Nemanja Matic

[didierforever 7,349]

To me, it's not even about that anymore tbh. I've accepted that Oscar is an unconventional, unorthodox number 10, with a different role compared to your traditional number 10. What Oscar allows is a platform for someone like Fabregas to dictate the game at a more effective rate. Frees Fabregas from his defensive shackles a lot.

i would say that would be the exact thinking of playing RAMBO-MATIC. freeing fabregas.

this match was a one-off. everton were 2-0 down in 3 minutes and played exactly like they should, "a nothing to lose mentality". we are not going to have many matches where our mid gets dominated this way and almost all of our 3 mids have an off-day defensively.

[The Chels 2,502]

Oscar bashers underestimate his football intelligence.

[zolayes 14,489]

Oscar bashers underestimate his football intelligence.

I dont think there are many Oscar bashers ,, Lionsden yes but I think we all know his intelligence

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I dont think there are many Oscar bashers ,, Lionsden yes but I think we all know his intelligence

I remember people wanted coutinho over Oscar, yet its Coutinho thats losing his place on a midtable team.

[The Skipper 20,593]

i would say that would be the exact thinking of playing RAMBO-MATIC. freeing fabregas.

this match was a one-off. everton were 2-0 down in 3 minutes and played exactly like they should, "a nothing to lose mentality". we are not going to have many matches where our mid gets dominated this way and almost all of our 3 mids have an off-day defensively.

But Fabregas operates better when his starting position is from deep. Oscar thus provides a much better platform for Fabregas to have a bigger influence on the game, and also aids us a lot better in ball retention.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

But Fabregas operates better when his starting position is from deep. Oscar thus provides a much better platform for Fabregas to have a bigger influence on the game, and also aids us a lot better in ball retention.

Fabregas isn't tested in that role behind the striker in the PL, yet. For all I know, he could work his magic more effectively from there.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Fabregas isn't tested in that role behind the striker in the PL, yet. For all I know, he could work his magic more effectively from there.

In our system, it's much better he operates from deep simply because he'll have more time and space to pick out his runs from deep and also more vision on the pitch. I'm not basing this on what he's done here, just basing it on his attributes as a player. He'll be able to ping through balls better instead of constantly being surrounded in tight spaces by their CMs and CBs.

[didierforever 7,349]

But Fabregas operates better when his starting position is from deep. Oscar thus provides a much better platform for Fabregas to have a bigger influence on the game, and also aids us a lot better in ball retention.

fair enough. but against big teams and specially against teams like everton who are quick in their passin and against whom we will have to do our share of defending, ramb-matic will be much better option.

also, while cesc's strength would be playing deep, he would be a great no.10 too. while oscar gives us workrate, cesc would give us clinicality in that role.

[The Skipper 20,593]

fair enough. but against big teams and specially against teams like everton who are quick in their passin and against whom we will have to do our share of defending, ramb-matic will be much better option.

also, while cesc's strength would be playing deep, he would be a great no.10 too. while oscar gives us workrate, cesc would give us clinicality in that role.

Yup I agree. Ramires is a must for me in big games because of the legs he adds to our midfield. He needs to improve defensively though, he's a lot better than what he showed against Everton.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

In our system, it's much better he operates from deep simply because he'll have more time and space to pick out his runs from deep and also more vision on the pitch. I'm not basing this on what he's done here, just basing it on his attributes as a player. He'll be able to ping through balls better instead of constantly being surrounded in tight spaces by their CMs and CBs.

Fair point. Let's just hope that Jose finds his preferred formation and starting eleven soon. Also separately for bigger and smaller sides.

[Stats 7,059]

I remember people wanted coutinho over Oscar, yet its Coutinho thats losing his place on a midtable team.

Coutinho has not lost his place at Liverpool. He will be rotated there. IMO Oscar would not get into Liverpool's team as well as they have Sterling in the diamond role. Coutinho plays as the LCM for Liverpool but has more of an advanced role. Pointless argument.

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Coutinho has not lost his place at Liverpool. He will be rotated there. IMO Oscar would not get into Liverpool's team as well as they have Sterling in the diamond role. Coutinho plays as the LCM for Liverpool but has more of an advanced role. Pointless argument.

LOL. Oscar would not get into Liverpool startin 11, but gets on Chelsea 11 and brazil...

He would lose out to a team of all brits minus mario for a spot right?

[Stats 7,059]

LOL. Oscar would not get into Liverpool startin 11, but gets on Chelsea 11 and brazil...

He would lose out to a team of all brits minus mario for a spot right?

And what is the reason David Luiz could not get into our team then? But guess what he could get into Brazil and most other teams in the world.

And yes, Oscar would not get into Liverpool's team. Whose place would he take? Not Sturrdige. Not Sterling. Not Balotelli. Whose place would he take?

Either way my point is you can't judge that one player is better than another because that certain player could not get into the team.

[Tomo 21,733]

And Oscar is well known for his ability to dictate and control the tempo? LMAO. How come he couldn't influence majority of the matches we were either thoroughly outplayed or played poorly in since he joined like against Shaktar (H &A) ,Juventus (away),Liverpool 12/13, Man city 12/13 and 13/14 (H), Basel, Swansea 12/13,QPR 12/13,Newcastle away 13/14 and many many more if he's such a big impact?. Your claim/argument is not only daft but also baseless.

Liverpool were bolax in the 1-1 in 12/13, how they got a point still beats me.

Which Swansea game are you referring to? can't be the one we lost but dominated the game surely?

Also City at home we were by far the better team in the first half and should have been out of sight by half time.

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And what is the reason David Luiz could not get into our team then? But guess what he could get into Brazil and most other teams in the world.

And yes, Oscar would not get into Liverpool's team. Whose place would he take? Not Sturrdige. Not Sterling. Not Balotelli. Whose place would he take?

Either way my point is you can't judge that one player is better than another because that certain player could not get into the team.

David Luiz doesnt fit Jose Mourinho. Its really not a difficult concept.

LOL. Oscar plays the football that Rodgers wants Coutinho to play. Oscar is exactly what Rodgers wants in Coutinho. The cam that would press to death the opposition and score goals....

So, now hendo, sterling, daniel and joe allen are better options than Oscar for liverpool...TEAM GB OLE!

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I kind of wonder if Matic signed up to be a dm or if he envisioned himself as the deep lying playmaker for Chelsea

[Reddish-Blue 2,354]

David Luiz doesnt fit Jose Mourinho. Its really not a difficult concept.

LOL. Oscar plays the football that Rodgers wants Coutinho to play. Oscar is exactly what Rodgers wants in Coutinho. The cam that would press to death the opposition and score goals....

So, now hendo, sterling, daniel and joe allen are better options than Oscar for liverpool...TEAM GB OLE!

If Rodgers wants Coutinho to play like Oscar, he's making a mistake.

Coutinho's strength is his attacking ability & flair....unlike Oscar who's main strength is defensive workrate.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

If Rodgers wants Coutinho to play like Oscar, he's making a mistake.

Coutinho's strength is his attacking ability & flair....unlike Oscar who's main strength is defensive workrate.

As well ask work rate, so far this season he had improved his positioning too. Allowing him to drop deep for both Matic and Fabregas