🇧🇷 Willian

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

When I saw that Willian wasn't included my belief we might win fell a notch. Like all of us I thought it must be a fitness issue. When the commentator said that apparently he was not injured however, I immediately thought conflict of interest. This view was reinforced very shortly afterward when Danny Murphy said that he had heard from a very good source that Willian's future had been resolved and hinted he would be leaving for another Premier League team. The dots fell into line..

If he's moving to Arsenal then asking him to contribute to eliminating them from Europe is asking him to act against his own interests. No Europe next season would damage Willian's sporting interests, and as his earning power. If this is the reason he missed yesterday, I suppose we'll have to wait for someone to write a book before we know if it was Frank, the club or the player himself, who didn't want Willian involved under those circumstances.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

20 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

When I saw that Willian wasn't included my belief we might win fell a notch. Like all of us I thought it must be a fitness issue. When the commentator said that apparently he was not injured however, I immediately thought conflict of interest. This view was reinforced very shortly afterward when Danny Murphy said that he had heard from a very good source that Willian's future had been resolved and hinted he would be leaving for another Premier League team. The dots fell into line..

If he's moving to Arsenal then asking him to contribute to eliminating them from Europe is asking him to act against his own interests. No Europe next season would damage Willian's sporting interests, and as his earning power. If this is the reason he missed yesterday, I suppose we'll have to wait for someone to write a book before we know if it was Frank, the club or the player himself, who didn't want Willian involved under those circumstances.

Willian himself admitted before the game that he's still in pain so that's the reason why he wasn't playing.

[SUNZ 155]

On 29/07/2020 at 4:22 PM, NikkiCFC said:

 

Uh oh.

[Jase 43,479]

I see we are entering the conspiracy theory zone with Willian...

[1chelsea 864]

Send him a way or he should be third if he agreed he can stay

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

When I saw that Willian wasn't included my belief we might win fell a notch. Like all of us I thought it must be a fitness issue. When the commentator said that apparently he was not injured however, I immediately thought conflict of interest. This view was reinforced very shortly afterward when Danny Murphy said that he had heard from a very good source that Willian's future had been resolved and hinted he would be leaving for another Premier League team. The dots fell into line..

If he's moving to Arsenal then asking him to contribute to eliminating them from Europe is asking him to act against his own interests. No Europe next season would damage Willian's sporting interests, and as his earning power. If this is the reason he missed yesterday, I suppose we'll have to wait for someone to write a book before we know if it was Frank, the club or the player himself, who didn't want Willian involved under those circumstances.

Lampard said after the game that he pulled up in training on Friday. That's all we can base it on for now.

If that theory was true however, I would be disappointed that Willian couldn't be trusted to put everything in for Chelsea. After all, there is a trophy and medal opportunity to add to his collection. One which at his stage of his career, may not present itself again.

I can remember us agreeing to sell Brian Laudrup to Copenhagen before playing them in Europe and he still played and scored the goal to knock them out. In my opinion you give your all for your team that you are contracted to, no matter the circumstances. There are no excuses for anything less.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

2 hours ago, pHaRaOn said:

Willian himself admitted before the game that he's still in pain so that's the reason why he wasn't playing.

It's pretty certain that injury would be the cover story agreed upon by all parties but neither the commentator nor Danny Murphy are prone to hyperbole. The commentator would not have said what he said without reason, and no way at all would Murphy claim to have a good source if he did not.

The injury tale is a good one because it could be true that Willian felt pain, without that pain being sufficient reason to miss the game. The comment could therefore be accurate,  while still hiding the real reason for the player's absence.

I do not believe that the commentator was mistaken or misinformed.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

39 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Lampard said after the game that he pulled up in training on Friday. That's all we can base it on for now.

If that theory was true however, I would be disappointed that Willian couldn't be trusted to put everything in for Chelsea. After all, there is a trophy and medal opportunity to add to his collection. One which at his stage of his career, may not present itself again.

I can remember us agreeing to sell Brian Laudrup to Copenhagen before playing them in Europe and he still played and scored the goal to knock them out. In my opinion you give your all for your team that you are contracted to, no matter the circumstances. There are no excuses for anything less.

I'd forgotten that Brian Laudrup situation. In fact, whole years go by when I don't remember he played for us at all. 🙂

On this occasion I trust the commentator more than I trust the injury excuse. My speculation for the real reason may not be accurate but, until I hear something which convinces me to change my mind about the the injury claim, I'm afraid I simply don't believe it.

[NikkiCFC 8,323]

With new teammates yesterday.

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Hope so.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[DDA 9,941]

Can't believe I'm actually hoping he stays for another season. 

I hope Ziyech changes this because settling for Willian as your 1st team RW shows where we are at as a club right now.

[communicate 2,703]

21 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Lampard said after the game that he pulled up in training on Friday. That's all we can base it on for now.

If that theory was true however, I would be disappointed that Willian couldn't be trusted to put everything in for Chelsea. After all, there is a trophy and medal opportunity to add to his collection. One which at his stage of his career, may not present itself again.

I can remember us agreeing to sell Brian Laudrup to Copenhagen before playing them in Europe and he still played and scored the goal to knock them out. In my opinion you give your all for your team that you are contracted to, no matter the circumstances. There are no excuses for anything less.

Imagine if Lamp force Willian to play and Lamp need to make 3 sub for injury. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Jase 43,479]

Also on Guardian...

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Goodbye, and thanks.

[killer1257 3,282]

So some good news

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[Jase 43,479]

@Tomo Thoughts on "letting" Willian go to Arsenal? 

Good move or will come to regret it?

[Tomo 21,751]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

@Tomo Thoughts on "letting" Willian go to Arsenal? 

Good move or will come to regret it?

Could miss him in the short term due to Pulisic's injury and the new boys possibly needing time to bed in, would have been a useful bit of stability in a sea of change. However if he's holding out for 3 years then there's not really much we can do, would be far too risky a deal at his age.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Again, the short turnaround from season finish until start is so short, deals in and out will be done rapidly from now on.

Even the teams who are left playing for stuff will have agreements in place in principle to conduct their deals.

It will be also interesting to see if Brentford go up when they play Fulham tomorrow, if they don't I can see us going for Benhrama.