Oscar

[The Skipper 20,609]

People only say Moura is better because he's a bit more flashy - Oscar is definitely the better player. Who starts for Brazil almost every game from the two? That's right, Oscar does, not Lucas.

[Hutcho 8,443]

oscar is currently the better player and will become even better... He has it all and is no.10 for brazil. That says everything you need to know.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Oscar is much better than Lucas. End of story...

You can ask any Brazilian sports journalist, they will say it is Neymar > Oscar > Lucas.

Both come from Sao Paulo`s Academy and Oscar was always the one treated as the pure gem, the next Kaka, etc.

Also, Oscar wears the famous Brazilian n10 jersey, Lucas is not even in the starting lineup.

They are all gret, but Oscar is better by a mile. Not only the skills make a good footballer. Oscar has the talent, the IQ and the character!

[Jase 43,479]

Seems that people just can't help themselves these days to compare one of our players with someone else.

Anyway, please stay on topic and not turn this into an 'Oscar v Moura' thread!

[Madmax 9,219]

Mano Menezes - "Let's just say Oscar is Brazil's no.10 ... and we don't give that shirt to just anybody."

Says it all.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Intelligent, like Zidane was. Cant wait when he plays here for few years, what a beast he will be

[Jcar92 66]

Guys... I want to be clear at first... After Neymar, Oscar is my favorite player at the moment... But this is crazy. I understand the hapiness with Oscar since he is exhaling class with our shirt, but, are you guys really saying that Oscar is way better without the transition of Lucas Moura to Europe?

I'm not somebody that see Lucas just in youtube videos. In Brazil, i support Corinthians, the rival of São Paulo Futebol club, and still, i say that this guy, Moura, is damn dangerous. He is not just the drible, not anymore. And even when he was starting, he still had the pass, the mobility, the positioning to receive passess or chances outside of the area and shoot. Now, he gained experience, he defends and also helps to orchestrate the game. He has the same good characteristic of Oscar, he shows his best at hard times, against big rivals.

I live here, this saying that Oscar was more hyped than him is wrong... Just now that he is in Chelsea. And Didier Drogba LA-la-La-LA-la-La, you're brazilian, you know that Lucas don't play because of the stubbornness of Mano Menezes, just like with Dunga... Pato wasn't called, but we know that Grafite is not better that him. Everyone ask for Neymar in one side with Lucas in the other. And to be true, our diamond just received the 10 because Ganso was injured and this number is, year for year, in brazil, given to the player that has the role to orchestrate the game, the AMF. The best player is Neymar... And while Oscar showed his skills in the sub-20 world cup, Moura was at the American Cup with the principal team, they thought that Moura was more ready.

And of course today Oscar is put above Lucas now. He made the move to europe and didn't struggle, is learning new things.... I'm not saying that Lucas is better, but, saying that Oscar is ten times Lucas is just wrong... Psg people don't paid this crazy amount for nothing.

Of course, i don't think that his price was correct, but still... He seems to have a good future.

Well, he's coming, let's see how well he will develop. I Just hope for good football.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Guys... I want to be clear at first... After Neymar, Oscar is my favorite player at the moment... But this is crazy. I understand the hapiness with Oscar since he is exhaling class with our shirt, but, are you guys really saying that Oscar is way better without the transition of Lucas Moura to Europe?

I'm not somebody that see Lucas just in youtube videos. In Brazil, i support Corinthians, the rival of São Paulo Futebol club, and still, i say that this guy, Moura, is damn dangerous. He is not just the drible, not anymore. And even when he was starting, he still had the pass, the mobility, the positioning to receive passess or chances outside of the area and shoot. Now, he gained experience, he defends and also helps to orchestrate the game. He has the same good characteristic of Oscar, he shows his best at hard times, against big rivals.

I live here, this saying that Oscar was more hyped than him is wrong... Just now that he is in Chelsea. And Didier Drogba LA-la-La-LA-la-La, you're brazilian, you know that Lucas don't play because of the stubbornness of Mano Menezes, just like with Dunga... Pato wasn't called, but we know that Grafite is not better that him. Everyone ask for Neymar in one side with Lucas in the other. And to be true, our diamond just received the 10 because Ganso was injured and this number is, year for year, in brazil, given to the player that has the role to orchestrate the game, the AMF. The best player is Neymar... And while Oscar showed his skills in the sub-20 world cup, Moura was at the American Cup with the principal team, they thought that Moura was more ready.

