Oscar

[Pot Noodle 9]

Just Have Mikel or Romeu playing the DM role, stick ramires and oscar just ahead, ramires can run and hassle everyone from this position and also make those runs from deep. With oscar lying next to him and in a not too advanced position, he can pick up the ball and dictate play and also push up to help the attack when needed, with mata and hazard out wide and torres upfront, the lack of a person lying in the CAM role can be made up the runs and attacking of both oscar and ramires.

[dan200 1]

I saw Oscar play for Brazil during the Olympics. He really looked special but I couldn't pin point what role he was playing. It will be interesting to see what formation RDM uses to fit him, Hazard etc in the team

[warnie_666 1,081]

1.Spain left their best players at home, really? Other than Thiago (who is injured), who are these 'best players' they didn't bring?

2.Egypt and Korea are arguably better than Mexico.

3.On paper with the teams involved it look weak, yes. But they are better than you give them credit for. If these teams were so poor why have some of the supposed best players looked so average. Cavani was almost non-existent, Hulk has looked mediocre, Mata, Javi Martinez, Sturridge etc.

1. Seriously? Its an under 23 side. Spains best players are over 23.

2. Egypt rarely makes it to the WC and even if they do fail to go past group stages so does Korea. Mexico are consistently in round of 16 or Quarters.

3. Sorry but its not a Football Tournament and players of a certain class lack motivation. Its Olympic and is the reason why countries dont send their best players and is the reason why it is under 23. The fact they GB fans wanted David Beckham to play for the team talks alot about HOW SERIOUSLY PEOPLE TAKE FOOTBALL IN OLYMPICS.

[warnie_666 1,081]

Oscar will play the Xavi role in our team albit in a more exciting fashion.

Mata will be the Iniesta

while Eden Hazard will be the Messi.

[warnie_666 1,081]

Let's not be delusional here, that bunch would never have gone to the olympics after playing in the Euros and winning the whole thing. Our very own Juan Mata was one of their over-aged players and do you consider him to be shit?

Just looking at that Spain squad it was amazing they couldn't even qualify from their group but it's not because they didn't rate the competition and not bother giving their 100% performance on the pitch but rather because for some reason they just weren't good enough. Maybe they got cocky after their nation had won three of the last major international competitions at senior level and last year that same olympic squad won the U21 Euros or maybe it was something else. I don't know the reasons for their mediocre performances and honestly I don't really give a fuck but I'll just say this: if they didn't think the Olympics were a competition worthy of winning they wouldn't have sent out their best possible U23 squad. FFS they even had Jordi Alba in their team and he played every single minute of Euro2012 and had just signed for Barcelona, I'm sure going to pre-season with them would probably have been nice too but he chose the Olympics over that. Also, Mata had an exhausting season with Chelsea and a little rest would have done him good but he chose to go to the Olympics too. I could go on...

Again. No one gives a fuck about soccer in Olympics. It isnt the same as Euros and WC. Specially for star players like Alba, Mata. Ryan Giggs was shit too cus there is not that same excitement as you see in Euros, WC or Leagues.

Young prospects like Oscar, for them it is a big stage and they will put in their best show. But already proven stars dont give a fuck about Olympics. hence the no show of Cavani, Hulk, Giggs, Mata, Alba, etc.

[Jype 6,398]

Again. No one gives a fuck about soccer in Olympics. It isnt the same as Euros and WC. Specially for star players like Alba, Mata. Ryan Giggs was shit too cus there is not that same excitement as you see in Euros, WC or Leagues.

Young prospects like Oscar, for them it is a big stage and they will put in their best show. But already proven stars dont give a fuck about Olympics. hence the no show of Cavani, Hulk, Giggs, Mata, Alba, etc.

If those players you mentioned didn't give a fuck about the Olympics they would have stayed at home and had themselves a nice little relaxing holiday before going on pre-season with their clubs, simple as that. No one forced them to participate and they had every right to decline the call-up but instead they chose to go because they wanted to.

