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Surely we must be loaning him back for at least 2 years if we're signing him. We won't be able to give him game time with Cole still fit and able.

Cole's contract is expiring next year and he's not even that good anymore, would replace him with Shaw without hesitation next year if we already had both players in our ranks and the option was between releasing Cole and recalling Shaw from loan or extending Cole's massive contract and having Shaw remain on loan.

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Shaw because Baines is 29 later this year.

if you're good enough you're old enough is used for kids, but the same applies for older players.

Baines has at least 4-5 TOP CLASS years in him yet... Most contracts are 3-4 years

So remove age - is Shaw better than Baines? ;)

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Shaw is a lot younger than Baines so I would say Shaw

Take age out of the equation - we are talking about building a squad to win the EPL next season...

You got 1 pick... Baines or Shaw - age doesn't matter in this hypothetical sense...

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With Southampton staying up, I very much doubt Shaw would be leaving this summer. Staying there is clearly the best option for him, imo. He gets another full season in the PL instead of rotting on some bench.

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Take age out of the equation - we are talking about building a squad to win the EPL next season...

You got 1 pick... Baines or Shaw - age doesn't matter in this hypothetical sense...

In that sense, neither. I'd just play Cole.

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In that sense, neither. I'd just play Cole.

I actually think Ash has been poor this season and would prefer Baines, I like Shaw but he could be a flash in the pan, Baines has proved consistent year after year at LB

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^ absolutely. Also think that Bertrand could do with a loan so we can assess PVA as the understudy to Cole.

Bertrand has played 150 games on loan, lack of experience is not his problem. Why take a player out who is already a part of the squad and replace him with s.o. who is not?

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You cannot NOT take age into consideration when signing players. Elite prospect who's a legit PL starter at age of 17 is an easy choice over a 28 y/o especially when the position's not even our priority.

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I actually think Ash has been poor this season and would prefer Baines, I like Shaw but he could be a flash in the pan, Baines has proved consistent year after year at LB

Cole is obviously not the player he once was and doesn't have the legs to make runs for 90 mins and help the attack, but defensively, I think he's still miles ahead of both. I'm actually surprised how well he's done consider he's been left exposed for most of the games by the lack of tracking by our wingers (but that's a long debate for another time). I believe that if you want to win a league, you need a back four that are solid defensively, especially the fullbacks. I was never on board with the notion of "modern" fullbacks that turn into wingers on the attack and leave the team exposed.

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By the way, if we sign him this summer, I believe he can still qualify as club-trained because he's still 17. I'd say it's pretty significant considering the number of foreign players we keep buying. That's why I wouldn't mind Rooney and Shaw. We got some good English talents in our academy, but could still definitely use more English signings.

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