Fernando Torres

[Sheva. 5,373]

Yet another Torres thread lol.

[Kostas 1,468]

Maybe cause we splashed 50m and he played an entire 8 minutes in all three games combined

I've been more concerned about the club's finances than most but if we care more about 50m possibly wasted than keeping our top4 place, staying in the champions league and avoiding having the title out of reach by December we need to redefine what makes us fans.

[Henrique 9,133]

Why is this topic (and the discussion around him generally ) so damn active? We've won 3 very big games in terms of importance and confidence and yet Torres is the still on top of our list?

Because there are news reporting we are prepared to listen to offers in next window, thats a big story you like it or not.

[warnie_666 1,081]

Stupid News....Can we Ignore and move on?

[Kostas 1,468]

Because there are news reporting we are prepared to listen to offers in next window, thats a big story you like it or not.

Fair enough. I guess it's a case of whether or not having the common sense to realize that completely giving up on and selling at a huge loss a 5yr investment less than a year since its acquisition is not something the club would do.

[ABK1872 18]

Sure it's just more lazy journalism

[Henrique 9,133]

Fair enough. I guess it's a case of whether or not having the common sense to realize that completely giving up on and selling at a huge loss a 5yr investment less than a year since its acquisition is not something the club would do.

Oh, of course, our club has a history on only doing what the common sense dictates:

- Giving Avran Grant a 3 years contract and then sacking him 6 months later after reaching a UCL final.

- Buying Fernando Torres for 50m.

- Buying SWP for 24m when we were full of wingers.

Selling Fernando Torres for 20m next windows is far from being an unbelievable history, specially that the current manager has nothing to do with Torres arriving at the Club, and its pretty clear that the AVB has no faith on the striker.

[Kostas 1,468]

Oh, of course, our club has a history on only doing what the common sense dictates:

- Giving Avran Grant a 3 years contract and then sacking him 6 months later after reaching a UCL final.

- Buying Fernando Torres for 50m.

- Buying SWP for 24m when we were full of wingers.

Touché. What you're saying may be true but since I like believing that the club currently operates with much more sense than a few years ago and hindsight plays a great role in judging the Torres acquisition as absolutely retarded I run all similar "reports" through a common sense check before even bothering discussing them.

Selling Fernando Torres for 20m next windows is far from being an unbelievable history, specially that the current manager has nothing to do with Torres arriving at the Club, and its pretty clear that the AVB has no faith on the striker.

It is to me. AVB probably has as much to do with Torres as Carletto did and while the fact that the Spaniard has been warming the bench may suggest that he has lost faith in him January is coming and both us and AVB should get in terms with seeing Torres participate much, much more.

[incometax 116]

torres + $ for falcao

[Gil 28]

Why do hacks like Neil Ashton keep insisting Sturridge is ahead of Torres when he's been playing wide right all season long?

Oh and why would we sell Nando in January when Kalou, Anelka and Drogba will all be unavailable for one reason or another during that month. We would be left with Sturridge who's one half of our only wingers and Lukaku who isn't ready to be a starter yet.

Really can't stand lazy journalism. Oh and I thought Torres was Roman's personal "toy" so why would he get rid so soon?

[Hd123 5]

Maybe because "Toy" is broken

[Lampy 110]

I just talked to Torres at the Dorchester hotel this morning, he told me that he will be going to Lille on a one year LOAN (we're not selling him) in exchange for Hazard (we have to pay + 15 mill as well).

Wtf ? I just got hired by the daily mail for that story !

[francozola 2,040]

So many threads lol

[DDA 9,929]

We all know that this is simply shoddy journalism but if (not suprising tbh) Torres is for sale then can we take down that undeserved banner of his transexual looking head at the Bridge please!

Don't get me wrong i have been on Torres side since he moved here and still hope he can turn it around but It's insulting to the players who have contributed a great deal to winning trophies who don't have a banner of their mugshot hanging from the stands!

[Paviour7 5]

At the rate he's going, his value will likely plummet to 10m come summer, we can't really wait that long if we are planning to get rid and get something decent in return.

My favorite part of Torres failure (not that it's a good thing) is how many people say "he can't play with x player, he can only play with y player". He cost 50m, he should be able to play with Turnbull and Hilario as outfield players if he has to. He is comletely bereft of confidence, he just cannot do anything correctly, even simple dribbles, and yet lampard and malouda take all the blame for some reason. His form is down to him alone and his inability to perform at a good level

Just because he cost 50 mill doesn't make him worth 50 mill. While we all appreciate what Roman has done for the club, the fact is that he is a maniac and he obviously desperately wanted Torres for the club meant Liverpool were able to get a massive fee for him. In this case, the fact that we paid 50 mill for him doesn't mean that he should be able to play with anyone under circumstances and perform at his best at all times. He's human. The transfer fee was no fault of his and therefore shouldn't be a precursor for how he should be performing. If we had only paid 20 mill for him, we would still be expecting him to perform at a high level because he has performed at that level before. All this nonsense about him costing 50 mill so therefore he should be the greatest player of all time and be able to do anything is ridiculous.

As we've seen, Torres is a confidence player who needs to play in a set up which suits his style. Chelsea probably isn't right for him. In hindsight, we probably shouldn't of bought him. I'm still hoping that he can reach the level we know he's capable of because it would be hugely beneficial for us if he could recapture his form.

I just don't think that the fact that ROMAN decided to give Liva 50 mill for him because of his impatience should be the reason for him being sold (If he does) because, to be honest, I'm not sure if he'll ever be worth 50 mill. I mean, he's no Ronaldo is he? We should forget about the price tag when discussing the form of Torres because we'll never be satisfied...