Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I seriously hope these rumors about us going for Mandzukic are a joke. Watching him in our jersey would be worse than watching Torres IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 1st or 2nd choice, Mourinho will give him plenty of football time. And silverware, too, unlike Arsenal, Napoli, Roma. I don't even think those teams will offer him that kind of money in the first place...I don't think so, with Costa around, sir. Agree with silverware, but guaranted first choice striker place is important too for him. Club like Arsenal and Atletico could offer him such thing. Arsenal could do Ozil to Mandzukic (high transfer fee and wage) and Atletico have a great chance too with Costa leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If we're getting £15 million AND a proven striker for a defender that Mourinho clearly doesn't rate, it's good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 How you could you so sure Manzukic don't want to come if club like Arsenal or Atletico calling? Arsenal could do Ozil, Atletico have vacant striker position and they are one of top club now, striker who doesn't want to play for them, should've their head examined.again? weird dude. no rumors. nothing. yet a striker should supposedly get his head examined.I realized this is real life not football manager, that's why I think no player will just accept being a sub. No, you can't just assuming Eto'o - Torres treatment will works the same with Costa - Mandzukic.Eto'o is old and lack of sharpness, no way he is considered main striker at the first place, rotation is a must. Torres is Torres, Jose know we can't rely on him as a main striker, rotation is a must. Rotation between Eto'o - Torres naturally happened, because none are good enough to be our main / first choice striker.Now we have Costa. He is the main striker in Atletico who knocked us out in CL, one draw away to become la liga champion and in the final of CL. I believe Jose promised him the same role in here to convince him. No way he would want to come to Chelsea with rotation role. He will be our main / first choice striker at Chelsea, you like it or not. Any striker who want to join us after we've sign Costa must have accept become a real second choice.we have costa and we have mandzukic who has been the MAIN striker in BAYERN MUNICH, THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD, for 2 years. how will costa be our undisputed no.1. its like going round in circles and then banging your head on the wall. can u give me a list of reasons as to why costa would start 45 matches out of the 60 matches we play next season? jose promised kalas 10 starts at the start of the season, jose promised that luiz and mata were not for sale. jose said that we will have a "quiet" winter transfer window. jose said whu played 19th century football and yet himsel parked the bus. again, this is not FIFA. real life. i am sure jose wont get a message from costa saying "i was promised a larger role than is being given to me".for the last time, these are 2 players with 2 very different strengths and attributes.mandzukic has already thrived in the striker role at a team which has played a system of football very similar to ours. his link up play is brilliant, headers are brilliantcosta is a striker which gives us hold up play. continously bringing his team-mated into the game. runs the channels, and is a brilliant dribbler. but u r right in one thing, costa-mandzukic not comparable to torres-etoo. we will probably have 2 WC strikers compared to a past his prime WC striker and an no-good idiot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 We could move into a similar formation as City with 2-2MarioCostaHazard-WillianOscar/Ramires-Matic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 can u give me a list of reasons as to why costa would start 45 matches out of the 60 matches we play next season? Lol, why not if he stays fit and keep scoring? You mean that we should give 30:30 for Costa and other striker, even if Costa stays fit and on form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1UUd2uttvAanother vid featuring almost all his goals for Bayern. Ironically the video's title is "complete striker" which he as the video shows clearly is not. All of his goals, except 2 are on touch finishes inside the box, the other two he takes 3 touches. He is a poacher. A very good one who can also link the play up, but he still remains a poacher. We could have used a decent one in most of our losses this season, but this does not alter what Mou has said: he wants a striker who offers more than that which is why I can't Mandzu being first choice. Also I don't see why Mario would be better as 2nd choice than Lukaku, who is much stronger anIMd faster and is better on the counter. IMO in a Luiz-Mandzukic swap deal we are the ones who end up on the losing side. Luiz has more class as a player. He can play RB, CB, CDM and CM. Even though he is not worldclass in any, he often perfroms world class in big matches. His performance against PSG home