Duppy Conqueror 1,532 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I`m not gonna say "fuck John Stones" because he`s acting like a classy young pro by not demanding a transfer.it doesn`t mean he`s refusing to join us,it doesn`t mean we can`t get him. just because he hasn`t as yet or may not hand in an official transfer request. such a thing is not legally binding to force a move to another club.the club can still refuse a move when a player is under contract. Everton are dragging their feet as they sign other CB`s. if we continue our interest I think we will eventually get him..probably next week but if not then,then in the winter window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Calling it now, he hands in a transfer request after the City game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 He won't be there for long. If we don't buy him this summer someone will next.I honestly doubt it, we are the only club who has bid for him, United and City probably aren't interested considering they've got better CBs at their disposal. If we don't get him this summer I think we should just give up and look else where. He is not a top player so I really couldn't give a shit if we get him or not to be honest. If he wants to play for a top club, there is no better club in the PL to play for as a CB in my eyes, Jose is here and JT is here. If the kid wants to develop into a top CB it would make every bit of sense to come here and learn from JT ... even Cahill as well and eventually replace one of the two in the lineup but he's clearly content at Everton so we should look elsewhere. Its not like there is a shortage of CBs. If he was a top class player like say for instance, when we missed out on Aguero and Silva... when we were linked for ages and apparently had offers rejected, I was genuinely gutted to see them go to City. If Stones were to go to City/United, I really couldn't care. Luke Shaw maybe now by the looks of this season, was someone we shouldn't have missed out on because so far he looks frighteningly good this year, pacey, strong, composed but even then John Stones is a class below him in terms of talent, so it wouldn't put me up or down if he were to stay at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 He won't be there for long. If we don't buy him this summer someone will next.City/Utd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 + Some Bullshit things from Lukaku...Of course Lukaku would say some shit, because his time with us didn't turn out to be very fruitful did it?? He says it because he wouldn't want the same to happen to John Stones.. ..typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 City/Utd...United... Really? I don't know man. My mate is a United fan and he keeps saying Chris Smalling has probably been the most improved player at Man United since LvG took over, at points last season he looked very good for them to be honest, I doubt he is going to get rid of him for John Stones, maybe he would sell Phil Jones but they wouldn't have given him a new deal if that was the case.He's also very keen on having a right footed CB on the right and a left footed CB on the left so I really don't see him being particularly fussed about that right side as much when they have Jones, Smalling, Evans, McNair all for that side, when they are all under 30 years old. They have Rojo and Blind on the left so maybe that's the side they will look to improve, he said last year at one point he didn't have enough left footed players in his squad... City have just bought Otamendi to compete with Kompany, Mangala, Demichelis.. again 4 good options to have, even if they go for Stones next summer, hes going to probably be 3rd/4th choice behind Kompany-Otamendi depending what happens with Martin Demichelis.I'd say ideally we are probably the only club he would get regular games for out of the three because we are going to need to phase JT out soon. We can't play with a high line against top teams with JT in the back line, it's not going to work too well at all.. like we seen under Villas-Boas but if we can't find another CB who is fast enough with the right characteristics to play that far up in a high line then we really aren't looking hard enough because I'm sure there are other CBs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I honestly doubt it, we are the only club who has bid for him, United and City probably aren't interested considering they've got better CBs at their disposal. If we don't get him this summer I think we should just give up and look else where. He is not a top player so I really couldn't give a shit if we get him or not to be honest. If he wants to play for a top club, there is no better club in the PL to play for as a CB in my eyes, Jose is here and JT is here. If the kid wants to develop into a top CB it would make every bit of sense to come here and learn from JT ... even Cahill as well and eventually replace one of the two in the lineup but he's clearly content at Everton so we should look elsewhere. Its not like there is a shortage of CBs. If he was a top class player like say for instance, when we missed out on Aguero and Silva... when we were linked for ages and apparently had offers rejected, I was genuinely gutted to see them go to City. If Stones were to go to City/United, I really couldn't care. Luke Shaw maybe now by the looks of this season, was someone we shouldn't have missed