The Rising Sun 711 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Was disappointing yesterday, but it is pre season. However, in saying that, alot of other youngsters were also in early pre season and looked spectacular.Needs to show more as pre season goes on.Convenient passes and uninventive play are not longer passable even as a defensive midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looked a bit nervous, especially at the start, but played a couple of gorgeous diagonal balls. My heart skipped a beat when that guy went through him from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looked a bit nervous, especially at the start, but played a couple of gorgeous diagonal balls. He showed yestarday that he has got that passing range in his locker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 He showed yestarday that he has got that passing range in his locker.Yeah, even Oriol played a couple of great long balls including the one for the first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 He showed yestarday that he has got that passing range in his locker.Passing range only counts if most/some of those passes are accurate. I can't remember him completing any of his long passes. In that regard the difference between Pirlo and ramires is the passing accuracy as anyone can hit a long pass technically, the difficult part is picking out a teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Passing range only counts if most/some of those passes are accurate. I can't remember him completing any of his long passes. In that regard the difference between Pirlo and ramires is the passing accuracy as anyone can hit a long pass technically, the difficult part is picking out a teammate.IIRC his passes did reach his intended targets hence the praise from me and Choulo. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 After watching how an 8 month injury turned Kaka, who was the Ballon D'or at the time, into a less than average player, I'm always nervous when I see one of the players I like stay away from football for such a long time... I really hope van Ginkel will prove his talent is all still there soon, otherwise I'll be very worried... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I wonder if it's Mou's orders, or his injury making him play a more restricted role. I can't remember many times he's been near the opposition area this preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 After watching how an 8 month injury turned Kaka, who was the Ballon D'or at the time, into a less than average player, I'm always nervous when I see one of the players I like stay away from football for such a long time... I really hope van Ginkel will prove his talent is all still there soon, otherwise I'll be very worried...Young players like him can get over injuries more often.. Azpi had a serious knee injury when he played for Marseille and he is great now. Jovetic suffered two injuries to his cruciate ligament before he turned 22 but later he was outstanding in Italy.Let's just hope the best. Wulfert worked very hard to come back, he seems to be a big fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I wonder if it's Mou's orders, or his injury making him play a more restricted role. I can't remember many times he's been near the opposition area this preseason.Definitely Mourinho's orders, and just the general set up of the team. Mourinho wanted to provide a solid foundation because we had a lot of inexperience up front in pre season, hence why MVG wasn't really allowed to venture forward too much. Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The personal battle between him and Oscar for the 3rd midfield spot will be fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If you gave me a choice I'd honestly take MarcoT Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If you gave me a choice I'd honestly take MarcoTIt depends whether Marco is also a good at going forward because til now he did not much for the attack and as a box to box player you should also be attacking minded.At Vitesse he was also an attacking minded player,but Marco is now a too defensive.Marco should show some creativity,dribblings and maybe some shots.That is not enough for me. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looked decent again today, didnt know he took decent set pieces too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted July 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 27, 2014 Another solid display by him.He was very good tackling - as usual, only looked a bit flustered once as far as I remember, and took some nice set-pieces.I really hope he continues to shine in the pre-season. We need him to erase Ramires from Mourinho's mind. He doesn't have the same pace and stamina, but he's fast nonetheless and he's resilient enough, he can endure the matches.A pivot with him and Matic is great, and he can also play in the 4-3-3 midfield alongside Cesc and Matic - with Cesc as the most advanced midfielder. I want to see this boy getting some matches. We need to continue his development, he has a lot of potential and I can't for the life of me see why we'd need to sign another MD (CM, DM, B2B, DLP) at all. We're balanced as it is. Oriol was also very solid today so we have them, and Ramires and Mikel (we could easily offload Mikel tbh, sorry Chou Chou). So if Oscar goes off again this season we have better options than simply throwing Ramires in the wing and moving Willian to the middle. Cesc can play Oscar's position and Marco can play Cesc's. Actually I think both Oscar and especially Willian will have to step up big time to keep their places in the team or even be relevant, as Schurrle ended the season (with us and the WC) in a high and Hazard is Hazard.He's young and he has the kind of personality José simply loves (which is one of the reason why I believe DD is back). He's fearless, he's always highly motivated and I think he might even have that thirsty to win within him.LuÃs said we'd never see him walking in the pitch, but always running and I believe it to also be true about this lad. I'm very happy with him and I'm looking forward to him staying here a long, long time. dee25, mediator, kellzfresh and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looked good today but some of his tackles are dangerous. He's not quite Paul Scholes and most can be put down to over-exuberance but there was one today where he went through the back of one of their players with no chance of getting the ball. Needs to just relax a bit because he's a solid midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looked good today but some of his tackles are dangerous. He's not quite Paul Scholes and most can be put down to over-exuberance but there was one today where he went through the back of one of their players with no chance of getting the ball. Needs to just relax a bit because he's a solid midfielder.I think he is doing that because he is coming back from a long lay-off and is just keen to impress the manager and send him the message that he is not only mentally ready to be a part of the squad but he's also physically ready. Reddish-Blue, BleedsBlue, ulsterchelsea and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think he is doing that because he is coming back from a long lay-off and is just keen to impress the manager and send him the message that he is not only mentally ready to be a part of the squad but he's also physically ready.I remember he was doing it before his injury as well though. I think he just loves to tackle! Barbara, OneMoSalah and The only place to be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I think he is doing that because he is coming back from a long lay-off and is just keen to impress the manager and send him the message that he is not only mentally ready to be a part of the squad but he's also physically ready.It's not something new to his game. I remember him doing the same thing in his first CL start for us and I'm pretty sure he got booked for it. He's very willing to go to the ground and some of his attempts are absolutely ridiculous, they're dangerous and if it was Ramires then they'd probably get more attention. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 LOVE this kid. He's right out of the Lampard/Gerrard school of midfielders. Barbara, lucio, Blue-in-me-Veins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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