And remind me again, where has anyone ever said that the Olympics are as prestigious as the Euros or the World Cup? Clearly it is not but to the players who decided to go it's a competition they really wanted to win and if some players underperformed it may well be because some of them are arrogant and condescending cunts, not because there's something wrong with the tournament itself.

The way I see it, European nations probably don't take the competition as seriously as others because it always clashes with the Euros but to everyone else (mainly South Americans and Asians) it's the only major tournament of the year and they want to put on their best performance. I didn't expect Spain to come up with such a strong squad because most of their best players already played at the Euros only a month before the Olympics but to my surprise they did include the likes of Alba, Mata, Martinez etc. in their team. I don't know, maybe taking part in the Euros could have been partly at fault for them underperforming, not because they didn't give a fuck but because they had very little rest between the the club season and London2012 with all those training camps, friendly matches and then of course playing in the Euros in between.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Again. No one gives a fuck about soccer in Olympics. It isnt the same as Euros and WC. Specially for star players like Alba, Mata. Ryan Giggs was shit too cus there is not that same excitement as you see in Euros, WC or Leagues.

Young prospects like Oscar, for them it is a big stage and they will put in their best show. But already proven stars dont give a fuck about Olympics. hence the no show of Cavani, Hulk, Giggs, Mata, Alba, etc.

This is probably the most stupid and delusional post I've ever read.

Stop making all these ridiculous assumptions and trying to express it like they are facts.

Go watch Mata's performance and his body language again and tell me he didn't give a fuck! What an insult to Mata! Show some respects.

[JDY 1,290]

1. Seriously? Its an under 23 side. Spains best players are over 23.

2. Egypt rarely makes it to the WC and even if they do fail to go past group stages so does Korea. Mexico are consistently in round of 16 or Quarters.

3. Sorry but its not a Football Tournament and players of a certain class lack motivation. Its Olympic and is the reason why countries dont send their best players and is the reason why it is under 23. The fact they GB fans wanted David Beckham to play for the team talks alot about HOW SERIOUSLY PEOPLE TAKE FOOTBALL IN OLYMPICS.

1. I thought you and TC would have a bit more common sense than to name the players that were only recently vital in Spain's Euro campaign, hence why I was talking about Thiago being the only 'best' player they didn't bring.

2. What on earth has past World Cup success got to do with the quality of teams at this very competition? I said Egypt and S.Korea arguably have better teams than this Mexico one at this tournament.

3. Second guessing for the win. Do you have close relations to these players? How do you know if they are motivated or not. Absolutely ridiculous assumptions.

[Innarelli 24]

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Oscar would rather not go into detail about the London club. He just want to think about your first decision with the national team. But he talked about the fact that the blues give him the number 11, the same number used by Didier Drogba, striker of the club from 2004 to 2012.

- It's like I'm playing with the number 10 shirt in the national team. Chelsea is a great team and I can not keep thinking I'll go play with 11 of Drogba. I'm going to Chelsea to do my best and I'm sure thinking this way I will play as well as I have done here in the Brazilian National Team.

sorry for my english, this is my first post here :blue scalf:

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

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Oscar would rather not go into detail about the London club. He just want to think about your first decision with the national team. But he talked about the fact that the blues give him the number 11, the same number used by Didier Drogba, striker of the club from 2004 to 2012.

- It's like I'm playing with the number 10 shirt in the national team. Chelsea is a great team and I can not keep thinking I'll go play with 11 of Drogba. I'm going to Chelsea to do my best and I'm sure thinking this way I will play as well as I have done here in the Brazilian National Team.

sorry for my english, this is my first post here :blue scalf:

More Brazilian players, more Brazilian fans. Welcome sir!

Oscar is an intelligent player and sounds like a smart dude as well. He'll do good!

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Oscar would rather not go into detail about the London club. He just want to think about your first decision with the national team. But he talked about the fact that the blues give him the number 11, the same number used by Didier Drogba, striker of the club from 2004 to 2012.

