bushman 2,043 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I would rest Oscar and give Mata a startWell said. So would I. Mata could use some fillip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't buy this resting players thing, Oscar for example had a week's rest when he wasn't named in the squad for the Arsenal game. I'd go with the same 11, with maybe Hazard coming in for Schurrle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I may honestly hang myself of Lampard starts again.Mikel/Ramires is our best pivot. Would love to see the same back 4 as yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I may honestly hang myself of Lampard starts again.Mikel/Ramires is our best pivot. Would love to see the same back 4 as yesterday.Bit extreme. Lampard and Ramires have been good this season. Going overboard after one shit game against Newcastle (No Oscar in the CAM) and one win against Schalke (3-0, same result we got with Rami and Lamps having a stormer) seems unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Bit extreme. Lampard and Ramires have been good this season. Going overboard after one shit game against Newcastle (No Oscar in the CAM) and one win against Schalke (3-0, same result we got with Rami and Lamps having a stormer) seems unnecessary.It wasn't just the Newcastle match I'm basing my opinion on. Hell, to be honest some of our other players were so poor that I didn't really pay Lamps too much attention. He hasn't been up to the standard necessary for a team trying to win a title. He looks way off the pace these days. He gets blown by easily and kills breaks fairly often with loose passes. You could excuse this stuff the past couple seasons because he'd still knock in double-digit goals, but he hasn't been scoring and is a liability defending. It's just my opinion that he should only be used as a late game sub if we need a late goal. No way he should be first choice out there like he has been. Hasn't been detrimental to us thus far, but we'd be shredded and destroyed by better sides with him in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The better question is "what did he do to stay on?" hahahaha... what has hazard done this entire season to warrant a start over schurrle? schurrle has been more of a threat attackingly, much much more effective in defence. he has been doing what hazard should have been doing, BEING DIRECT. all in all after being dropped after the man city game where he got the ever so important first goal, i dont see why he should be dropped again after giving a good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It wasn't just the Newcastle match I'm basing my opinion on. Hell, to be honest some of our other players were so poor that I didn't really pay Lamps too much attention.He hasn't been up to the standard necessary for a team trying to win a title. He looks way off the pace these days. He gets blown by easily and kills breaks fairly often with loose passes. You could excuse this stuff the past couple seasons because he'd still knock in double-digit goals, but he hasn't been scoring and is a liability defending.It's just my opinion that he should only be used as a late game sub if we need a late goal. No way he should be first choice out there like he has been. Hasn't been detrimental to us thus far, but we'd be shredded and destroyed by better sides with him in there.Nail, head and on that... Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 By no means an easy game, it would be tricky. 3pts are all we need, flashy or cagey I don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cole and Lampard wiil be back for the league game v West Brom no doubt about that, a Weds/Sat turn around makes it certain that players will be rested for the more important games and Shalke was a bit of a gimmee after the 3-0 away victory . The same 11 will not start on Saturday that is guaranteed and your top players need to play in the important games,after the Newcastle loss it is imperative we do not slip up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes it was one game but their performance makes me less worried. I hope that Etoo and Ba do as well. We should beat WBA about 3-0 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I would drop oscar.....Mikel-Essien/AkeMata-Lampard-WillianBaBut this will never happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Hopefully we blow them out by the first half so we can see kdb get some run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cole and Lampard wiil be back for the league game v West Brom no doubt about that, a Weds/Sat turn around makes it certain that players will be rested for the more important games and Shalke was a bit of a gimmee after the 3-0 away victory . The same 11 will not start on Saturday that is guaranteed and your top players need to play in the important games,after the Newcastle loss it is imperative we do not slip up here. our top players did play in the important and the core of that team will be the same against wba too. lamps and cole will not and should not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 There will be changes the Weds/Sat turn around demands that ,the fitness people at the club will tell you that performance will suffer, like a Thurs/Sun game turnaround . I think Hazard, Cole and Lampard especially will return on Saturday that looks fairly obvious . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I would drop oscar.....Mikel-Essien/AkeMata-Lampard-WillianBaBut this will never happen...NOT DROP Oscar ...rest him.. A big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I have absolutely no doubt Mikel and Ramires will be our midfield duo on Saturday, Lampard now has a perfect role getting a few minutes here and there off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Based on what he said on his interview about how happy he was with the three players behind the striker I wonder if Mourinho won't keep the three intact. He may get Hazard to replace Schürrle just to prove to Eden everything is dealt with for his training session missed (I agree that nothing more than a game should be done, although in Brazil sometimes the player is fined by the club as well, which I think is appropriate, if I miss a day of work the school may discount it from may payroll). Schürrle had a good match, but nothing spectacular imo, so dropping him for Eden is okay. If he decides to keep Schürrle, I think it's okay too as Hazard didn't play particularly well against Newcastle (who did?).The other possible change could be Mata for Oscar, simply because this is one of those games that suits Mata imo. Oscar did nothing to be dropped imo, as he still offers more collectively to the team than Mata does (creatively neither has been impressive in their last two matches, so any edge Mata has in that department is based on potential, not recent performances). I doubt Mourinho will do it, but I'd be okay if he did. I'm pretty sure he'll start both Oscar and Willian and I guess it's 50/50 between André and Eden.As for the changes in the back... I wish he didn't change. One match before an international break will do nothing to Luiz's form. Azpilicueta was miles better than Cole (Bertrand if recovered is a valid option though) and I think Mikel worked well with Ramires. I can see him rewarding Lamps' assist with another start. I wouldn't mind in this particular match either as I think this is the kind of match Lamps can play well for us, basically for the same reasons I think Mata could. So I'd say Cahill is a given, Cole has about 30% chances of starting and Lamps 60%.Personally I don't care much about most players starting. With the exception of Cech, Terry, Cahill, Ramires, Willian and Eto'o (as Torres is injured), anyone else he decides to play is okay (although I'd love Cole to warm the bench again). Our problem against Newcastle was attitude and I don't see this team making the same mistake twice in a row. They don't want to piss Mourinho off with bad attitude in such short term and that's why I think they won't. Hazard, Mata, Schürrle, Oscar, Mikel, Lamps are all playing good enough to justify their selections if they play, and except a few combinations that are bad (such as Mazacar and Mata + Lamps), whoever play has all conditions to make a good match and get us the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The fitness of Ivanovic and Rami is just amazing. Rami had to play without rest simce the Mikel-Lamps pivot doesn't work that well. My team for the Baggies. ................ Cech......... Azpi...... Cahill...... Luiz...... Cole........... Rami..... Lamps............ Eden...... Mata.......... Schurrle ............ Torres (if fit)I'd rest Ivanovic and Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 We have to enjoy this fixture and hope it is worth it, cos we will be without Chelsea action for a fortnight after this. Fucking international break.My team would beAzpi-Cahill-Luiz-Bert----Rami--Mikel-----Willian-Mata--Hazard--------Eto'o-------------Hazard should play again, Willian maintains his spot, he was impressive vs Schalke, Oscar and Schürrle were not. Eto'o is closing in on maximum fitness. With his speed and sharpness back he can be one of the best strikers in the world every once in a while, like Drogba was in the CL winning campaign. Even if Torres is fit, we should not risk him when Eto'o is in form. Mikel has meritted a spot and having the luxury of bringing a fresh Frank Lampard from the bench is always good to have esp if we should need a goal in the last 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Seeing how Oscar a passenger was last game, i would start mata this week end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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