Eligius 121 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Juan is playing like shit at utd and has been for the entire season and what's your fucking point?willian is still useful on the right side moreso than Juan was and going to be for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's difficult to create when you have no striker in front of you in the first half and a fraud up front in the second, and when we have no pattern to our play if we're not counter attacking.Not to call you out or anything but I remember you having a Torres avatar earlier this year...my point being what a fucking fraud he really is, toying with us with his flashes of form and then turning in shit performance after shit performance yet again...FRAUD. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Not to call you out or anything but I remember you having a Torres avatar earlier this year...my point being what a fucking fraud he really is, toying with us with his flashes of form and then turning in shit performance after shit performance yet again...FRAUD.Yeah, that was to pay homage over his performance against Man City, by far away his best in a CFC shirt. But yeah, dude is the biggest fraud in football right about now. Gets paid £175k a week, cost us £50m... Honestly, stealing a living. Third season in a row where he's filled the fans up with false hope after some decent performances to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He has 2 goals and 1 assist in 20 matches. That's ridiculous for an attacking player who plays for Chelsea. He does everything else so well, but once he gets near the 18 yard box, he looks clueless. He needs to do a lot of work with his incisiveness in the final third if he wants to be considered a top player. MAF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He has 2 goals and 1 assist in 20 matches. That's ridiculous for an attacking player who plays for Chelsea. He does everything else so well, but once he gets near the 18 yard box, he looks clueless. He needs to do a lot of work with his incisiveness in the final third if he wants to be considered a top player.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He has 2 goals and 1 assist in 20 matches. That's ridiculous for an attacking player who plays for Chelsea. He does everything else so well, but once he gets near the 18 yard box, he looks clueless. He needs to do a lot of work with his incisiveness in the final third if he wants to be considered a top player.Whilst I agree with what you say he does need to up his game. On the other hand I also feel his work rate and pressing goes UN-noticed to many a follower of Chelsea. I was at the Bridge some weeks ago and was given the task of choosing one player to watch for the club team I run as an assessment on one player, I chose Willian. I can honestly say I was blown away with his energy off the ball and his ability to close down and pressure an opponent.This is his first full season and his game has changed dramatically since he was at Shaktar Donetsk. He was never asked to track back, pressure, close down or work to the rate he has done here. Jose is making him a different players to what he wants for the team. Mohammed Seif, LAB and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 His workrate is insane, but the fact is we could of got someone to press and track back for about 3 million, not 30. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius 121 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Di Maria went from a headless chicken under Mourinho to arguably the best player at Real this season (at least most consistent).Look how great our Juan Mata was when he was deployed as the rw under Mourinho.. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 £30m for a player because he played well against us. Jesus fucking Christ.Di Maria could have been got for the same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Di Maria went from a headless chicken under Mourinho to arguably the best player at Real this season (at least most consistent).Look how great our Juan Mata was when he was deployed as the rw under Mourinho.. You're joking right? Di Maria is miles better than Willian. duo11bluecl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Jose kind of player, he'll come good next season. Mohammed Seif and LAB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 4, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 4, 2014 Jose kind of player, he'll come good next season.Problem being is he has already been wrote off. No second season, no second chances he is just shit, simple as.This forum is getting worse and worse with knee-jerk reaction I am sure of it. Badboy, pHaRaOn, hjperdeath and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Problem being is he has already been wrote off. No second season, no second chances he is just shit, simple as.This forum is getting worse and worse with knee-jerk reaction I am sure of it.Most often I'd agree with you ("he sucks" after 3 games and other such idiocy) but the fact is that there's no way Willian will ever live up to his price tag. He just isn't an elite player and we paid an elite price to get him. He's also not 19, he's an established player of 25. He is who he is. He works hard, has incredible speed and stamina all of which Mourinho really values but...he has 2 goals in 37 games as an attacking player which is just awful. He also doesn't create a lot of chances for other players. He's a good player and a good fit for what Mourinho wants to do but not worth nearly what we paid for him. Esam, Sir Mikel OBE, Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 He's a good player and a good fit for what Mourinho wants to do but not worth nearly what we paid for him. Everyone knew the price was high, but the sentence above is exactly what I have been saying. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 We definitely overpaid by about £10m for him, but at the same time our attacking system is marginalising him in the final third.He's never been a "stats" player anyway, just look at his stats at Shakhtar or his stats in Brazil. His role in attack is the assist before the assist. Mohammed Seif and Svita 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The thing is barring his so called lack of goals he has nigh on everything else, so if he starts adding goals what will people say then?Will he be the complete player? I think he will be, he does everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 His workrate is insane, but the fact is we could of got someone to press and track back for about 3 million, not 30.pressing and tracking back are different matters compared with stealing the ball. stealing required more concentration and technique and willian is good at that. or maybe he can be the reversed version of gareth bale, putting him on wing back position and let his coverage ability create havoc on opponents wing side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The thing is barring his so called lack of goals he has nigh on everything else, so if he starts adding goals what will people say then?Will he be the complete player? I think he will be, he does everything else.assists? incisiveness in the final third? it's not just goals. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What have you to say about him today?He's been immaculate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What have you to say about him today?He's been immaculate Great work and it shows that he can actually finish. Just that it doesn't happen often enough, once he got that part right he will be worth £30m like we paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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