Marco van Ginkel

[OhForAGreavsie 5,776]

On 02/02/2016 at 11:04 AM, mccg said:

Think it would be best for both parties to sell him and move on,lets get the loan army down to a max of 22.Hopefully Chelsea bring in a world class cm in the summer...again!

Agreed re Marko, however I'm more supportive of the loan army policy than many seem to be. Twenty-two looks a reasonable enough number to set as a maximum size for the army but I'd prefer to control its numbers in a different way if possible. I'd like us to be completely honest with ourselves, as well as with the young man himself, as soon as a player's Chelsea chances are gone. Once that decision is made a move should be found for him as soon as possible. If a quicker turnover is achieved it will improve the chance that we'll get enough people into the system to find more successes.

I say we should do this if possible because wages and contracts will impact when and if a new permanent club can be found of course. It would be nice to think we could make this easier by gradually reducing the value of the contracts we offer to loan army recruits in the first place. This may not be realistic however.

[mccg 1,528]

4 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Agreed re Marko, however I'm more supportive of the loan army policy than many seem to be. Twenty-two looks a reasonable enough number to set as a maximum size for the army but I'd prefer to control its numbers in a different way if possible. I'd like us to be completely honest with ourselves, as well as with the young man himself, as soon as a player's Chelsea chances are gone. Once that decision is made a move should be found for him as soon as possible. If a quicker turnover is achieved it will improve the chance that we'll get enough people into the system to find more successes.

I say we should do this if possible because wages and contracts will impact when and if a new permanent club can be found of course. It would be nice to think we could make this easier by gradually reducing the value of the contracts we offer to loan army recruits in the first place. This may not be realistic however.

Yeah agree, i would slip in a buyback clause if in doubt with some players ,but in essence i'd like to see the loan army cut,make some money on the 1's that are not going to make it and evolve the system so we actually get more Chelsea players!This summer looks good as anytime to start imho.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

I never know why Chelsea bought him when they had perfectly good Chalobah after his best loan spell at Watford.

Blocking path of their own young player with slightly more established youngster, why do this ? And Marco Van Ginkel never was a super talent to explain this.

But Chelsea like to do this. Similar with Kenedy when they have Boga, Musonda and Traore and now with Miazga when they have Christansen.

[mccg 1,528]

6 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

I never know why Chelsea bought him when they had perfectly good Chalobah after his best loan spell at Watford.

Blocking path of their own young player with slightly more established youngster, why do this ? And Marco Van Ginkel never was a super talent to explain this.

But Chelsea like to do this. Similar with Kenedy when they have Boga, Musonda and Traore and now with Miazga when they have Christansen.

Jose signing , injury probly screwed him!

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

He's looking decent tonight in the first half against AM

[mccg 1,528]

5 goals in 11games for Psv,wants to stay there,think we should grant his wish,hopefully get close to what we paid for him and move on,clear alot of loaness out that are not going to be starters and give the next level of youth the chance to impress.

[Special Juan 27,111]

Let him stay there, fetch decent money and spend it on much better quality players.

[bluesman2610 1,251]

 

https://youtu.be/8ZRxQfVCX7U

goals vs AZ - free kick was very nice

[nyikolajevics 2,455]

Scored today again, he has 6 goals in 9 matches in the Eredivisie. Recalling him from Stoke was a good pick.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Good. Might get back the initial investment we made in him and maybe even make a small profit! 

[lucio 5,418]

did his injuries even cost him speed or mobility? looks as good as ever to me, but he was never particuarly impressive.

[mccg 1,528]

On 04/10/2016 at 9:16 AM, CHOULO19 said:

Good. Might get back the initial investment we made in him and maybe even make a small profit! 

Hope so then Remy,Moses,Marin,Omeruo,Atsu,Bamford, plus afew other loanees and some other squad players and the rebuild starts!

[the wes 7,212]

Pick it out son!!!

[mccg 1,528]

37 minutes ago, the wes said:

Pick it out son!!!

He is showing some of what Jose&Cfc saw all those years ago before his horror injury,Probly his level now,get close to 8m and we move on with a truly world class cm or 2+others

[Yeboii 1,844]

4 hours ago, mccg said:

He is showing some of what Jose&Cfc saw all those years ago before his horror injury,Probly his level now,get close to 8m and we move on with a truly world class cm or 2+others

True. Such a shame, as he was one of the very few young players José liked a lot.

