Bytek 79 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 just a random fan that i think is right.I see, well, I hope he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm not one to post fantasy XIs but a 4-4-2 with Anton Greasyman and Diego Costa up front would be... Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Didn't Jose say he was interested in Cesc?Yep. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/05/jose-mourinho-cesc-fabregas-chelsea-barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 This time, he doesn't have a reason to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Why did he need to lie in the Cesc situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In Atletico I saw him mainly as a 2nd striker and he didn't played the ball a lot, the same happend for France yesterday when he plays RW. I can see why Mourinho won't go for this, not a ball playing winger, his profile is of a striker more than anything. Could see him being a success here though, with Cesc looking for his run, and him finishing plays when we're trying to break a parked bus, but 60m it's a lot to pay for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In the current market state, 60 Millions for Griezmann is just a bit high, I'd say 45 tops, but if we really want him we have no choice. Anyways, José said yesterday that the main objective is to strenghten the squad, not bringing starting 11 players because we already have enough quality for that, and I agree with him, it oubviously depends on how Oscar will play but Willian-Oscar-Hazard when fit and fresh is top class offense.All we need is rotation players to keep them fresh, that's what Shuerrle and Salah failed to do, Cuadrado looked really good in the last game against Sunderland and the one with the Colombia, so we'll have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In the current market state, 60 Millions for Griezmann is just a bit high, I'd say 45 tops, but if we really want him we have no choice. Anyways, José said yesterday that the main objective is to strenghten the squad, not bringing starting 11 players because we already have enough quality for that, and I agree with him, it oubviously depends on how Oscar will play but Willian-Oscar-Hazard when fit and fresh is top class offense.All we need is rotation players to keep them fresh, that's what Shuerrle and Salah failed to do, Cuadrado looked really good in the last game against Sunderland and the one with the Colombia, so we'll have to see. Really? You think Willian is good enough as our RW? He creates nothing there, he's so much better as a 10. We really have to upgrade our RW, it's one of our worst positions imo. Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Really? You think Willian is good enough as our RW? He creates nothing there, he's so much better as a 10. We really have to upgrade our RW, it's one of our worst positions imo.I have a feeling Mourinho will try Remy on the wing if Cuadrado continues being poo. Hence, Falcao. RoyalBlues and mikeholiday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I have a feeling Mourinho will try Remy on the wing if Cuadrado continues being poo. Hence, Falcao.I wouldn't mind that at all tbh, I really like Remy. mikeholiday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 When Oscar is fit, there are no questions asked, the 3 interchange positions and Hazard Willian Oscar play equally as 7-10-11. In fact, this is how important Oscar is for us, when he's there and fit, we don't have that kind of problems since he kind of organizes everything, and allows Willian more freedom by tracking back himself.And aside from the fact that he's been playing extremely well on 10 and 11 lately, I believe Willian has unleashed himself offensively in the last months, regardeless of the position, and I believe it will only get better. dUMB and RoyalBlues 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In the current market state, 60 Millions for Griezmann is just a bit high, I'd say 45 tops, but if we really want him we have no choice. Anyways, José said yesterday that the main objective is to strenghten the squad, not bringing starting 11 players because we already have enough quality for that, and I agree with him, it oubviously depends on how Oscar will play but Willian-Oscar-Hazard when fit and fresh is top class offense.All we need is rotation players to keep them fresh, that's what Shuerrle and Salah failed to do, Cuadrado looked really good in the last game against Sunderland and the one with the Colombia, so we'll have to see. Mourinho certainly disagrees. He dropped Oscar in any sort of bigger game whenever he had choice to. Oscar has only played when there were no alternatives.He even put Azpilicueta to play as a winger against Atletico because he had more faith in him than in Oscar.Mourinho comments mean next to nothing regarding transfer window. If Mou would have a chance to swap Oscar with Koke he certainly would take it. And already showed that he has enough of Fabregas in bigger games when he had to bring half-fit Ramires in to help midfield. He surely would take some physical midfielder into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Mourinho certainly disagrees. He dropped Oscar in any sort of bigger game whenever he had choice to. Oscar has only played when there were no alternatives.He even put Azpilicueta to play as a winger against Atletico because he had more faith in him than in Oscar.Mourinho comments mean next to nothing regarding transfer window. If Mou would have a chance to swap Oscar with Koke he certainly would take it. And already showed that he has enough of Fabregas in bigger games when he had to bring half-fit Ramires in to help midfield. He surely would take some physical midfielder into the side.Disagree about your first paragraph, it is definitely your opinion and assumption rather than Mourinho thinking. He is dropping Oscar and choose Fabregas instead as no 10, mainly against attacking teams when away, because Jose basically want to put more players in midfield to hold the ball and easily build the counter from there. Fabregas playing more deep most of the time, only when we attack or counter he then play as no 10. Yes, Fabregas is more fit to execute that role than Oscar, no one will deny this.Oscar still in Jose plan, because against defending or inferior teams, Oscar style of play more suited as our no 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Disagree about your first paragraph, it is definitely your opinion and assumption rather than Mourinho thinking. He is dropping Oscar and choose Fabregas instead as no 10, mainly against attacking teams when away, because Jose basically want to put more players in midfield to hold the ball and easily build the counter from there. Fabregas playing more deep most of the time, only when we attack or counter he then play as no 10. Yes, Fabregas is more fit to execute that role than Oscar, no one will deny this.Oscar still in Jose plan, because against defending or inferior teams, Oscar style of play more suited as our no 10."Mainly against attacking teams" = mainly against better teams.I don't need Jose to speak outloud when actions speak for itself. So far he dropped Oscar whenever he had a chance to, that's a fact. Oscar can certainly be replaced, Jose gave enough of hints of that.Willian is even taking Oscar role as a number 10 now. I don't see why Oscar couldn't be sacrificed. stroey and Madmax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosuke Aizen 46 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 @Blue Colored SkyWith all due respect, that's a fact in your head. Oscar has started against MU, MC and Arsenal in the 1st half of the season. It is during the 2nd half of the season, when Mourinho was opting for someone else. When Oscar was at his best form, there was no dropping him. RoyalBlues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 "Mainly against attacking teams" = mainly against better teams.I don't need Jose to speak outloud when actions speak for itself. So far he dropped Oscar whenever he had a chance to, that's a fact. Oscar can certainly be replaced, Jose gave enough of hints of that.Willian is even taking Oscar role as a number 10 now. I don't see why Oscar couldn't be sacrificed.A lot of factor involved, mine said it was tactical reason, others may said about his infamous burnt out since New Year. No one, except Jose himself know what is the real reason.Well what in the past, is in the past, and Oscar play his part too on our successful season. Oscar will finally have a break this summer and Jose has said that he expect Oscar could have a 'Hazard development' for next season. So far I couldn't find any clue Jose keen to sell Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Mourinho only dropped Oscar because of his bad form, injury, etc.When fit and in form, Oscar is our number 10 choice, Mourinho has always implied it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Greasyman thread is about... Oscar? Is Oscar the new Torres where every thread is corrupted into a debate about him? iseah100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think Griezmann would be ideal for us and I pray to the footballing atoms that Jose is just pulling a Mou on us just to wind us up. Its worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Why didn't they go for him last season if they wanted a winger? Smh. Missed out on both him and Alexis for cheap prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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