Oscar 441 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Both are slow yes.Ibrahimovic and Crouch are both tall.What kind of comparisson is that?One played in spain and england, the other was bad enough to never leave brazil (injury played its part, but its not the only thing).Mata is performing in PL and the other in brazil. Mata is miles ahead in technique and intelligence.If you like or dislike Mata, it doesnt mean you do the same for Ganso. The guy never acheieved anything, while Mata had great career at Valencia and Chelsea. Just because both are slow it doesnt mean they are similar. Ganso wouldnt be only slow in PL but also invisible because he aint good enough.Apples and oranges realy.Ganso passing ability/vision is just as good if not better than mata and he dribbles better than Mata.You probably never seen Ganso play. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Ganso passing ability/vision is just as good if not better than mata and he dribbles better than Mata.You probably never seen Ganso play.I saw him before his injury, back when he was playing along Neymar at santos.But to say he has better vision and ability than Mata? He plays in brazil league. Fucking fred was their top striker sometime ago. Pato is genius with 22 goals this season if i remember correctlyThere is a reason why he moved to sao paulo instead of europe. If he was good enough, he would play in better league. Simple as that. Regardless if he is slow. Many players who are good are slow too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I saw him before his injury, back when he was playing along Neymar at santos.But to say he has better vision and ability than Mata? He plays in brazil league. Fucking fred was their top striker sometime ago. Pato is genius with 22 goals this season if i remember correctlyThere is a reason why he moved to sao paulo instead of europe. If he was good enough, he would play in better league. Simple as that. Regardless if he is slow. Many players who are good are slow too.Brazil produces the best players in the world, so to disregard their league is nonsense. People disregarded neymar's scoring output in brazil, but in barcelona he already does the same. Passing and vision was never in question with Ganso or even technique/dribbling, it was everything else that was. Brazil is a tricky place with players and third party ownership..... Some guys like the shaktar brazilians make mistakes going to Europe and other guys like ganso and demaio want too much money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It doesn't matter how 'good' or 'bad' a league is. Talented players come from everywhere and anywhere. To judge a league on how many talented players emerge from it is weird. MrBlueGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Brazil produces the best players in the world, so to disregard their league is nonsense. People disregarded neymar's scoring output in brazil, but in barcelona he already does the same. Passing and vision was never in question with Ganso or even technique/dribbling, it was everything else that was. Brazil is a tricky place with players and third party ownership..... Some guys like the shaktar brazilians make mistakes going to Europe and other guys like ganso and demaio want too much money...We are not in the 90's and early 2000 anymore. Neymar and Tiago silva are the only world class players brazil has managed to produce in the last 6 years or so. MrBlueGuy, yuvala, Reddish-Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 True no. 10 or not, I feel our pressing from midfield works a lot better with him on the pitch. With him and Matic working in tandem, Fabregas is almost completely free of any defensive duties. Oscar's tackling is probably much better than even Ramires' right now, even though the latter is supposed to be one of our more defensive minded midfielders. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted September 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted September 19, 2015 Oscar plays, Chelsea wins. Again. It was said he didn't matter. Well... MrBlueGuy, Blue_Fox_, bluesman2610 and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Oscar plays, Chelsea wins. Again. It was said he didn't matter. Well...I just think exactly same. Oscar did many in defence and many in offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We are not in the 90's and early 2000 anymore. Neymar and Tiago silva are the only world class players brazil has managed to produce in the last 6 years or so.UMMM... Brazil has produce better talent than any country bar Spain in the last decade or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Wasn't at his best today in delivering the final ball, could have put Costa clean through at least twice in the half they were playing to the MH stand, but he still pressed well and released Fabregas, who also seems to play markedly better when Oscar is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Watched some extended highlights, he didn't look impressive at all. But he lack of sharpness is expected after an injury following the first match of official matches. He should sharpen some, but I think it could be a big coincidence that ever since he came back our pivot players look better, no matter who they actually are? But we can't talk about balance. that's the forbid word because it's a big farce. bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Watched some extended highlights, he didn't look impressive at all. But he lack of sharpness is expected after an injury following the first match of official matches. He should sharpen some, but I think it could be a big coincidence that ever since he came back our pivot players look better, no matter who they actually are? But we can't talk about balance. that's the forbid word because it's a big farce. Why you keep making so many comments based on highlights, my ladie? Hybrid Angel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 We are not in the 90's and early 2000 anymore. Neymar and Tiago silva are the only world class players brazil has managed to produce in the last 6 years or so.Hulk is world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Why you keep making so many comments based on highlights, my ladie?well, I couldn't watch the match yet, but the very little I saw from here in those, he wasn't impressive at all. I read he was good defensively, offered space and cover for pivot players, and that's all he normally does well anyway. How did he play overall in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 well, I couldn't watch the match yet, but the very little I saw from here in those, he wasn't impressive at all. I read he was good defensively, offered space and cover for pivot players, and that's all he normally does well anyway. How did he play overall in your opinion?The team was terrible. Oscar dissapeared. So, he was on pair with the rest of team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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