Victor Moses

[The Skipper 20,593]

There always seems to be one random player in our squad that gets overhyped beyond extremes every pre season, and this time its Moses's turn.

I get the notion that preseason doesn't mean much at all, but who's over hyping him? No one is saying he's starting for us. Most are just saying that he'd be a solid squad player which isn't far from the truth.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

I love Victor Moses, always have

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Good squad player, never going to be good enough to start imo. Has similar deficiencies as Schurrle as he's not that great of a passer. He's a better dribbler than Schurrle though.

I don't see any of the bench options beating out Willian for the RW though, not even close. Willian may not score a lot but his all around play (passing, defending, etc.) is miles better. On par with Hazard, if not better.

[Tomo 21,733]

I get the notion that preseason doesn't mean much at all, but who's over hyping him? No one is saying he's starting for us. Most are just saying that he'd be a solid squad player which isn't far from the truth.

He was quite an awfully frustrating player with us, he was good to have at that time because in the season (12/13) we had a 60 plus game season and our expectations were relatively low for our standards.

Now we are looking to win the lot and a player like Moses who has the football brain of a hyena will only serve to handicap us, even as a squad player, he's good for Stoke and Wigan but was average- ok for us first time round and utterly abysmal for Liverpool.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

He is HG, and will be a useful backup, he will be subbed in on every 60+ minutes. No harm on our squad, so he is very well welcomed.

[Jase 43,479]

He was excellent for us in Europe Europa League, he's strong, pacy, young, somewhat proven in the EPL and homegrown. He's not a bad squad player to have. Better than wasting money on players with similar level of ability whose chances of turning into a definite success is just as low if not lower.

Fixed.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I think some of you are reading way too much into pre-season. No doubt he improved last season at Stoke but we can do much better. At the moment he's probably the same level as Willian is.

Or maybe I'm completely wrong & he explodes this season, after all, he was extremely highly rated back in his Palace days.

This an insult to not only Willian but Football in general. To make the statement that Moses is on the same level as Willian is as ridiculous as it gets.

Willian is a top player. I'm not exaggrating when I say he is not far from world class. He is far above the Willian at the start of 13/14 and 14/15, ability-wise and more importantly mentally. Willian has even got to the point where he is starting to take responsibility when we're attacking, like Hazard does. At many games in the second half of the season, he was the difference. We have very few players who have made it this far in their evolution.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Good squad player, never going to be good enough to start imo. Has similar deficiencies as Schurrle as he's not that great of a passer. He's a better dribbler than Schurrle though.

I don't see any of the bench options beating out Willian for the RW though, not even close. Willian may not score a lot but his all around play (passing, defending, etc.) is miles better. On par with Hazard, if not better.

I think Jose will use Willian in midfield more, personally.

[Oscar 441]

Honestly, doesn't matter who the 4th am is because Remy and rambo will be utilized more.......

[Tomo 21,733]

In 12/13 he was a decent squad player for what we needed at the time, we were aiming for 3rd and a cup as a bonus so Moses as a squad player wass ok despite his flaws.

Now it's different, we are aiming to win everything and that means the demands are so so so high, any dropped points are borderline disastrous and a player of Moses inconsistency just doesn't have a place in this squad.

He is capable of good games, very good infact but just doesnt have the consistent level demanding of a top top level player, too often he kills counter attacks with beyond awful decisions, he's even worse than Torres in that regard.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

Another solid performance.

Has thoroughly earned his spot in the squad.

[Madmax 9,219]

Now we are looking to win the lot and a player like Moses who has the football brain of a hyena will only serve to handicap us, even as a squad player, he's good for Stoke and Wigan but was average- ok for us first time round and utterly abysmal for Liverpool.

I don't know, I've seen hyenas play some good football. There's one at Man City by the name of Nasri.

[didierforever 7,349]

another good performance.

[Parky 739]

I like his directness and determination but he needs to improve his final delivery.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Rumors is that Everton want him included in any deal for Stones, he has been good so far but if it gets us Stones I guess he has to go.

[zolayes 14,489]

Rumors is that Everton want him included in any deal for Stones, he has been good so far but if it gets us Stones I guess he has to go.

this is what happens when you sell before you buy ,, You get held to ransom by sellers

[the wes 7,212]

moses has looked shape since hes came back i can see chelsea use moses a lot this season

[lucio 5,418]

Looks dangerous again