lionsden 4,689 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I take strong objection to the implication that Muller isn't much of a 'footballer'. He reads the game better than anyone I've seen.You misunderstood me. I used the Muller reference to highlight Willian's lack of directness and low productivity and How these type of players are more useful and valuable to a team's success than the all show no substance types. I could have used Robben, Ribery,and just about any other productive AM to make that point but Muller is less flashy. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 You misunderstood me. I used the Muller reference to highlight Willian's lack of directness and low productivity and How these type of players are more useful and valuable to a team's success than the all show no substance types. I could have used Robben, Ribery,and just about any other productive AM to make that point but Muller is less flashy.Yeah mate, I realised it after hitting Post. The only place to be and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 willian scored 4 goals 6 assist in 46 appearance with chelsea.....schurrle scored 9 goals 3 assist in 43 appearance , salah scored 4 goals 2 assist in 16 appearance with chelseaWe already know man, Salah is better than Willian, Schurle and Oscar, and must be a starting this season. Stats and Ainsley Harriott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 There is a reason Schrurle and Willian don't score and assist as much as people expect them to do. they're being played out of position because Hazard owns that left wing that every right footed winger likes to play in. players like Schurrle and Willian like to cut in and take shot, especially Schurrle. they're never going to get in dangerous area's when they're playing on the right. the best thing they can do is take a player on and cross the ball hoping for someone like Costa to head it in or tap it.I think Willian is more of a no10, the way he shields the ball is remarkable. probably the best player we have playing with his back behind the goal. he's really agile and powerful when he's on the ball, this is why I like him. still don't know why Oscar owns that no10 role because I think he should play as a cm but thats another story. but it brings us to the problem: willian is not playing in his best position, so don't expect him to score as many as Hazard and Oscar do. the later 2 play in their prefferred positions, Schurrle and Willian don't. killer1257 and Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 http://imgur.com/LMoozHAHad to look twice to recognize Willian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 http://imgur.com/LMoozHAHad to look twice to recognize Willian lolWhy are they taking shower together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 lolWhy are they taking shower together?Team showers bruh. Like in a gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 http://imgur.com/LMoozHAHad to look twice to recognize Willian mystery solved, Hazard talked in pseudo-portuguese with Costa the other day. Still easier than English (except not, but for a native latin-based language maybe yes).And Willian is so damn cute!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeeh 139 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 mystery solved, Hazard talked in pseudo-portuguese with Costa the other day. Still easier than English (except not, but for a native latin-based language maybe yes).And Willian is so damn cute!!!!!!weird!...they taking shower together ! Chelsea? and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 weird!...they taking shower together ! they all take showers together! iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 they all take showers together!Who takes the soap when it slips? Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Who takes the soap when it slips?the reason why there's three bottles FIXED in the wall. I suppose a liquid soap, shampoo and conditioner.Sorry for ruining your joke though Dion, iseah100, The Chels and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 hahaha,,hazard is really funny people. hope it makes more impact of chemistry both of them in the field too....just like Hazard - Mata connection 2 years ago... kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Who takes the soap when it slips?Arsene Wenger TheIceMan and Kunter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Who takes the soap when it slips?That's the question indeed! I guess they take turns! Dion and Sidzeret 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 A happy dressing room is like a 12th man on the pitch ,, seems Luiz has been replaced by Hazard . Could be a future "Wise " guy Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Played a good second half tbh, alot more direct and some exquisite 1 touch passes + a nice long ball to Hazard. Especially the backheel flick for the big chance Oscar had at the end was gorgeous, dunno if many people saw it because it looked like he was tackled. His corners where still bad though. kellzfresh and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Played a good second half tbh, alot more direct and some exquisite 1 touch passes + a nice long ball to Hazard. Especially the backheel flick for the big chance Oscar had at the end was gorgeous, dunno if many people saw it because it looked like he was tackled. His corners where still bad though.Still I think Oscar had a better match. I mean, Willian was good with some better moments. Oscar had more ups and downs, but I think Oscar's ups were better than Willian's better moments, if I make any sense Willian is progressing in a linear way. Horrible first match, good second match, better third match. Oscar is alternating too much within the match and between matches, still trying to find his feet. Which means Willian will probably find his way back to the first team earlier than Oscar - if they don't end up fighting for the same spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Willian > Oscar for #10 stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Still I think Oscar had a better match. I mean, Willian was good with some better moments. Oscar had more ups and downs, but I think Oscar's ups were better than Willian's better moments, if I make any sense Willian is progressing in a linear way. Horrible first match, good second match, better third match. Oscar is alternating too much within the match and between matches, still trying to find his feet. Which means Willian will probably find his way back to the first team earlier than Oscar - if they don't end up fighting for the same spot.I doubt in the end they will be fighting for the same spot. Willian, Oscar and Hazard where all on the field at the beginning of the second half and we had 1 of our best passing games since a very very long time (ofcourse aided by a brilliant Cesc, and a striker that links-up well). I can see Mourinho starting with Ramires or Willian next week instead of Oscar, but i don't see anything wrong with that. Like i said it's going to be a long season, and we can allow Oscar a steady rise back into form with the options we have. I hope we end up adopting our second-half (first 20 minutes) playstyle. We had some nice build-up play coupled with an on point pressing game, but we where trying to be a bit too fancy sometimes (passing another time instead of shooting). Edit: Never mind Ramires starting. He is suspended. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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