Fernando Torres

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

Maybe the family thing is unsettling him. He is still living in a hotel while his young family are still in Liverpool. But yeah your right, he pushed for this move so has to make the most out of it. Maybe a nightout with John Terry would do him good or he could always pop round Waynes Bridges ex missus she still lives in Cobham dont she??

A quiet night in with JT, Boris Johnson, Charlie Sheen, Wayne bridges missus, and a couple of ho's , beers and bolivian marching powder would loosen him up

Probably,

[steve5221 91]

A quiet night in with JT, Boris Johnson, Charlie Sheen, Wayne bridges missus, and a couple of ho's , beers and bolivian marching powder would loosen him up

Probably,

He needs to do something because he looks like Stan Laurel at the minute

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

He needs to do something because he looks like Stan Laurel at the minute

Lol the face is similar

[Jose M 140]

Like I said as soon as we bought him He's only going to find his form again in the pre season next year. ASIA WILL LOVE HIM!

[eldo 868]

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Terry: Can one of you do that please

[Tortilla9 390]

Know what you mean he looks a bit morose. Bit of a loner. Cheer up for fucks sake youre a multimillionaire from kickinga a bag of wind about a field.

I'm getting visions of Sutton Shevchenko, Kezman.......

By all accounts he's pretty much a quiet guy who prefers to spend time with his family and group of close friends from Spain. He's got a little bit of nerd in him - he likes to play video games.

He always looks a little pouty, bored, uninterested, whatever you want to call it on the field. Looked that way at Atletico, Spain NT, and Liverpool (good and bad days). I think it's just his nature so the whole body language thing is just a media spin. He can look like a spoiled brat one minute and then perform a piece of magic the next.

That said I'm not feeling sorry for Torres (much as I love him) because he's a grown man, making millions of dollars, and the choice was his. A lot of people see that baby/pretty boy face and think he's a lightweight. I think there's a ruthlessness and ambition to him that keeps him going. He stayed at Atletico when the white part of Madrid hated him and seemed to enjoy thumbing his nose at them. He left to Liverpool for a CL and trophy chance even though Atletico was his first love. He left Liverpool where they loved him for a CL and trophy chance. He himself said he understood the decision and ramifications and still made the choice.

I believe Torres will come good for Chelsea. I think the goals are coming but when? Who the hell knows. I personally don't think the 4-4-2 suits his best attributes unless he's at the top with the other forward supporting him. Chelsea have seen him for 3.5 years. They know what type of player he is and how he's the most effective. Does Chelsea make the decision to use tactics that get the best out of him? Yes, then Chelsea get their investment back. No, then there's going to be a lot of bashing of Torres to come.

He did seem genuinely happy for the team after each goal. He only seemed to be frustrated at the end when Malouda was doing whatever the hell Malouda was doing. Again, this is all psycho-babble from the recliner chair experts isn't it?

I watched the match last night and posted earlier Torres touches during the game. My daughter came home from practice and watched it so I watched a little here and there with her. Halfway through:

Daughter: Do they not like Torres?

Tortilla9: Why?

Daughter: they never pass to him

T9: the passing overall isn't that good

Daughter: I thought only girls did that (she plays GU16)

[dodojojo 510]

<br />Daughter:  I thought only girls did that (she plays GU16)<br />[/quote

LOL. Mean Girls in Chelsea. Oh well, it worked out well for Lindsey Lohan in the end (in the movie that is).

With only 10 games left, there isn't much Ancelotti and Chelsea can do to accomodate Torres' game. He's going to have hang on and try his best. It sucks because I don't think you'll see him at his best. He does however need to keep putting in his shifts and hope for the best. If changes aren't made over the summer to accomodate him SOMEWHAT, then why buy him? Somebody at Chelsea FC thought this one through right?

His face is his face and his personality is his personality. People talk about his body language but even during his best years with Liverpool did he have a giant smile on his face while running around on the pitch? This guy is not a happy-go-lucky fella. And everyone who has ever been asked about Torres always say he's very quiet. Did Kalou not say the same during his recent BBC interview? All you hear is quiet, shy and private. That isn't going to change because he's moved to London.

[dodojojo 510]

During the transfer saga, an journalist brought up Gerrard's almost jump to Chelsea and thought that it was more certain Torres would actually do it because he wasn't as mentally fragile as Gerrard. I was a little surprised by that because if you look at the two you'd think Gerrard's the hard steely guy and perhaps he is on the pitch. But as pointed out above, Torres has a very subtle but steely core. He's walked out on two clubs who adored him in order to pursue CL football. He's going to have dig deep to get himself through the rest of the season. It has certainly been the toughest of his career.

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

By all accounts he's pretty much a quiet guy who prefers to spend time with his family and group of close friends from Spain. He's got a little bit of nerd in him - he likes to play video games.

He always looks a little pouty, bored, uninterested, whatever you want to call it on the field. Looked that way at Atletico, Spain NT, and Liverpool (good and bad days). I think it's just his nature so the whole body language thing is just a media spin. He can look like a spoiled brat one minute and then perform a piece of magic the next.

That said I'm not feeling sorry for Torres (much as I love him) because he's a grown man, making millions of dollars, and the choice was his. A lot of people see that baby/pretty boy face and think he's a lightweight. I think there's a ruthlessness and ambition to him that keeps him going. He stayed at Atletico when the white part of Madrid hated him and seemed to enjoy thumbing his nose at them. He left to Liverpool for a CL and trophy chance even though Atletico was his first love. He left Liverpool where they loved him for a CL and trophy chance. He himself said he understood the decision and ramifications and still made the choice.