was monstrous, he bullied Arsenal all the way, he was great vs ManCity. also he has a classy guy who is great for the teamspirit. We should not sell a player whose best is yet to come to an CL rival. If we need new strikers, we should secure the first option first. then consider if Lukaku should not be first choice and then look if we buy Mandzukic but do not give Bayern a player we need as much as them but buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I don't think so, with Costa around, sir. Agree with silverware, but guaranted first choice striker place is important too for him. Club like Arsenal and Atletico could offer him such thing. Arsenal could do Ozil to Mandzukic (high transfer fee and wage) and Atletico have a great chance too with Costa leaving.I agree on Arsenal, they will guarantee him a place in the starting line-up, but at the same time I can't see Wenger offering him the same amount of money Chelsea are offering atm. And that aspect will be important for Mandzukic - he is not a youngster anymore, he is 28 and he will be looking for a five-year deal and good money. He knows that's his last chance to a top notch contract, no one will be offering him €6m per annum when he is going to be 30 or 31.As for Atletico, signing a guy who is 28 to be the main CF doesn't sound like the way they are doing business nowadays. Atletico will always be looking for young and proven CFs (Immobile, Damiao the last examples) so that they can cash in big money after some prolific seasons (Torres, Aguero, Falcao, Viero, Diego Costa). Mandzukic will be 29 in 2015, even if he scores 25 goals in La Liga next season, they won't sell him for more than €15m.Money will come first for Mandzukic. Trophies are not something he isn't used to. He is a Champions League winner afterall, every player in this world will think about a long contract and good money when they are near their 30s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Lol, why not if he stays fit and keep scoring? You mean that we should give 30:30 for Costa and other striker, even if Costa stays fit and on form? u do know who costa is, right??? he is not a 5 foot 5, left footed genius playing as a striker for barca. that guy is messi. btw, nice list of reasons of why u think costa should be undisputed no.1 ahead of mandzukic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well if we do sign Mandzukic, I think we should say goodbye to Torres, Ba and Lukaku. Curious with the way we would get rid of Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 u do know who costa is, right??? he is not a 5 foot 5, left footed genius playing as a striker for barca. that guy is messi. btw, nice list of reasons of why u think costa should be undisputed no.1 ahead of mandzukic. 45 games in a season is reasonable numbers in my opinion. I'm like talking with a people from different planet about this. I could see now that we have different perspective. I'm done. And as an information, I will support Mandzukic if we do sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 If we sign 2 players like Costa and Mandzukic, for sure in many games they will play together in the starting eleven (unless one of them is a flop). We will play a lot of games in 442 because they are really good and that way they won't be unconfortable being second choises.In the games we play in 433 they will rotate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Costa - Mandzukic - Torres/Lukaku Would be pretty awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Chelsea have been in contact with Mandzukic's agent & are negotiating with Bayern. A deal could potentially be completed in a few days (Bild)Chelsea are negotiating for Mandzukic and Bayern are in negotiations for David Luiz. The two deals do not depend on one another (Bild)Guardiola wants Chelsea's £30m-rated defender David Luiz and could be willing to agree a compromise deal with Mandzukic (Mail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Speaking of Mandzukic, I suddenly remember this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 So, we can have Costa, Mario, Lukaku and Torres?Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 So, we can have Costa, Mario, Lukaku and Torres?Nice.Having 4 STs in our 1 ST system is unlikely. 1 will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I seriously hope these rumors about us going for Mandzukic are a joke. Watching him in our jersey would be worse than watching Torres IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The thing with Munich is that they had the best fullback play in Europe and the best crosser in Lahm...They also have superior passers in Thiago, Bastian and Kroos.I'm not sure how he will do, however, I rather have him than Dzeko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm I the only one that actually rate his technical ability above Costa's? His link up play and ability on the ball is superior imo.But ofcourse Costa has better hold up play and finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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