Oscar 441 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 There won't be an odd man out...-----------Courtois-------------Ivan - Zouma - Terry - Azpi-------Matic --- Pogba------------------ Cesc ---------------Willian------------------Hazard------------Costa---------------workrate is needed.Cesc set piece ability is about 10 levels better than anyone else besides maybe luis, who doesn't start. If pogba comes, pogba set peice ability is very good as well and long ball abililty. Pogba would replace cesc and ramires would be the workhorse in the middle for jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Yet another time left in the big game ...He's the biggest asset that remains in our stable. His remaining book value is as low as 9m£, he'd easily fetch like 25m£, so 14m£ would be profit on FFP books plus like 5m£ from his wages, that's 19m£, that's annual cost of player who's fee is 55m£ and is getting 150k/week (Pogba ?). His sell would massively help Chelsea spend this summer rather than waiting another year to get their hand on new 2016/17 Premier League (and getting enormous help with fight against FFP). If Chelsea do this remains the question but I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar was the one to sacrifice in pursuit for world-class player that otherwise we'd miss. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 That's such shit. Mourinho played KDB out of position and he's always been known for his ball skills and vision. We've seen PLENTY of Oscar to know he doesn't have either of those traits, just work ethic and the ability to score a decent amount.Oh shut up please. Look at his stats this season and then tell me he's only good for work ethic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Another big game he spent most of it on the bench, worrying times for him I think because Ramires-Zouma-Cesc looked decent together, put Matic in there and you have an even better midfield 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 You're an absolute moron if you think Oscar lacks talent. He's just playing in a system and manager that will never truly get the best out of him. It's as simple as that.Jose is all about end results and team cohesion. He'll definitely help a footballer in the mental aspect or even their professionalism but he rarely ever gets the absolute best out of an individual like say, Ancelotti, Guardiola, Wenger, Rodgers etc. The only real exceptions are defenders. RoyalBlues, BlueLion. and dimmas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! stroey 2,525 Posted March 2, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 2, 2015 Jose is all about end results and team cohesion. He'll definitely help a footballer in the mental aspect or even their professionalism but he rarely ever gets the absolute best out of an individual like say, Ancelotti, Guardiola, Wenger, Rodgers etc. The only real exceptions are defenders.Wow, are you joking? One main example per club. didn't follow him at Porto yetAt Chelsea (first spell):Drogba, he brought him here and made him (one of) the best striker in the EPL. At Inter:Sneijder, best year in his career, never repeated it again after Jose left. Real Madrid:Ozil, compare the current Ozil with the Real Madrid Ozil. DDA, Reddish-Blue, The Skipper and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Still want him in the team but if Jose feels that he can be replaceable in his system then I am sure clubs will pay top money for him because he's a truly amazing player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Really, I have no idea what to do with him.We COULD get on without him but we'd have a very small squad and to be blunt, the only improvement on him is Isco or maybe Coutinho, both of which are not viable. He's only 23 anyway, next season will be pivotal for him, I think his success or failure will be what decides his future here is. CFC888 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Need to be replaced.We need someone more physical, more aggressive,more Stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtowle182 79 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 coutinho is not better than oscar. oscar does what he is told, a soldier on the pitch. He has some brilliant games and is still so young. when we play matic-fabregas with oscar further forward, his ability to come deeper into space when cesc moves forward is unique and during matches when he does this we see some of our most brilliant football. we can all be very fickle sometimes and I think there is a lot of that going on in this thread. or just short memories. RoyalBlues, CeleryFC and CFC888 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pacquiao 1,834 Posted March 2, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 2, 2015 Need to be replaced.We need someone more physical, more aggressive,more Stats.More stats? Oscar is in the top 10 of the most productive players in the PL.1. Aguero 17+6 - A Goal or Assist every 67 Minutes2. Costa 17+2 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes3. Sanchez 12+7 - A Goal or Assist every 105 Minutes4. Fabregas 2+15 - A Goal or Assist every 115 Minutes= Kane 14+3 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes5. Austin 14+2 - A Goal or Assist every 124 Minutes6. Hazard 9+6 - A Goal or Assist every 153 Minutes7. Oscar 6+7 - A Goal or Assist every 127 Minutes= Cazorla 7+6 - A Goal or Assist every 162 MinutesFor someone to be producing a goal or assist every 127 minutes, while also always contributing so much defensively is excellent, the criticism he gets from some Chelsea fans is bizarre. Muzchap, BlueLion., Madmax and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 More stats? Oscar is in the top 10 of the most productive players in the PL.1. Aguero 17+6 - A Goal or Assist every 67 Minutes2. Costa 17+2 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes3. Sanchez 12+7 - A Goal or Assist every 105 Minutes4. Fabregas 2+15 - A Goal or Assist every 115 Minutes= Kane 14+3 - A Goal or Assist every 89 Minutes5. Austin 