I believe Torres will come good for Chelsea. I think the goals are coming but when? Who the hell knows. I personally don't think the 4-4-2 suits his best attributes unless he's at the top with the other forward supporting him. Chelsea have seen him for 3.5 years. They know what type of player he is and how he's the most effective. Does Chelsea make the decision to use tactics that get the best out of him? Yes, then Chelsea get their investment back. No, then there's going to be a lot of bashing of Torres to come.

He did seem genuinely happy for the team after each goal. He only seemed to be frustrated at the end when Malouda was doing whatever the hell Malouda was doing. Again, this is all psycho-babble from the recliner chair experts isn't it?

I watched the match last night and posted earlier Torres touches during the game. My daughter came home from practice and watched it so I watched a little here and there with her. Halfway through:

Daughter: Do they not like Torres?

Tortilla9: Why?

Daughter: they never pass to him

T9: the passing overall isn't that good

Daughter: I thought only girls did that (she plays GU16)

Lol @ your daughters analysis.

Thanks for that Tortilla9, very good insight into the young man. I beleive he'll come good as well just a matter of getting the first.....

[LDN Blue 7,903]

A friend of mine made an interesting comment about Torres (he's a Liverpool-fan so took it with a pinch of salt, still a bit relevant though [he actually knows his football])

"Torres takes 1 step forward, and two back. I saw him versus United on Tuesday and he looked much better, his movement and vision was reminiscent of his time at Liverpool. Then versus Blackpool he did a complete u-turn! Lazy, bored & dead weight. We saw that at Liverpool too, but at least there he had a good goal record, so we let it slide."

It's interesting because you can see how he's right. In fairness he did end with..

"That being said, Torres is a natural goal scorer, you can't doubt his talent. He'll come good eventually, when he's settled with his team-mates and gets good communication going"

[Tomo 21,733]

He needs more service than he is getting.

Ive always said on form he is the best forward in the world imo he is a lot better than Villa, put it this way if he was playing for Barca against Arsenal last night he would have laughed his way to a hat-tick maybe even more.

[ElNinoSemper 18]

During the transfer saga, an journalist brought up Gerrard's almost jump to Chelsea and thought that it was more certain Torres would actually do it because he wasn't as mentally fragile as Gerrard. I was a little surprised by that because if you look at the two you'd think Gerrard's the hard steely guy and perhaps he is on the pitch. But as pointed out above, Torres has a very subtle but steely core. He's walked out on two clubs who adored him in order to pursue CL football. He's going to have dig deep to get himself through the rest of the season. It has certainly been the toughest of his career.

Steely core is exactly it. He's a lot harder than the pretty boy looks and quiet nature suggest. I suspect why that's partly why Gerrard was reluctant to criticise him recently, Torres up and did what Gerrard could not, even though he wanted to. That and they seem to have clicked on and off the field. It's not going great guns at the moment but that's only temporary. Whatever the dressing room dynamics are with Malouda and co, I don't see him folding anytime soon, much to their dismay I would imagine.

He needs more service than he is getting.

Ive always said on form he is the best forward in the world imo he is a lot better than Villa, put it this way if he was playing for Barca against Arsenal last night he would have laughed his way to a hat-tick maybe even more.

Totally agree. I've always thought he is better that Villa.

[zolayes 14,489]

we need to keep patient ,,he is pure class ..KTF he will deliver

[LDN Blue 7,903]

He needs more service than he is getting.

Ive always said on form he is the best forward in the world imo he is a lot better than Villa, put it this way if he was playing for Barca against Arsenal last night he would have laughed his way to a hat-tick maybe even more.

Word up!

You could not be more right!

[Tortilla9 390]

I finally managed to watch the Chelsea TV interview (3/4/11) with Torres prior to the Blackpool game.

1. He said as long as Chelsea are winning and getting 3 pts that's what really matters, more important than his first goal

2. He knows he needs to score because he's a striker and that's the job of the striker

3. He's the last one to come so he needs to understand the way the team plays

4. It's one thing to play against a team, another to play with

5. Needs to adapts himself to the Chelsea style of play, movement of teammates, training

6. Feels more fit, sharper

7. Waiting for the first goal

8. Good players should be able to play together

9. Anelka, Drogba, Torres are different types of players and it's a good problem for the manager to have to decide lineup, formation

10. Dressing room has been good and teammates have been welcoming

His English has really come a long way since he left Spain and he seems more comfortable.

[dodojojo 510]

Well, he’s hardly going to say things are dire and that Drogba and Anelka give him wedgies in the dressing room…I don’t really put too much stock in the official team interviews.

I thought he was very articulate at the first Chelsea press conference (the one with Ancelotti) but he’s very difficult to understand in this one.

[Tortilla9 390]

Well, he's hardly going to say things are dire and that Drogba and Anelka give him wedgies in the dressing room…I don't really put too much stock in the official team interviews.

I thought he was very articulate at the first Chelsea press conference (the one with Ancelotti) but he's very difficult to understand in this one.

I doubt Drogba and Anelka are giving him wedgies. More likely having Malouda do it while they watch.

I actually understood this interview. I remember his first interviews in English and those were difficult to understand and I've been around a lot of ESL (English as a Second Language) speakers.

It goes back to I think he's deferring a little too much although the timing of the move and the run in make it difficult.