- It's like I'm playing with the number 10 shirt in the national team. Chelsea is a great team and I can not keep thinking I'll go play with 11 of Drogba. I'm going to Chelsea to do my best and I'm sure thinking this way I will play as well as I have done here in the Brazilian National Team.

sorry for my english, this is my first post here :blue scalf:

welcome and your english is fine

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

[warnie_666 1,081]

1. I thought you and TC would have a bit more common sense than to name the players that were only recently vital in Spain's Euro campaign, hence why I was talking about Thiago being the only 'best' player they didn't bring.

2. What on earth has past World Cup success got to do with the quality of teams at this very competition? I said Egypt and S.Korea arguably have better teams than this Mexico one at this tournament.

3. Second guessing for the win. Do you have close relations to these players? How do you know if they are motivated or not. Absolutely ridiculous assumptions.

1. I am not going to state all the top Spanish players. Any football fan would know that this spanish side is nothing compared to the actual spanish side.

2. What on earth makes you think Korea and Egypt have "arguably" better sides than Mexico. What do you base your argument on?

3. I am not second guessing. Its is easy to see what motivates players and what not. And it explains why high profile players and established players in most teams have failed to shine. If you have played sports on a competitive level you would know what I am saying.

[warnie_666 1,081]

1. If those players you mentioned didn't give a fuck about the Olympics they would have stayed at home and had themselves a nice little relaxing holiday before going on pre-season with their clubs, simple as that. No one forced them to participate and they had every right to decline the call-up but instead they chose to go because they wanted to.

2. And remind me again, where has anyone ever said that the Olympics are as prestigious as the Euros or the World Cup? Clearly it is not but to the players who decided to go it's a competition they really wanted to win and if some players underperformed it may well be because some of them are arrogant and condescending cunts, not because there's something wrong with the tournament itself.

The way I see it, European nations probably don't take the competition as seriously as others because it always clashes with the Euros but to everyone else (mainly South Americans and Asians) it's the only major tournament of the year and they want to put on their best performance. I didn't expect Spain to come up with such a strong squad because most of their best players already played at the Euros only a month before the Olympics but to my surprise they did include the likes of Alba, Mata, Martinez etc. in their team. I don't know, maybe taking part in the Euros could have been partly at fault for them underperforming, not because they didn't give a fuck but because they had very little rest between the the club season and London2012 with all those training camps, friendly matches and then of course playing in the Euros in between.

1. Its not in their hands. A Player simply cant say, oh its olympics Im not going. Its just stupid and will be crucified in the media. Its so obvious I am baffled you even raising that point. Your FA has got you in the side that represents your country in Olympics. Would you tell the FA Fuck it...I am goign on a holiday? may be you would going by your argument. but those players wouldnt.

2. Again its NOT the players who decide to go. Its not in their hands. Its their respective Nation's FA that decides. I never said there is something wrong with Olympics. Its something that people take for granted. And the calls for Beckham's inclusion make it quite apparent as to how seriously people take Soccer in Olympics.

3. Now you are talking sense and contradicting your earlier argument. Europeans dont take it seriously. But again when you say most of Spain's players played in Euros I am looking at Puyol, Casillas, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Pedro, etc missing from the Olympics. Point to me which are these "most players from Spain".

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1. Nothing compared to the senior side, but it is nearly the best U23 side they could name considering the circumstances. So both of you are right.

2. Don't know about Egypt, but Korea outplayed Mexico for majority of the game, so it's definitely arguable that they have better side than Mexico

3. Not sure what you two are trying to say. Think it was pretty clear that everyone participating in the Olympics was motivated to do well. Spain was, Team GB was, and Brazil for sure was.. and the list goes on

[warnie_666 1,081]

This is probably the most stupid and delusional post I've ever read.

Stop making all these ridiculous assumptions and trying to express it like they are facts.

Go watch Mata's performance and his body language again and tell me he didn't give a fuck! What an insult to Mata! Show some respects.

It is NOT stupid. When I say players arent motivated that doesnt mean they stop running and shooting. It means they dont give it their best not because they do not want to but because they cant. It is psychological. It explains why smaller sides from division two beat top teams in FA CUP and CC.

Not making ridiculous assumptions. How about you explain me why established stars that play European football have failed to perform in Olympics.?

I dont have to watch anyone performance. And Mata is not the only player on the field running around with the ball.