And of course today Oscar is put above Lucas now. He made the move to europe and didn't struggle, is learning new things.... I'm not saying that Lucas is better, but, saying that Oscar is ten times Lucas is just wrong... Psg people don't paid this crazy amount for nothing.

Of course, i don't think that his price was correct, but still... He seems to have a good future.

Well, he's coming, let's see how well he will develop. I Just hope for good football.

I disagree with you concerning Lucas Moura. Good player, but kinda one trick pony in my book. So, I tend to agree with Brazil management about Lucas' role in the national team.

Oscar IMO is a sure starter for Brazil... while Lucas is debatable. They don't play in the same position as Lucas to me is a pure attacker, he can't track back or play in the middle.

[Land 331]

Lucas is very hard working and only started playing as a winger/striker this season....

[Rmpr 8,977]

Guys... I want to be clear at first... After Neymar, Oscar is my favorite player at the moment... But this is crazy. I understand the hapiness with Oscar since he is exhaling class with our shirt, but, are you guys really saying that Oscar is way better without the transition of Lucas Moura to Europe?

I'm not somebody that see Lucas just in youtube videos. In Brazil, i support Corinthians, the rival of São Paulo Futebol club, and still, i say that this guy, Moura, is damn dangerous. He is not just the drible, not anymore. And even when he was starting, he still had the pass, the mobility, the positioning to receive passess or chances outside of the area and shoot. Now, he gained experience, he defends and also helps to orchestrate the game. He has the same good characteristic of Oscar, he shows his best at hard times, against big rivals.

I live here, this saying that Oscar was more hyped than him is wrong... Just now that he is in Chelsea. And Didier Drogba LA-la-La-LA-la-La, you're brazilian, you know that Lucas don't play because of the stubbornness of Mano Menezes, just like with Dunga... Pato wasn't called, but we know that Grafite is not better that him. Everyone ask for Neymar in one side with Lucas in the other. And to be true, our diamond just received the 10 because Ganso was injured and this number is, year for year, in brazil, given to the player that has the role to orchestrate the game, the AMF. The best player is Neymar... And while Oscar showed his skills in the sub-20 world cup, Moura was at the American Cup with the principal team, they thought that Moura was more ready.

And of course today Oscar is put above Lucas now. He made the move to europe and didn't struggle, is learning new things.... I'm not saying that Lucas is better, but, saying that Oscar is ten times Lucas is just wrong... Psg people don't paid this crazy amount for nothing.

Of course, i don't think that his price was correct, but still... He seems to have a good future.

Well, he's coming, let's see how well he will develop. I Just hope for good football.

First of all, It is Rmpr not Dider Drogba Lalalala...

Second, have you ever been to Cotia training ground? Muricy went there severall times just to see Oscar. Nobody is saying Lucas isnt great, no team pays 44million for a bad player, he is very good (alright, we pay 44million for a bad player, but that is another discussion). You cant deny Oscar was way more hyped, every youngster coach new about him when he was 15, not about former Marcelinho though.

Third, dont tell me Hulk havent won fairly his place. Yes, back at the Olympics everybody wanted to see Lucas, but the places have changed. Hulk totally deserved his starting place. Oscar on the other hand, just make Ganso look stupid. Ganso did not lived up to the expectations, Oscar did.

Fourth, I think you are misinderstanding. Nobody said he wont succeed or he is not inteligent or he is one dimensional. We are only saying Oscar is better (at least for now).

Enough with Moura vs Oscar, lets just concentrate on Oscar here!

[Jcar92 66]

I disagree with you concerning Lucas Moura. Good player, but kinda one trick pony in my book. So, I tend to agree with Brazil management about Lucas' role in the national team.

Oscar IMO is a sure starter for Brazil... while Lucas is debatable. They don't play in the same position as Lucas to me is a pure attacker, he can't track back or play in the middle.

