Antoine Griezmann

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Here is my two cents on Griezmann - While I think he's a wonderful player with a real knack for scoring goals, my feeling says he's taylor made for one tactic in particular and a certain manager. And that's Diego Simeone and his modern 4-4-2.  

He's a number 9.5 as managers like to refer to this type of player - not a number 10, but not a number 9 either. Can't be a playmaker and can't play as a lone center forward. He's a shadow striker, a false 10. 

Bergkamp had the same role under Wenger's 4-4-2 if you remember. Henry the center forward, Bergkamp 9.5 (false 10), Pires - Ljunberg wide midfielders and the pivot Vieira & Gilberto

Roberto Baggio had the same role as well while playing under Arrigo Sacchi's trade mark 4-4-2 in WC 1994 - Donadoni and Berti wide midfielders, Massaro/Casiraghi the lone forward and Baggio number 9.5.

I think Griezmann is similar to those players and would not be that effective on the wing, or as an attacking midfielder, or a lone center forward. He's made to play in a tactic with two strikers and under a manager that fully believes in his ability and knows how to get the best of him. 

Not an easy player to work with though. There's not a lot of managers that can get the best out of him.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

8 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Here is my two cents on Griezmann - While I think he's a wonderful player with a real knack for scoring goals, my feeling says he's taylor made for one tactic in particular and a certain manager. And that's Diego Simeone and his modern 4-4-2.  

He's a number 9.5 as managers like to refer to this type of player - not a number 10, but not a number 9 either. Can't be a playmaker and can't play as a lone center forward. He's a shadow striker, a false 10. 

Bergkamp had the same role under Wenger's 4-4-2 if you remember. Henry the center forward, Bergkamp 9.5 (false 10), Pires - Ljunberg wide midfielders and the pivot Vieira & Gilberto

Roberto Baggio had the same role as well while playing under Arrigo Sacchi's trade mark 4-4-2 in WC 1994 - Donadoni and Berti wide midfielders, Massaro/Casiraghi the lone forward and Baggio number 9.5.

I think Griezmann is similar to those players and would not be that effective on the wing, or as an attacking midfielder, or a lone center forward. He's made to play in a tactic with two strikers and under a manager that fully believes in his ability and knows how to get the best of him. 

Not an easy player to work with though. There's not a lot of managers that can get the best out of him.

You are forgetting that even in his best role, Griz probably wouldnt cut it in PL. He is too lightweight and small and unlike Aguero Sanchez or Hazard, he doesnt have such great balance and holdup either. IMO he is perfect for la liga and if he wants to get most of his talent he should either stay in spain or go to Bayern.

[Spike 12,049]

The physicality of the Premier League has to be one of the most stupid misconceptions I've ever come across. A player of any height or weight can exceed in the PL, it's just a question or not they can handle the somewhat colder conditions, lack of winter break and the higher tempo. That is the difference in 'physicality' not size.

He averages like 80% of passes, his hold up is fine. 

Absolute fucking nonsense that a player the size of Griezmann couldn't handle England. He is taller and heavier than players like Hazard, Silva, Willian and those other short manlets. He is fine.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Ryiad Mahrez weighs 62 kg, lol. And he handles this league, well he is best player at the moment. (He is the same height as Oscar and even lighter than him)

 

[11Drogba 2,000]

He looks weak but he is not.

 

[DANILA 290]

His legs are so skinny I think it's only a matter of time until a solid tackle takes him out completely

[Leif 6,006]

the explanation of him being a 9.5 are so spot on that it made my morning

Spoiler

(I didn't have a long morning)

i also think he's made to fit Atletico and few other teams

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

8 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

You are forgetting that even in his best role, Griz probably wouldnt cut it in PL. He is too lightweight and small and unlike Aguero Sanchez or Hazard, he doesnt have such great balance and holdup either. IMO he is perfect for la liga and if he wants to get most of his talent he should either stay in spain or go to Bayern.

Spike hit all the right spots in his comment. Griezmann would do just fine in EPL IMHO. 

Tune into Liverpool's next match and watch Roberto Firmino closely. Believe me, it's been years since EPL has not had such a pussy of a football player. He's like a ballerina, never goes into a tackle, always runs from every contact like he is a fucking fashion model and his legs must be shaved and clean from any scratch all the time. If this guy can cut it here, Griezmann will have no problems. 

And trust me, there's a lot of physicality in training with Diego Simeone. Luciano Vietto couldn't handle his training methods at first, always threw up after every session.

[Henrique 9,133]

On 12/14/2015 at 2:56 PM, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Racist.

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Troll face was needless, because that comment actually was.

[Pizy 17,860]

Even if we want him and he wanted to leave I wonder what it would take to buy him. £50m?

Unless we get Simeone and he tells the board that he really wants him.

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are clear to complete the transfer of Antoine Griezmann as the forward rejects a new deal at Atletico Madrid, according to reports in Spain.

 http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/09/rumour-chelsea-clear-to-complete-antoine-griezmann-transfer-as-he-rejects-new-deal-5743250/#ixzz42VldCkjj

[TheIceMan 596]

I trust more Young Metro Boomin than the Metro!!!

[Leif 6,006]

there is literally not 1 thing we have to offer him to make him want to come here. every other top club can match our wages these days. 

[Leif 6,006]

I hope he surprises everyone and goes to Wolfsburg 

[Cosmin 2,484]

18 hours ago, TheIceMan said:

I trust more Young Metro Boomin than the Metro!!!

But if Young Metro don't trust you...

[TheIceMan 596]

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

But if Young Metro don't trust you...

Future is gonna shoot me!!! I know such a bummer! So I will do erything to gain theire trust!!!

[Mustafa 885]

On 3/10/2016 at 4:27 AM, Cosmin said:

But if Young Metro don't trust you...

 

On 3/10/2016 at 6:42 AM, TheIceMan said:

Future is gonna shoot me!!! I know such a bummer! So I will do erything to gain theire trust!!!

 

lmaooo Future is really taking over if Young Metro's trust is being discussed 57 pages into an Antoine Griezmann transfer talk thread on TC  

[TheIceMan 596]

6 hours ago, Mustafa said:

 

 

lmaooo Future is really taking over if Young Metro's trust is being discussed 57 pages into an Antoine Griezmann transfer talk thread on TC  

So, someone delete the posts!!!