Toni Kroos

[Beigl 1,387]

he was a nailed on starter last year before missing the last part of the season with a injury...

With last year I CLEARLY meant the beginning of THIS season.But yes he is one of the best midfielders,just because he bossed Arsenals midfield...

[The Skipper 20,593]

But yes he is one of the best midfielders,just because he bossed Arsenals midfield...

Go back in this thread before the Arsenal game and you'll see me and a lot of other people saying exactly the same thing.

EDIT: Here, quoted it for you, my post a few weeks before the game against Arsenal.

Kroos would be an insane signing, a Kroos - Matic pivot would be the best in the PL. Guy is insanely talented and has fantastic vision and is also a willing worker.

The only thing that I don't like in his game is his lack of pace, but apart from that if we managed to pull off a signing like this I'd be ecstatic.

Kroos, Ramires, Matic, MVG, Chalobah, RLC for the midfield in the future would be quality.

[Eligius 121]

One positive about Kroos is against teams that park the bus.

He would probably be the best bet to shoot outside the box and score.

He would also solve our set piece deficiencies.

However, as I mentioned before, Kroos is really slow.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Hate to see him go to United but could he actually do what would be required of him in our midfield? We need an engine in that midfield, probably someone in the mould of De Rossi who can put in a shift and find a pass. Van Ginkel has shown flashes of being able to do that and he'll get all summer to rehab that knee and get into shape. Then there's the younger guys like Baker, Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek who are probably a couple of seasons away from being ready (Nat is the closest and I'm always inclined to throw his name in there).

Kroos is attractive because he's potentially available, but I'm not entirely convinced he's the right guy for us. Sure Matic can do a lot of the defensive work but he can also roam forward and pick a pass so why not get someone who can do the same to have a dynamic pivot?

[The Skipper 20,593]

We need an engine in that midfield, probably someone in the mould of De Rossi who can put in a shift and find a pass.

We have that in Matic...

What we really need is someone next to Matic who can give us more impetus in our attack especially against those teams that just sit back with 10 men, someone in the mould of Kroos would be ideal.

My midfield options next year would ideally be (someone like) Kroos, Matic, Ramires, MVG, Chalobah.

[The only place to be 11,313]

We have that in Matic...

What we really need is someone next to Matic who can give us more impetus in our attack especially against those teams that just sit back with 10 men, someone in the mould of Kroos would be ideal.

My midfield options next year would ideally be (someone like) Kroos, Matic, Ramires, MVG, Chalobah.

The thing about Matic is that he can push forward as well as do his defensive duties. That to me is the modern midfielder, and I'm not entirely sure if Kroos can do that. Maybe we don't need that but it's certainly something to be considered if we're spending this much on a player.

[The Skipper 20,593]

The thing about Matic is that he can push forward as well as do his defensive duties. That to me is the modern midfielder, and I'm not entirely sure if Kroos can do that. Maybe we don't need that but it's certainly something to be considered if we're spending this much on a player.

I understand what you mean, but we already have two modern midfielders (possibly three if you want to add Nat to that) in MvG and Matic. It would be better if we could have a specialist playmaker in there in scenarios where we struggle to break down teams - Kroos would infinitely help in that regard.

Don't forget, he won't be too expensive either considering his contract is expiring in a year or so. He'd be available for a relatively fair price (i.e. £25m at most) which is fine.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

With our current system I don't see Kroos getting many games against top teams and that's probably why he would dread coming here. He might not be used against teams who have good possession and long fast breaks, games where it doesn' take a fortune teller to figure out we'll have a midfield full of grinders.

[Beigl 1,387]

He may be a good player,but not as good as some people make him out to be.I think we need a more dynamic player alongside Matic.Unfortunately Modric isn´t available.Modric and Matic would complement each other very well,I think.We have time to assess our options.

[yuvala 2,167]

He may be a good player,but not as good as some people make him out to be.I think we need a more dynamic player alongside Matic.Unfortunately Modric isn´t available.Modric and Matic would complement each other very well,I think.We have time to assess our options.

Yea you're right.

Kroos is a very good player but we really do need someone more like Modric, as you said.

Can anyone think of any player?

[Beigl 1,387]

Yea you're right.

Kroos is a very good player but we really do need someone more like Modric, as you said.

Can anyone think of any player?

Xabi Alonso comes to my mind,but he might be too old and RM won´t sell him. :/

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Luca Modric is amazing keep dreaming if you think we have a shot at signing him.

[Eligius 121]

I understand what you mean, but we already have two modern midfielders (possibly three if you want to add Nat to that) in MvG and Matic. It would be better if we could have a specialist playmaker in there in scenarios where we struggle to break down teams - Kroos would infinitely help in that regard.

Don't forget, he won't be too expensive either considering his contract is expiring in a year or so. He'd be available for a relatively fair price (i.e. £25m at most) which is fine.

25 would be the starting price, especially knowing that Moyes is going to make him the number 1 target.

If he was 25m, Arsene wenger would be all over him....

If the bavarians sell kroos, they will have a long list of suitors.. However, i highly doubt Kroos leaves.

If I were to bet, I would bet Arsenal, United than Chelsea.

[Alabama 1,992]

Yea you're right.

Kroos is a very good player but we really do need someone more like Modric, as you said.

Can anyone think of any player?

Gundogan but his back injury and fitness concern is something to worry about...but if he can come back and recover fully from d injury...i ll be highly dissappointed if we didnt go for him in the transfer window...cos his price will be cheap and he is a fucking good deep-lying playmaker that that will complement the beast in matic by 200%...another option is Vidal but he will cost us heaven to price away from Juventus...while the likes of koke and witsel are also worth considering...

[Alabama 1,992]

Yea you're right.

Kroos is a very good player but we really do need someone more like Modric, as you said.

Can anyone think of any player?

Gundogan but his back injury and fitness concern is something to worry about...but if he can come back and recover fully from d injury...i ll be highly dissappointed if we didnt go for him in the transfer window...cos his price will be cheap and he is a fucking good deep-lying playmaker that that will complement the beast in matic by 200%...another option is Vidal but he will cost us heaven to price away from Juventus...while the likes of koke and witsel are also worth considering...

[lucio 5,418]

Gundogan but his back injury and fitness concern is something to worry about...but if he can come back and recover fully from d injury...i ll be highly dissappointed if we didnt go for him in the transfer window...cos his price will be cheap and he is a fucking good deep-lying playmaker that that will complement the beast in matic by 200%...another option is Vidal but he will cost us heaven to price away from Juventus...while the likes of koke and witsel are also worth considering...

why not ander herrera? , creative , technically astute and very hard working in defence.

watched him vs valencia last night. controlled the game like modric would.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

why not ander herrera? , creative , technically astute and very hard working in defence.

watched him vs valencia last night. controlled the game like modric would.

His buy out clause I think is 45mill

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Kroos is top player but not the type we need. First, he is more CAM than CM. He lacks pace for PL. His defending is average, strength wont help him. Modric, Alonso, Gundogan for example are much better at defending. He doesnt track back enough, doesnt work hard enough for Mou system.

If there are other options ala Vidal or fit Gundogan, get them. If they wont be available, Kroos will still be good addition.