Ryan Bertrand

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6 defenders for 4 positions. just plain stupid. 2 out of those 6 are 33 year olds. how does this deal help us in anyway?

Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

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Schurrle will miss his best friend

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Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

I thought Kalas should have been the one going on loan

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Cole

Azpi

Ivanovic

Kalas

Luiz

Terry

Cahill

7 for 4. Not ideal but Bertrand wasn't being included anyway so the situation isn't vastly different than it was an hour ago. His transfer value was dropping so maybe this increases it or maybe we're actually looking at getting Zouma or Shaw in.

KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.

SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better.

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Bertrand will be a very good signing for Villa

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KALAS??? is he still here!!! tell me the number of minutes he has played.

In the league? 64 minutes less than Bertrand.

SCENARIO - iva not available for city match, just in case one of azpi/cole gets injured, who hell is going to play LB/RB??? essien??? kalas??? this is a STUPID move. even if we buy LUKE right now, its still stupid cos we will be paying at least 20+mil for a LB. no spin that u can put to this move can make it any better.

Probably Luiz. Yes in hypotheticals it could be bad, but football clubs have to be run on the reality of the situation.

We've let a player who has played 64 minutes of league football go on loan. If nothing it gets his wages off the books, but it might also be a sign of us signing Luke Shaw who could be the future of this club.

Loaning a player who wasn't being used doesn't need spin. He's third choice left-back and he's got himself a decent loan.

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He will finally have a chance to show what he really can do. I'm sure he can do a really good job, whenever he played for us he never looked out of place.

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Wow, what a BS move.

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Why is it wrong for Bertrand to go out on a loan ?

He has fallen back in the pecking order & him playing at Aston just be what he needs.

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In the league? 64 minutes less than Bertrand.

Probably Luiz. Yes in hypotheticals it could be bad, but football clubs have to be run on the reality of the situation.

We've let a player who has played 64 minutes of league football go on loan. If nothing it gets his wages off the books, but it might also be a sign of us signing Luke Shaw who could be the future of this club.

Loaning a player who wasn't being used doesn't need spin. He's third choice left-back and he's got himself a decent loan.

we have BA and essien "on the books" earning 80k and 100k respectively but are worried about bertrand's wages? weird!!

how conviniently u emphasize on "league". RB was never going to be the first team player. where he is used best was in squad rotation. with the FA cup matches and replays to be played, that is where he would have been useful. also, in giving a "rest" to our fullbacks before big european nights in quarters and semis.

what i dont get is, its fine having 3 strikers for 1 positions, 6 CMs for 2 positions but bertrand as our 7th defender is unnecessary.

also, the shaw deal, still makes no sense. 20mil for him to be our 3rd choice LB cos i dont see jose dropping iva once he comes back and every1 knows his favouritism towards ash.

also the scenario i gave u might be hypothetical but can so easily be "reality". injuries in football is not unheard of and thats why "big" teams normally have "squad" depth.

i mean lets look at man city - kolarov, clichy, zabaleta, richards as their fullbacks and kompany, demichellis, nastastic, and lescott as their cbs. and here we are sending a perfectly fine squad player on loan

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For Bertrand finally for us plain stupid

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we have BA and essien "on the books" earning 80k and 100k respectively but are worried about bertrand's wages? weird!!

Accountants eh? It all counts.

how conviniently u emphasize on "league". RB was never going to be the first team player. where he is used best was in squad rotation. with the FA cup matches and replays to be played, that is where he would have been useful. also, in giving a "rest" to our fullbacks before big european nights in quarters and semis.

League cup matches could've been included, except we aren't in that competition anymore and he wasn't in the last game either.

what i dont get is, its fine having 3 strikers for 1 positions, 6 CMs for 2 positions but bertrand as our 7th defender is unnecessary.

We're selling De Bruyne so it's 5 for 3 spots now.

also, the shaw deal, still makes no sense. 20mil for him to be our 3rd choice LB cos i dont see jose dropping iva once he comes back and every1 knows his favouritism towards ash.

Ash who has been dropped this season?? Luke Shaw would probably be first or second choice and then the plan would be for him to be first-choice for the next decade. How does that now make sense?

also the scenario i gave u might be hypothetical but can so easily be "reality". injuries in football is not unheard of and thats why "big" teams normally have "squad" depth.

True, but he's played 64 minutes of first-team league football in the first 21 games of the season. It's unlikely he would've played much and that's what these calls are based on.

i mean lets look at man city - kolarov, clichy, zabaleta, richards as their fullbacks and kompany, demichellis, nastastic, and lescott as their cbs. and here we are sending a perfectly fine squad player on loan

And in midfield that have Toure and Fernandinho.....then it's a big drop to Garcia and Rodwell. That's just the way it works sometimes. All of those players you've mentioned have played more than an hour of league football too.

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Good move for Bertrand's career...he was never going to be Chelsea's #1 LB

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Accountants eh? It all counts.

League cup matches could've been included, except we aren't in that competition anymore and he wasn't in the last game either.

We're selling De Bruyne so it's 5 for 3 spots now.

Ash who has been dropped this season?? Luke Shaw would probably be first or second choice and then the plan would be for him to be first-choice for the next decade. How does that now make sense?

True, but he's played 64 minutes of first-team league football in the first 21 games of the season. It's unlikely he would've played much and that's what these calls are based on.

And in midfield that have Toure and Fernandinho.....then it's a big drop to Garcia and Rodwell. That's just the way it works sometimes. All of those players you've mentioned have played more than an hour of league football too.

he was "injured" for the last game and has been "injured" for a long time (remembers me so much of sturridge and his "injuries"). though now i am sure he will play each and every match for villa without any "injuries".

no, we have 5 AMs for 3 spots and 6 CMs for 2 spots (matic, rambo, mikel, lamps, mvg and essien). bit much!!!

they have played league football cos they have been selected by their and shown some faith. bertrand would have 2nd to willian as a MOTM in the arsenal carling cup game but somehow got the boot from jose.on the other hand, AC who had a horrendous start to the season was continued to play until it became clear that he should be dropped.

shaw becoming the first choice LB ahead of both azpi/cole is unrealistic in my opinion. i simply dont think that can happen in a club like chelsea. infact i think he would be loaned out to vitesse in the summer if he is bought.

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I think and hope that Jose has something lined up to replace Ryan. I can't imagine he would be okay with leaving us this thin at the back. Maybe Coentrao on loan till the end of the season?