[King11Didier 916]

Wulfert is enjoyoing his spell at PSV and I'm sure they will at least try to sign him permanently and it won't be so bad for us in financial point of view. He tried the live in a big club, but I think he saw it's not for him. The best thing for everyone will be to stay in Netherlands and become an important part for some team.

[Captain Ahmed 528]

Steps Up: Marco van Ginkel
 

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The Dutch Eredivisie season reaches its climax on Sunday afternoon when our own Marco van Ginkel will be hoping to help PSV Eindhoven pip Ajax to the title.The two teams are level on points going into the final game of the season but it is Ajax who lead the way on goal difference. PSV travel to Zwolle while Ajax are at De Graafschap.  Ahead of the decisive weekend in his native Holland, we caught up with Van Ginkel. The 23-year-old is approaching the end of a thoroughly successful spell at PSV, who he joined on loan at the end of the winter transfer window. He spent the first half of the 2015/16 campaign gaining valuable Premier League experience with Stoke, and, as he explains, it's been an important season in his development…

First of all Marco, how’s everything going in Holland?

It’s all good thanks. I’m close to my family and close to my friends which is always nice. The club is cool with lots of nice people around so I am enjoying it.At the moment we are level on points with Ajax with one game left. It’s very exciting. Hopefully they drop some points because their goal difference is a bit better.

You played every minute of PSV’s epic Champions League tie with Atletico Madrid, only narrowly losing out on penalties to a team that has now reached the final…

It was a nice experience. I played once in the Champions League for Chelsea, against Basel. These games were the last 16, so big games, and I think we did very well against one of the top teams in Europe. As you can see even now they are still in the tournament and winning games against teams like Barcelona and Bayern Munich. We lost on penalties which was obviously a disappointment but in the end we could be proud of how we did.

Normally Chelsea are playing a lot of games in the Champions League and other important games where there is pressure to win so as a young player it was good to play in those big games.

You scored twice last weekend meaning you now have eight goals in 14 games since your move to Holland. What’s been the secret?

At the moment I am playing a little bit further forward than I have played with my previous clubs and I can get in front of the goal more. That’s what I like, to score goals and be important for the team.

And you have taken and scored a couple of high-pressure shoot-out penalties too recently, one for Stoke at Anfield and then against Atletico…

I remember I took one in pre-season for Stoke which I missed so there was a bit of pressure of course in the semi-finals of the League Cup against Liverpool. I took the sixth penalty so if you miss then you know it will be a big mess! But I scored and that was a good feeling.Then against Atletico I chose to take the first one and I scored again and all the pressure went on to the other players! 

What was your time with Stoke like?

It was good, especially at the beginning when I played a lot. Playing in the Premier League every week makes you really feel how high the levels are.

And in the March internationals you had the chance to play for Holland against England at Wembley too…

I remember the last time I played for Holland was before my knee injury at Chelsea so it was already three years ago. If you play in Holland you’re a little bit more in the picture for the Dutch people and the Dutch coach, and there were some injuries so he picked me and I had some playing time as well. It was nice.

And finally Marco, there was sad news a few days before that game when the great Johan Cruyff passed away. Was he someone you looked up to growing up?

He was one of the most important guys for football in Holland. When he died you could see all over the world people lived with him and his family. I could imagine that but when he died I saw just how important he was for football in general, for the Dutch team and for Barcelona too.I didn’t see a lot of videos of him playing but I had the chance to meet him. I was named Talent of the Year in Holland in 2013 and every year the winner of that award, called the Johan Cruyff Trophy, gets a ‘Cruyff Court’, a little pitch for kids to play. He opened it with Javier Zanetti and some other important guys in Italy when I was playing for AC Milan.  

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[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Marco van Ginkel and PSV have just won The DUTCH PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE

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#28 Marco van Ginkel

http://www.transfermarkt.com/marco-van-ginkel/profil/spieler/147034

 

12 APPEARANCES

8 GOALS

1 ASSIST

135 MINUTES PER GOAL

1,080 PLAYED MINUTES