out on because so far he looks frighteningly good this year, pacey, strong, composed but even then John Stones is a class below him in terms of talent, so it wouldn't put me up or down if he were to stay at Everton. City I'll agree with now they've signed one, but United? Do they really have better CBs? Smalling has improved drastically but he needs a consistent partner with him, Jones is always sidelined and so his match fitness is never sharp. Rojo is having problems too, in fact Stones and Smalling could strike up a partnership which is just as effective as the potential of Zouma - Stones. Also, I disagree with the statement he's not a top player. Yeah he's not world-class yet, but he's most definitely a top player. When you talk about young, composed, ball playing centre backs right now in the league it would be indefensible not to include Stones in that crop. He's still young, but the composure he shows when he comes against top players is commendable. He's one of Everton's more consistent players, even last season when they had that dramatic dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 City I'll agree with now they've signed one, but United? Do they really have better CBs? Smalling has improved drastically but he needs a consistent partner with him, Jones is always sidelined and so his match fitness is never sharp. Rojo is having problems too, in fact Stones and Smalling could strike up a partnership which is just as effective as the potential of Zouma - Stones. Also, I disagree with the statement he's not a top player. Yeah he's not world-class yet, but he's most definitely a top player. When you talk about young, composed, ball playing centre backs right now in the league it would be indefensible not to include Stones in that crop. He's still young, but the composure he shows when he comes against top players is commendable. He's one of Everton's more consistent players, even last season when they had that dramatic dip.He is really about the only young CB I can think of in the league who is in that mould anyway along with Jason Denayer although he's not a first team regular with City. Don't think it is exactly fair to compare him with a guy who just finished a season on loan with Celtic, where Virgil van Dijk could probably have played as the only CB and kept clean sheets at times. Being a ball playing CB is all good, like Luiz at times but to be a top CB you need to be brilliant defensively, he strikes me as good to a certain point, I don't think he'll turn out half as good as what people think. As I said regard LvG, he's gone for Smalling-Blind at CB mainly because of the balance, a right footer and a left footer, I believe this will be recurring in his defence this season and next. I don't think Rojo is as bad as people make out, he was injured and missed bits of last season and when Shaw was injured played LB but he is a strong and pacey CB, its going to be his second season now so he will probably be better equipped for the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 It's from Daily Express, which is as bad as The Sun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Everton's John Stones to appeal directly to chairman Kenwright to let him leaveJohn Stones will appeal directly to Everton chairman Bill Kenwright to let him leave Goodison Park and join Jose Mourinho at Chelsea this week, write Alan Oliver and Steve Bates in the Sunday People.Toffees manager Roberto Martinez is insisting that the defender will not be allowed to go - even if he slaps in a transfer request.Chelsea have made three bids for centre-back Stones - the last one of £30million - which have all been turned down.But Mourinho is so keen to sign the 21-year-old England international, Chelsea will make one final bid of £36m. They are expecting that, with Stones' desire to go to Stamford Bridge, will be enough to seal the deal.Stones will officially ask to leave and take his request to join Chelsea to the board, who will find it difficult to block.Kenwright is Everton through and through, but deep down he would accept a British record deal for a young defender they signed from Barnsley for a mere £3m is really great business.People Sport revealed last Sunday that Barnsley are entitled to a 15 per cent sell on clause, meaning Everton, to bank a clear £30m from the deal, will have to demand around £36m from Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 ChelsTransfer @ChelsTransfer 1m1 minute agoChelsea to make a 4th bid - this time of £36m & expect a combination of that and Stones desire to join them will get the deal done (Mirror) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 If he goes to Kenwright, hes ours. Bill will jump at £36m. Absolutely no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 35mil should seal it. Everton will be mad not to take it and run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 If he goes to Kenwright, hes ours. Bill will jump at £36m. Absolutely no doubtMartinez is going to be pissed if that happens (assuming he is really hell bent on not wanting to sell Stones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacika 188 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 We are overpaying him because he's english but it's not my money and if Otamendi and Mangala are 40 mil players, thrn fuck it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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