I respect your opinion, for what you said, i assume that you watch his games, i also receive comments here that he tends to go for the drible, but this is because is his best skill, and works a lot. We had Robben in CHelsea, we all know that he would take the ball at the right side, bring to middle and kick, but still worked... Not saying that Lucas always go for the same play, is just that he do it(the drible) because it works, if he needs to adapt here, i think he will do. He can do other things alright. His last game can show, the 5 x 0 againt "La U", look at the pass that he did to Luis Fabiano...

Look, Lucas is clearly wronged. Okay, you may prefer Hulk above him, but he didn't even receive a good chance, always when has just some minutes of game, even if you put all that, that he has one trick, for what he showed us in the Brasileirão, he should have more chances...

Agree with you about tracking back, he try, but still is no good at it... Disagree about his position, he plays in the midfield, but always at the sides... To compare, Neymar is the LWF, while Lucas play behind as the RMF... He is really agressive, really direct, so it seems like that.

But again, i get your point.

[Jcar92 66]

First of all, It is Rmpr not Dider Drogba Lalalala...

Second, have you ever been to Cotia training ground? Muricy went there severall times just to see Oscar. Nobody is saying Lucas isnt great, no team pays 44million for a bad player, he is very good (alright, we pay 44million for a bad player, but that is another discussion). You cant deny Oscar was way more hyped, every youngster coach new about him when he was 15, not about former Marcelinho though.

Third, dont tell me Hulk havent won fairly his place. Yes, back at the Olyics everybody wanted to see Lucas, but the places have changed. Hulk totally deserved his starting place. Oscar on the other hand, just make Ganso look stupid. We all that! Ganso did not lived up to the expectations, Oscar did.

Fourth, I think you are misinderstanding. Nobody said he wont succeed or he is not inteligent or he is one dimensional. We are only saying Oscar is better (at least for now).

Enough with Moura vs Oscar, lest just concentrate on Oscar here!

Sorry about the name, i'm new at the forum, to be true, i never used one.

Aw man, mates, i don't wanna be the boring guy that just talk about one player... But i have to talk in this one...

I never ever was at Cotia, and never will, i am also a corinthians supporter. xD

I said hype in the time that both were exploding... Lucas at São Paulo and Oscar for Internacional, as i said, Oscar played the sub-20 while Lucas was with the principal team... Never said that one was better than the other, just commenting about the hype.

And yeah, Oscar was compared with Kaka and all, i remember, good times, São Paulo just kicked Liverpool lol.

I agree with you, i totally think that he deserves the starting place. And yeah, Ganso is having a bad time, this, since he started to have a lot of injuries... But before that, for what he played in 2010, omg, i would pick him instead of Neymar. But then he become injuried, Oscar received his chance and used it like a boss. =D

Oh yeah, almost forgot, Hulk deserves his place, He saved Mano Menezes a lot... Er... i mean, Brazil, he saved Brazil. lol

But okay, i stop now, let's go back to Oscar, really class, until where do you guys think he will go? What type of player and how much will he develop?

[Ollie 4,400]

I knew, watching him in the Olympics that he'd be great for us, i fell in love with him before i ever saw him in a blue shirt. When he was given Didier's shirt number, i knew this guy was gonna have a big part to play. The impact he has mate alongside Mata and Hazard in that trio in such a short time has been stunning.

[Peppen 934]

I shall dedicate my 200th post to this guy. What a gem we've got on hands ladies and gentlemen. I have to second Ollie's love for this guy. So young, and so massively talented that it's unrealistic. What a player he'll be able to turn into. Wet dreams even thinking about the future Chelsea front 6.....

Mikel - Ramires/De Bruyne

Oscar - Mata - Hazard

Bendtner (lol no, but choose any worldclass striker).

Anyways, Oscar you magician. Keep up the performances. Even though this certainly wasn't his best game, he has so much to offer. It will surely be a treat follow Chelsea the next couple of years that's for sure!

[Land 331]

As I said in the post match thread, they completely owned our midfield and our attack looked like crap after he came off.RDM took him off even though he was our best player out of the 4 forwards.