Shakez 755 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Elaborate what?Did you even watched Chelsea last 2 seasons? Because if you did you would clearly see Willian is jack s*it compared to what Oscar offered in the 1st season with us. And even last year Willian was astrocious for someone we paid 35 mil. Not even 40% of the guy he was at Shaktar.The fact you say he was wanted by Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham says it all. All those team have won a total of 3-4 trophies in the last 5 years.( I have not checked might be even less than 3-4 trophies)Im tired of all those people who say Oscar needs to leave before Willian. That guy is fucking 26 won't get much better than he is now. While Oscar when on form can create goals out of nothing and will just turn 23 next month.Im not saying Oscar is shit, just that he doesn't have any qualities that really standout. He has a bit of everything, kinda like a jack of all trades (somebody mentioned it also somewhere). As a matter of fact i like Oscar, and he is very much suited to type of game we currently play. Also now that we have Cesc in the team, they can cover each other between defending and attacking thus lessening the burden for Oscar to be creative. The only issue i have with him is that he went completely of the map at the end of last season. When Oscar (also Schürrle and Ramires) are in a bad form it really shows, with Willian and other senior members of the squad (Matic, Terry, Ivanovic) you have a constant line in performances. Willian had some very good games last season (Southampton away, Stoke at home, City away,...), so him beïng jackshit is not true.Anyway, all im hoping is that Oscar and Schürrle can add some concistency to their game and Willian to produce more in the final third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 This is a poor reason. They also shelled out 24 for a 30 year old Eto'o right? Saying so and so paid this much money doesn't automatically prove one player to be better than other. Look at us for example, we paid 50 big ones for Torres.On the topic but, Oscar helps the team and I expect him to start most of he games where we face packed defenses. Unlike Willian, Oscar can have an upward raise on his development chart. Willian will now have a certain consistency to how good he is, and will eventually fall. He'll probably start most games until Oscar replicates his work-rate tooth to tooth.I didn't argue the fact that the prize was warranted, just that he had lot's of suitors wanting to buy him, despite him not beïng a goalscoring machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I didn't argue the fact that the prize was warranted, just that he had lot's of suitors wanting to buy him, despite him not beïng a goalscoring machine.Spurs wanted to play him alongside Erik Lamela, Chadli and Soldado didn't they.Deadly. The best thing about Willian is his workrate, followed by the song we made up about him hating Spurs. £30 million well spent. couris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Can you not insult our players like that? Pfffff, sory dude but look into the Torres thread and than talk about insults to the players! It seems like we can only insult the players which we don't like doesn't matter if they're Chelsea players! sherry33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Pfffff, sory dude but look into the Torres thread and than talk about insults to the players! It seems like we can only insult the players which we don't like doesn't matter if they're Chelsea players!Go ahead and look in the Torres thread, I have defended him. Point is, why would you insult players? They represent this club and do their best. Just have a civilized discussion for who fits better in the new system and has performed better without hurling insults at the players. TheIceMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Go ahead and look in the Torres thread, I have defended him.Point is, why would you insult players? They represent this club and do their best. Just have a civilized discussion for who fits better in the new system and has performed better without hurling insults at the players.That's my point aslo sorry if you felt like I'm attacking you!! But I just used your opinion as an example that If you're such lowlife (no you peronally) to insult and hate and post such discusting things about another human being let alone a Chelsea player which is still Fernando! You must be the scum of the earth and have no life like at all. And another thing which I had in mind from your post is that If it's permited and "cool" to insult Fernando who is a Chelsea player, than it must be ok to insult all the other players which I or somebody else donn't like! iseah100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Some comparison between Willian and Schurrle : 1. Shooting2. Passing3. Defensive workRead the entire article here --> http://chelseaindex.com/950/schurrle-v-willian.html Viper22 and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Has to start over Oscar. He was superb today! stroey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Really hope the injury isn't bad. Put him in instead of Schurrle. Would directly help us against their wingers that excel 1v1. MrBlueGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He deserves to start after this performance imo. Sanctuar and stroey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 great cameo .. both he and ramires took advantage of a tiring opposition Barbara and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Joker10 946 Posted August 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 23, 2014 Has to start over Oscar. He was superb today!Oscar had a better game and didn't face tired defenders. Barbara, The only place to be, TheIceMan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 http://youtu.be/X3XqYlO0NhU Shakez and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 A very good sub to bring on when the opposition are tired. I see him win many games coming off the bench like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 He said he wants to score more and he showed that yesterday, he was far more direct and took shots he normally doesn't. Hope he stays aggressive because with his shooting ability he should be hitting 10-15 goals. kellzfresh, Blue-in-me-Veins, Barbara and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Good to hear he had a nice cameo. Brana, Willian and Ramires are performing well now that they have some competition for their places. zolayes and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 He has a perfect shot, why doesn't he shoot more often. He is one of the few players I ' ve seen who manage to make it hard for the keeper. I can remember 6 shots of his, 2 of which are goals , the others on goal... stroey and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 A very good sub to bring on when the opposition are tired. I see him win many games coming off the bench like that.Willian is more than" a super sub who can beat tired defenders". He's a starter who can beat fresh legs and creates a lot for the team. He's also very good in tracking back and a monster in counter attacks. With him on the pitch, Hazard is even more dangerous because we'll have 2 dribbling maniacs and he can help cesc and matic a lot with his pace to control the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Willian is more than" a super sub who can beat tired defenders". He's a starter who can beat fresh legs and creates a lot for the team. He's also very good in tracking back and a monster in counter attacks. With him on the pitch, Hazard is even more dangerous because we'll have 2 dribbling maniacs and he can help cesc and matic a lot with his pace to control the midfield.I never said he's just a super sub...I don't see him as a definite starter. He will start. Until we're tactically astute, mostly the important games as well. Cesc and Matic don't need pace. They need someone who can help out in ball retention and distribution. If we need a 10 or a defensive winger, Willian plays. Until now we haven't had the need of them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I like this competition between our 5 AM at the moment. So far they are trying hard to fought for their place evey time they given chance. No big names guaranteed, I could see even Hazard could be dropped, if he is under perform, and other playing so well. Well it also means Salah would get his chance too sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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