Tomo 21,751 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Beigl said: Would be utter nonsense if we transfer yet another player to Manchester. I honestly wouldn't care. Will be annoying for the first few weeks while the media and United fans make out he's Ronaldinho reborn and bring him up every time Hazard and Pedro get dispossessed, but the crux of the matter is United will be throwing silly money at yet another Chelsea player who's best days are in the past, he's been our 3rd choice winger under Conte for a reason. It's a shame Woodward wasn't running transfers at United around 2011 time, we could have palmed Alex, Essien, Malouda, Anelka and Kalou on them for obscene cash. Mufassir08, The Skipper and the wes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just sell him for bucket loads if he wants out, we would be better going for someone like Richarlison, he's offer much more than Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Willian for Mata and Shaw. Win-win deal for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, !Hazard! said: Willian for Mata and Shaw. Win-win deal for everyone No thanks, Mata isn't even half the player he was in 2012 and even that version would struggle for games under Conte. the wes, nachikethas and communicate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, Tomo said: No thanks, Mata isn't even half the player he was in 2012 and even that version would struggle for games under Conte. Where would Mata even play in this formation? My best guess would be in Cesc's place in a 3-5-2, but even there I would rather Drinkwater than him, not because he's a better player but because he fits better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said: Where would Mata even play in this formation? My best guess would be in Cesc's place in a 3-5-2, but even there I would rather Drinkwater than him, not because he's a better player but because he fits better. The only place you could even think maybe is if we reverted to 3412 and he was Hazard's back up behind the strikers, but even if we did that hypothetical formation change i'd rather give that spot to Ruben when he returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, !Hazard! said: Willian for Mata and Shaw. Win-win deal for everyone I say we chuck them £40m + Willian in return for Shaw and Martial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 God yes. If we could take a promising player from them for Willian it wouldn't even matter if we received money. We'd simply contribute to their continual downfall even more, which is worth at least 100m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Willian is speedy and he also scores crucial goals. I believe the best use of Willian is to send him down the wing and instruct him to run away from his marksmen by as much as he can. This will make a dart out of him - he is better than Zappa in that respect or Alonso. When Willian is used in the midfield he tries the best he can but he loses the person to person fights, because he is not big. Also many times he becomes a source of danger when he loses the ball. If my "Willian system" is of any use then that's his role. Otherwise we should look forward to give him to some other club - a foreign one preferably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I say we chuck them £40m + Willian in return for Shaw and Martial. That would be great business but can't see the latter leaving. We should be going for Shaw once again, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 3:05 PM, Jason said: Sorry to say this but Ray Wilkins is a complete idiot! yes its surprising that he was so well thought of as our assistant - every time he opens his mouth about chelsea, he just sounds like an ignorant fan with little knowledge about football the wes and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 8:27 AM, CHOULO19 said: Ahead of Essien and Ballack That's your issue?  10 years ago Robben was at Real Makelele was in his last season at Chelsea Carvalho was past his best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 3:38 AM, !Hazard! said: Willian for Mata and Shaw. Win-win deal for everyone Why bother? Mata and Shaw will be free agents next summer. Can start approaching them in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Sources close to Willian hint he’ll leave if Antonio Conte remains manager http://sportwitness.co.uk/sources-close-chelsea-star-hint-hell-leave-antonio-conte-remains-manager/ blues.bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy 439 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, the wes said: Sources close to Willian hint he’ll leave if Antonio Conte remains manager http://sportwitness.co.uk/sources-close-chelsea-star-hint-hell-leave-antonio-conte-remains-manager/ If nothing else hope Conte stays just to see this guy go. Imagine United with so many limited players like Matic, Willian, Lukaku beautiful. blues.bridge, Tomo and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Ok Willian don't let the door hit you on the way out mate. And take David Luiz with you, too. Work rate merchant still living on the glory of those 2015/16 free kicks. To be honest I think Conte shows him enough respect by still considering him as an attacking player - His stats and his general play as an attacking player makes the likes of Lingard and Mikhtaryan look like world beaters. Wish United would come for him. Not only it will prevent them from signing and actual decent winger, but they'd be stuck with low footballing IQ players all over the pitch (Lukaku, Matic, Willian first to come in mind.) blues.bridge and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said: Ok Willian don't let the door hit you on the way out mate. And take David Luiz with you, too. Work rate merchant still living on the glory of those 2015/16 free kicks. To be honest I think Conte shows him enough respect by still considering him as an attacking player - His stats and his general play as an attacking player makes the likes of Lingard and Mikhtaryan look like world beaters. Wish United would come for him. Not only it will prevent them from signing and actual decent winger, but they'd be stuck with low footballing IQ players all over the pitch (Lukaku, Matic, Willian first to come in mind.) You just know pundits will bring his name up everytime Hazard and Pedro aren't at their best Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 10 hours ago, Jason said: Why bother? Mata and Shaw will be free agents next summer. Can start approaching them in January. As far as I know that provision only applies to transfers between leagues. Premier League teams are not permitted to contact each other’s players without the permission of the player’s existing club until contracts are fully expired. That certainly is how the rule used to be, and I am not aware that it has changed. The Skipper and Blue Colored Sky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: As far as I know that provision only applies to transfers between leagues. Premier League teams are not permitted to contact each other’s players without the permission of the player’s existing club until contracts are fully expired. That certainly is how the rule used to be, and I am not aware that it has changed. It still applies to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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