielders.

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Don't rate him all that much, even when he was at Corinthians or when he plays for Selecao. If the plan is to offload Ramires and bring in Paulinho, then that would represent an astute piece of business to me. We'd be replacing one player with a marginal better player at little cost to us. I'd be happy with that. But if the plan is to keep Ramires & spend 15-20 million on another player who isn't really a major upgrade, then we're not really strengthening a weak area. It'd be a waste of money.

If the club truly are committed to investing 15 million plus on a central midfield signing, then they should aiming higher. Otherwise may as well just save the 20m and play Marco.

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I don't necessarily think that he would be a bad signing, I think the reaction around here is due to that we were 'linked' to players like vidal, kroos, martinez, etc. and when the name paulinho came up it will sound underwhelming compared to those, and rightly so. But we have no idea if any of the rumours have any substance or not.

This is the time of the season where the media will link any players unsettled to chelsea.

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Surely that depends on the price. If Spurs are willing to cut their losses then maybe he's worth a punt.

To me he seems like a Ramires with better technique, a better eye for goal and less...impulsive (<--- code word for 'a bit thick'). Considering we could be losing Luiz, Mikel and maybe even Lamps and Rami, we're going to need midfielders.

What an absolute dream it would be if we can basically start over in midfield and bring in a couple of top class players there. If only José saw Ramires as we all do which is a squad player.

If Luiz and Mikel are gone I wouldn't mind Paulinho and a truly elite, everyday starter CM.

Honestly, at this point I'd be surprised if we did bring in a new midfielder. Even though I think it's time Lamps moved on it's pretty clear he'll be back and Luiz I feel José will keep due his versatility. Mikel is the only one who I think will be off and we may just think MvG will fill his spot. Hope I'm wrong and I'm pleasantly surprised by a shiny new CM.

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Hands up, everybody here, who has watched Chelsea this season and thought to themselves 'you know what? We could really do with a Paulinho'.

Anybody?

No one?

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

Paulinho ffs. :lol: I'm convinced some people could talk themselves into backing an Andy Carroll transfer if he was linked to the club.

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Don't rate him all that much, even when he was at Corinthians or when he plays for Selecao. If the plan is to offload Ramires and bring in Paulinho, then that would represent an astute piece of business to me. We'd be replacing one player with a marginal better player at little cost to us. I'd be happy with that. But if the plan is to keep Ramires & spend 15-20 million on another player who isn't really a major upgrade, then we're not really strengthening a weak area. It'd be a waste of money.

If the club truly are committed to investing 15 million plus on a central midfield signing, then they should aiming higher. Otherwise may as well just save the 20m and play Marco.

Totally agree.

Although if we get rid of David Luiz, Mikel, Lamp doesn't really come into the equation since he's on his last we will be left with Ramires and Matic.

Don't want to count Van Ginkel yet, because it's like Kalas. Might have some promises, but Mourinho might not trust him.

So that's a wild card to put your eggs in.

Paulinho would be a decent addition but we would still need another CM. Unless we promote from within.

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Hands up, everybody here, who has watched Chelsea this season and thought to themselves 'you know what? We could really do with a Paulinho'.

Anybody?

No one?

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

Paulinho ffs. :lol: I'm convinced some people could talk themselves into backing an Andy Carroll transfer if he was linked to the club.

I've thought to myself we need a midfielder and I'm sure the club have thought the same.

Like I said without knowing the price and the plans for Rami, Mikel and Luiz then it's hard to say it's an idea without merit.

Kroos, Martinez, Pogba, Vidal....all these players would likely cost double what Paulinho's market value right now would be.

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