didierforever 7,349 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 your opinion not automatically the factwhich part exactly?the part that she voted for oscar as motm?or the part that oscar has a lot of "potential" but has not yet reproduced it!!! or maybe this is the best of oscar we have been seeing for the past 8 months nowor that he does score goals/assist as much as ozil/mata? those are facts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 which part exactly? the part that she voted for oscar as motm? or the part that oscar has a lot of "potential" but has not yet reproduced it!!! or maybe this is the best of oscar we have been seeing for the past months now or that he does score goals/assist as much as ozil/mata? those are facts!!! THE IMMENSE NUMBER OF NEGATIVES ... not a fact your one eyed opinion jeronimo, TheIceMan, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 i dont think she said so. infact, she has actually voted for oscar as her MOTM in the match thread.oscar is the no.1 no.10 for chelsea and brazil cos he has "potential" something which he is clearly not reproducing on the pitch. no.10s are supposed to be the most important players of the team oscar is far from it right now.infact oscar is not a no.10 like ozil and mata are. he wont have their number of goals and assists. what he does have is phenomenol workrate and most importantly link up play. but on days like these when his touches and decision making is as bad as it was, he becomes a liability to the team. he is the main link between our defence and the forwards, and when he plays poor, the team will tend to be poor. also, any positives from this 20 minute spell can not outweigh the immense number of negatives that oscar has had over the 8 months.out of interest, if there was an indian on our team, you would naturally want him to do well right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 out of interest, if there was an indian on our team, you would naturally want him to do well right? if he was our keeper I would have nightmares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 go to the first page of the match thread. i said "my team". and oscar simply proved why it would have been the best thing. but like i said, lets wait for the everton game for what team jose sends out. and for chelsea's sake i hope it does not have oscar anywhere near it. it snot just about winning combo but actually gicing a fair chance. and both of us know jose enough to know that he loves sticking to a the same team. infact forget about jose, most of the teams that played today played the same team that they played last week. u just dont go chop and change after one game. common sense, i would say so. cos none of the players' performances was as horrendous as oscar. none of them have been a tenth as poor as oscar has been over the course of 8 months. how difficult is that to understand? dont u worry about me. i will still support chelsea. whats more i still support torres when he is on the pitch as much asi would support iva. but considering some of your comments and posts, i know how u would react if our "golden boy" does not start, especially for rambo. You obviously didn't watch the game, and if you did, you probably didn't watch the second half. TheIceMan, Barbara and sherry33 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You bitches should stop whining and enjoy the victory. kellzfresh, Daniel1980, iseah100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It was annoying when he went to retrieve the ball from the defence, and lost it with a stupid pass under no pressure. Otherwise he was quiet in the 1st half, but did some good things in the 2nd and deserved to score. Dion and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB0X3R 12 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I really rate Oscar and thought he was the best player for Brazil in the WC after Neymar got injured. I also think he is our best #10. He didn't have a great overall game, but he had a couple of good chances. I think Willian should get a shot on the 10 role next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I hate the master tacticians stance. Your opinion is being questioned. Stand with it, you don't need to label people.Good guy greg. Just harmless banter mate hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Oscars bird looks like a lady boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgleo 90 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 i dont think she said so. infact, she has actually voted for oscar as her MOTM in the match thread.oscar is the no.1 no.10 for chelsea and brazil cos he has "potential" something which he is clearly not reproducing on the pitch. no.10s are supposed to be the most important players of the team oscar is far from it right now.infact oscar is not a no.10 like ozil and mata are. he wont have their number of goals and assists. what he does have is phenomenol workrate and most importantly link up play. but on days like these when his touches and decision making is as bad as it was, he becomes a liability to the team. he is the main link between our defence and the forwards, and when he plays poor, the team will tend to be poor. also, any positives from this 20 minute spell can not outweigh the immense number of negatives that oscar has had over the 8 months. I see but don't you think it's right that our club and manager wants a young player with high potential to develop and become an integral part of the team we are building ?? I would be a fool if I said Oscar is better than your preferred no. 10's Ozil/Mata but I know which of these players play for my team and therefore need to support the positives of him, not slate him for every mistake he does. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Oscars bird looks like a lady boy That's a man in a wig, I'm sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 You obviously didn't watch the game, and if you did, you probably didn't watch the second half.I did watch the game. Like I have watched every gane this year. 20minutes vs 8 months. And again, why do people keep forgetting HOW poor he was in the first half. The number of times he lost the ball and made us circumspect to counters. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 out of interest, if there was an indian on our team, you would naturally want him to do well right?I definitely would want him to succeed. But not at the the cost of the team's success. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! hjperdeath 2,226 Posted August 24, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 24, 2014 Easy not to forget how bad he was, but its easy to forget how good he was in the second. Also was easy to forget how 10 other players were bad in the first half... ZOS, Muzchap, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yup - I wanted him hooked in the first half - but second half it looked like the 'real' Oscar turned up.I cannot believe that c**t Tony Gayle made a GREAT COMMENT in yesterday's match.He said - our coach told us - we might only get 6-7 games a season where everything clicks and all players are on it.That's like 10% of the season..I think we need to be realistic about this and understand we only need 15 mins of magic to score a few... The longer we keep these players and the longer we keep Mourinho, I would expect that % to rise - but that's the reality right now. kellzfresh and Chelsea? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I did watch the game. Like I have watched every gane this year. 20minutes vs 8 months. And again, why do people keep forgetting HOW poor he was in the first half. The number of times he lost the ball and made us circumspect to counters.I thought we were discussing today's game here, not the last 8 months? And why are you acting like he was the only poor player in the first half? Like he was the only player to lose the ball when plenty of others did the same? Barbara, jeronimo and Chelsea? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted August 24, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 24, 2014 Not read the whole thread but he was no poorer than most of the other players in the first half to be quite honest, but that ball for Ivanovic for the opener was everything I've wanted to see from him. It was incisive, perfectly weighted and if it was Cesc then everyone would be gushing over it.The lad was unlucky not to score with the shot that hit the post and also put in at least one excellent tackle to stop a Leicester break. I said before that he's playing a new role and what we needed to see was progression and I think we got just that. He's got to keep it going. jeronimo, kellzfresh, Chelsea? and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I thought we were discussing today's game here, not the last 8 months? And why are you acting like he was the only poor player in the first half? Like he was the only player to lose the ball when plenty of others did the same?we are discussing oscar here. which includes 20 minutes of good play and months of crap. he was not our only poor player but he was the worst of our players. he is the link man for our attacks. azpi had his hands full and could not link up at all with hazard who was isolated for the majority of the 1st half, schurrle is more of a runner. the onus will always be on oscar and cesc to build an attack but when your main man loses the ball almost every time he touches it, the team is bound to look poor. hence the reaction. he is someone who is not going to score and assist much, but he is important in the build up and the link up play. but when he puts in such performance, its not schocking that we looked this poor in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 But he is important in the build up and the link up play. but when he puts in such performance, its not schocking that we looked this poor in the first half.And no one disagrees with that. But it wasn't just him who was poor in the first - our other midfield generals in Matic and Fabregas lost numerous of balls themselves. It's like you're pinning the bad first half performance solely on Oscar which is completely untrue. There were others who were just as poor, if not even worse. It's just incredible how you're just focusing on the poor (and almost completely blaming Oscar for the first half) and not giving Oscar any credit for turning around his performance. Barbara, The only place to be, iseah100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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