Jype 6,398 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 There is nothing to do with that. I have mentioned this a couple of times, RDM was offered 2 years contract only (Nobody received 2 years contract in football). That clearly showed that our board did not trust RDMGuardiola only got a one year deal when he first became Barcelona manager, just saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The way I see it:Currently, no matter who comes to coach the team will have plenty of adversity to face. Whether, Pep, Jose...if they come & I doubt it. The only one who could rescue this season again will be our Russian uncle Roman by buying more leeches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Man runs from stands onto pitch, rounds three players, falls on arse waving arms emphatically. Had a better game than Torres to be fair.— Dan Levene (@BluesChronicle) January 9, 2013That blokes mazy run Torres could learn from.Even when Torres recieves the ball, he has the first touch of a rapist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Torres was not that bad today. Mata lost two incredible chances, and Ivanovic was terrible. Torres has nothing to do with the result.Exactly and that is why we played with 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Everyone here suggested playing Torres in this game and Ba for Stoke, what the fuck has Rafa done wrong?Yes you can say Torres was shit but in the end, Ivan costs us the game, not that I'm going to blame him but it's a simple fact. We could at least get a draw no matter how shit Torres was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And furthermore, is it only me think Turnbull was awful? His positioning for the first goal was very questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Everyone here suggested playing Torres in this game and Ba for Stoke, what the fuck has Rafa done wrong?Yes you can say Torres was shit but in the end, Ivan costs us the game, not that I'm going to blame him but it's a simple fact. We could at least get a draw no matter how shit Torres was.Rafa has put Ba in the 80th minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Having had a chance to reflect on the game, I'm actually finding bright spots to pick up on. Yes it was a bad result, but the two goals we conceded came from mistakes from a player who doesn't usually make them. That's just the way it goes sometimes. They weren't a result of the system, they weren't even a result of Swansea pressure. They were individual errors that won't happen in the next 100 games.It's also refreshing to point out that it was only the Coca Cola Cup. We shouldn't be taking this cup seriously in the first place, but we did so what did we learn?Torres is shit. Sounds obvious, but he makes our team so much worse that it's actually becoming funny. We saw the improvement with Ba on Saturday and we saw it tonight in the last 10 minutes. He had four half-chances that he created through sheer force of will that Torres wouldn't ever have got near. When the ball flashed across the box in the second half, Torres was stuck behind Ivanovic - Ba would have at least been in the right place.All this suggests to me that with Ba in the team, we're actually not that bad. Now we're almost certainly not going to win the Europa League with Torres in the team, but we will have Ba in the league games.I think we're going to have to look at losing Ramires in the summer too. If Luiz or Mikel (or whoever) plays that DM role, I don't know what Rami adds to the team. Great engine but not brilliant on the ball, no penetration, no incisiveness. Luiz had a good game, but he needs to have a game at DM against a good team who put pressure on him rather than sitting back like Villa, QPR and Swansea did for large parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggman 118 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Chelsea played brilliantly, I think, certainly in the first half. Up til that goal, all looked impressively well. A shame we didn't score.However, the change Ba/Torres has shown what a difference a striker makes... Torres is, at his current level, not suited to be a first nor a second choice striker in a top club. He needs to go. Which means that a second striker has to be bought this transfer period! Ba cannot play all of our matches and Rafa should be allowed to rotate; it is sick that we only have one striker (although that's one more than the first half of the season).Don't you guys think it's kinda amazing how Chelsea still managed to win lots of games this season, playing without a striker? This shows the potential of the 3 supporting offensive players.Thus: we had bad luck, 2 individual mistakes of the same (normally most reliable) player. The football was good, but Ba showed that you need to play with a striker to make a serious goal threat. Hopefully the board picked that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Chelsea played brilliantly, I read. Well said. Just one thing I would add. They lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Guardiola only got a one year deal when he first became Barcelona manager, just saying....Yap and he basically won everything in his first year and he introduced tiki taka. I am pretty sure if we won ucl a little bit more convincingly rdm will be given more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wfisheruk 23 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I went to the game last night,even so we lost we didn't play that bad!! If we taken our chances in the the first (remires&mata) it could of been a different outcome saying that tho it was like we were playing with 10 men Torres was really poor and ivanovic had his worst game I seen him play in a chelsea shirt,we had all possession but no killer instinct in the final third!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And furthermore, is it only me think Turnbull was awful? His positioning for the first goal was very questionable.to blame Turnbull for either goal is ridiculous ...for the first he merely gave a decent pass to Bran. as to Torres he should have been subbed MUCH earlier ....I really doubt if you watched this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I don't think we're out of this cup.We could even be level with them in the first half of second leg.Two minor tweaks with Ba upfront, Oscar more central position and a bit deeper, Mata on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wfisheruk 23 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We still got a chance but a slim one at best..JT should be back in the squad by then so we can go back to our normal back four and start ba upfront then we have a chance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keikoismad 162 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 FUCKING SHIT!! i will tell what was wrong with this game in my opinion 1) we play a 50 MILLION GIRL WHO THINKS SHE DOESN'T HAS TO WORK FOR THE TEAM;, AND THIS WHILE WE HAVE JUST BOUGHT AN IN FORM STRIKER WHO KNOWS HOW TO SCORE GOALS. 2) IVANOVICH WAS SHIT THIS GAME, WORST PERFORMANCE FROM CHELSEA DEFENDER I HAVE SEEN IN A WHILE 3) BENITEZ : JUST FUCK OFF AND TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER WITH U 4) WHY WAS RAMIRES EVEN ON THE PITCH,? IN MY OPINION, HE DID NOT PLAY WELL. MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS WHOLE FELLAINI DEAL 5) LUIZ AND CESAR YOU GUYS SHOOT WAY TOO MUCH ON GOAL, TO PASS THE BALL IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE ASHAMED OFF 6) MATA MISSED A SITTER ( PASS FROM HAZARD) BUT I CAN FORGIVE HIM, HE HELPED US SO MUCH THIS YEAR ALREADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I'm glad I didn't get to watch this, it seems like a QPR 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ivanovic has been among our most consistent players in over 3 seasons now...if anyone has credits when it comes to mistakes, it's him Shame...Awful game from Torres. Didn't even try and seemed like a player from 4th league...Oh well, bright side is that Ba is probably the number 1 striker now yeah Bran is up there with Ashley in the consistently dependable list. i thought that during the game gutted about the result but equally for him. Swansea are a good side as much as i hate the jack bastards. however,if we turn it on at the Liberty stadium i still believe we can get to the final.regardless of how pumped up they are to get to their first major domestic cup final in nearly 50 years. gotta start Ba upfront in that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 only one word comes to mindKARMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADEZ 9 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 fuck u torres can't defend u no MORe i bow my head down in shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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