[warnie_666 1,081]

3. Not sure what you two are trying to say. Think it was pretty clear that everyone participating in the Olympics was motivated to do well. Spain was, Team GB was, and Brazil for sure was.. and the list goes on

3. Its like saying everyone participating in CC are motivated to win it. Yes they are in it to win it. But motivation levels differ when you play Oldham Athletic away in CC and Manchester United Away in the league.Similarly, all teams in the Olympics are in it to win it but motivational levels differ

[Kieran. 6,317]

Both of you, shut the fuck up.

[Jype 6,398]

1. Its not in their hands. A Player simply cant say, oh its olympics Im not going. Its just stupid and will be crucified in the media. Its so obvious I am baffled you even raising that point. Your FA has got you in the side that represents your country in Olympics. Would you tell the FA Fuck it...I am goign on a holiday? may be you would going by your argument. but those players wouldnt.

2. Again its NOT the players who decide to go. Its not in their hands. Its their respective Nation's FA that decides. I never said there is something wrong with Olympics. Its something that people take for granted. And the calls for Beckham's inclusion make it quite apparent as to how seriously people take Soccer in Olympics.

3. Now you are talking sense and contradicting your earlier argument. Europeans dont take it seriously. But again when you say most of Spain's players played in Euros I am looking at Puyol, Casillas, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Pedro, etc missing from the Olympics. Point to me which are these "most players from Spain".

1. It is exactly in their own hands. Or are you seriously telling me that if Mata, Alba or Martinez had told the Spanish FA they're not interested in playing at the Olympics after an exhausting season with their clubs and then going to the Euros straight after that, they would have been crucified by the media? That's bullshit and everyone apart from you seems to understand it. Your point could be valid if a player who wasn't good enough to be called up for the Euros started bitching about not wanting to play in the Olympics after being denied the chance of taking part in the better competition, but that's not really the case here and every U23 player not good enough for the senior squad will work their ass off to play whatever games are available for them and try to impress enough to be called up to the seniors. An U23 player declining to go to a tournament could send out bad signals about the player's attitude and that could hurt his chances of ever making it to senior level but if he's already a regular with the big boys he really doesn't have anything left to prove and he can make up his mind on whether he wants to take part in the lesser competition or not. All the players mentioned above opted to go even though they didn't have to and no one could have blamed them had they stayed at home. They did the best they could but this time it simply wasn't enough. Their emotions during the matches clearly showed they wanted to win and if they didn't care, I'm sure they would have given the chance to someone else and let some other player fulfill their dreams.

2. You keep going on about Beckham and whatnot. For fuck's sake, that wasn't even a proper England national team but instead some plastic mixture of all UK and you don't even get proper international caps to your CV for playing there. If memory serves, the FA decided early on that for the sake of all English clubs, they don't call up any players who played in the Euros to keep them as fresh as possible for the new season looming ahead. You have to understand that Britain doesn't have that many world-class footballers these days and since most of them already played at the Euros or were injured, they had to opt for some second-rate players who had already retired from international football or are just not good enough to play in the real England team. Mind you, England had players like Henderson and Downing at the Euros so what did you expect from Team GB if they couldn't even call up shit players like that?

3. You do realize that the Olympics are mainly a U23 tournament and including the absolute best players of their whole nation is impossible with the limit of three over-aged players? From their U23 players they had the very best of the generation and from what I understand only Thiago Alcantara was missing, but that was only because he is injured and had to be replaced. By saying in my earlier post that most of Spain's best players already played at the Euros, I did mean exactly that bunch you mentioned. They could not include them in the Olympics because you can't honestly expect that the likes of Xavi, Iniesta etc. will play two major international competitions within a month when they already play a shitload of games every year with Barcelona / RM and they really need to have at least some time off from football between seasons. Some of the younger guys who were called up for the Euros (again the same players mentioned countless of times already) don't need as much rest as +30 year olds and apart from Alba they didn't even play that much, but again I emphazise the fact they didn't have to go but instead they wanted to.

I rest my case. No point going on about this (especially in Oscar's thread) when you simply can't be reasoned with.