14+2 - A Goal or Assist every 124 Minutes6. Hazard 9+6 - A Goal or Assist every 153 Minutes7. Oscar 6+7 - A Goal or Assist every 127 Minutes= Cazorla 7+6 - A Goal or Assist every 162 MinutesFor someone to be producing a goal or assist every 127 minutes, while also always contributing so much defensively is excellent, the criticism he gets from some Chelsea fans is bizarre. that's what I've always defended, for someone that contributed as much as he did, he gets a lot more stick than say Willian who contributes with nice flicks now and then and a great deal of one assist or goal every blue moon (I'm only comparing them attack wise). I'm not saying he isn't entitled to criticism, he is. He's slumping once again in the second half of the season, but the stick he gets around here you would think he's preventing us from winning the league when in reality he won us some matches with goals and assists, was the first scorer in some games - an early scorer btw.But now we should be replacing him with Coutinho or getting the creative/productive/attacking wonder known as Willian to lead us to bigger things. Please, if we're going to replace Oscar - which I'm not against btw (I'm against selling him, not upgrading him), make sure it's someone worth it. Willian isn't the answer, Coutinho isn't the answer and while I do believe he's in a bad streak now, Oscar has had better streaks this season than both Coutinho and Willian on their best streaks. Not that many will agree because the fashionable thing to post here these days alongside Mourinho's ugly and pragmatic football is moaning about how despicable of a footballer Oscar is.Carry on that. Fact remains 1) Mourinho is back winning titles and he has big chances of winning the league - deservedly; 2) the club has just renewed Oscar's contract mid-season, something we did to very few players lately, so despite all theirr technicolor dreams I don't think the board is looking forward to selling him. He's here to stay at least for another season (and diminishing it to one season is a stretch already). If we're bringing another #10 is a complete different story, but people expecting to see him gone in the summer can fall from their beds, hit their heads on the floor and wake up. Something drastic would have to happen, and by that I mean someone willing to pay an incredible amount of money for him. But if he's as bad as you guys make him out to be, who would pay this for him? Luiz, Mata and Kev with all their problems and criticism here showed their worth in their NTs (Mata not much) and Luiz and Mata showed it here too (although they also had problems) and the three of them were players that mastered a couple of things. Most of you deem Oscar to be mediocre on everything he does, so by what logic would you see someone coming with big money for him? And if no one is willing to pay big money for him because he's terrible and average on everything, then you expect the club that has done the best business in the last couple of years to let one of their young bets to go by change money? His contract ends on 2019, why would the club do it if they planned to sell him less than 12 months later? I try to find the logic, but it keeps evading me. Gilvorak, kellzfresh, Muzchap and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 We need the Brazil Oscar to show up... lolool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Wow, are you joking? One main example per club. didn't follow him at Porto yetAt Chelsea (first spell):Drogba, he brought him here and made him (one of) the best striker in the EPL. At Inter:Sneijder, best year in his career, never repeated it again after Jose left. Real Madrid:Ozil, compare the current Ozil with the Real Madrid Ozil. Wesley, unfortunately was in a bad situation in his prime at real and ajax he was really good..Ozil, before he came to madrid was probably the best i saw from ozil via 2010 world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I take no pleasure in saying this but Oscar was not missed today at all. Not once during the game did I think to myself 'why didn't Oscar start' or 'bring Oscar on'That's great! Means the manager has options and got it spot on! Carefree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guys kellzfresh, CFC888 and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guysI will never love Ramires [emoji14] I do like Oscar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Ramires was purchased for right around the same amount as Oscar, the now sold Schurrle was a couple million less. Why people think that because Oscar is our regular 10 means he has to start every big game is beyond me. He's another squad player who has his role within the team. Because he doesn't play in all of the big games doesn't mean he has no value...As a matter of fact we're getting great return on a guy we bought for under 20m. Lower your expectations and you will love him AND Ramires! Two perfect examples of great squad guysAlmost every single source has it that we paid £25m for Oscar.Question for you. When we bought Oscar, what expectations did you have for him? Because many viewed him alongside with Hazard as our future stars. He isn't looking like he'll ever be as important as Eden to us though. didierforever, stroey and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Almost every single source has it that we paid £25m for Oscar.Question for you. When we bought Oscar, what expectations did you have for him? Because many viewed him alongside with Hazard as our future stars. He isn't looking like he'll ever be as important as Eden to us though.Well Internacional's accounting firm have it at 19.35M, I don't see a reason why they would lie. Also if you look at Oscar's Amortized fee there is no way its 25m we paid for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I will never love Ramires [emoji14] I do like Oscar though.Love Ramires he's without question the perfect squad player! stroey and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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