Eden Hazard

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

12 minutes ago, El P. said:

Yes, sack Conte for Hazard to be happy, and bring manager that can play like Barcelona with this team. Lol. If he had played as AMF, he would not touch the ball 4 times, yes, he would touch it 7-8 times.
People are still not aware how shit our squad is and that Man City has the best squad since Pep's Barcelona and double-UCL winning Real Madrid. They are THAT level, God-ish level.

They were very sloppy yesterday and we would had a good chance of getting something if our manager showed any ambition.

 

 

They were also without their record signing Fullback(Mendy), their midfield rock(Fernandinho), and their best(this season at least) attacking player Sterling.

 

This team was there for the taking today if he we started with a striker and tried to play football.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

3 minutes ago, El P. said:

Yes, sack Conte for Hazard to be happy, and bring manager that can play like Barcelona with this team. Lol. If he had played as AMF, he would not touch the ball 4 times, yes, he would touch it 7-8 times.

People are still not aware how shit our squad is and that Man City has the best squad since Pep's Barcelona and double-UCL winning Real Madrid. They are THAT level, God-ish level.

People are well aware of how good City are and how poor we are. Regardless of that you need to show some ambition and willingness to fight for 3 points or at the very least try and salvage a draw.

We went down 1-0 at the start of the second half. With the set up we had we weren't creating anything yet Conte didn't even try to change things. He didn't even try to salvage a point until the 75 th minute. Half an hour !!! after we conceded the goal. 

It was just soo obvious that he wasn't interested in a point he just wanted to keep the score as low as possible. 

[LAM09 6,744]

 
 
They were also without their record signing Fullback(Mendy), their midfield rock(Fernandinho), and their best(this season at least) attacking player Sterling.
 
This team was there for the taking today if he we started with a striker and tried to play football.

Exactly. Wigan offered more and they got a deserved result.

[Styles 9,790]

The worst thing that happened to us before this match is City's comprehensive beating of Arsenal over two games. Because that really scared Conte and confirmed his approach. Just sickening, man. That coward doesn't have a single ounce of professional pride.

[robsblubot 3,502]

With all the caveats out of the way, including the false 9 thing, it was a pretty poor performance against city. He was good against Barca, but not this time.

contrary to others here, I don’t really give two fucks about whether he’s thinking about real or doesn’t like contes tactics, his performance was not good enough esp considering his importance and role in the team.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

The problem with Hazard as a false 9 is that he’s getting mostly route 1 balls, which basically minimizes the chance that Chelsea will maintain possession. 

The rest of the team hasn’t shown the ability to bring the ball up, pass to Hazard at the edge of the 18, and make runs into the box to be played through. 

It appears that spending has been reigned in but the young potential talent hasn’t been brought into the team as needed. 

Granted getting De Bruyne and Courtois for less than 14 million pounds in total was the steal of the century.

It just doesn’t seem that Chelsea has been able to lure young talent from the 19-22 bracket or at least young contributingbtalent save for Christensen.

 

 

 

[Blue Armour 4,278]

1 hour ago, Robguima said:

With all the caveats out of the way, including the false 9 thing, it was a pretty poor performance against city. He was good against Barca, but not this time.

contrary to others here, I don’t really give two fucks about whether he’s thinking about real or doesn’t like contes tactics, his performance was not good enough esp considering his importance and role in the team.

Well when you say performance, its mostly off-the ball performance right?

Because that's what it was. Until Giroud came on for the final 10 mins making him drop deep in midfield to receive the ball, there was no service for him whatsoever.

[robsblubot 3,502]

57 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Well when you say performance, its mostly off-the ball performance right?

Because that's what it was. Until Giroud came on for the final 10 mins making him drop deep in midfield to receive the ball, there was no service for him whatsoever.

Yes and no.

my point is that it does not matter that much. I feel that Eden can do no wrong here, while it should be the other way around: he is the key player on higher wages and enjoys more of a free role, and folks pit him as a top5 player. It’s just odd that those statements are usually followed by false9, poor tactics, or lack of overall quality of the squad.

I fully understand these things can affect his performance, but using as an excuse for his disinterested showing against city does not work in my head.

[Tomo 21,733]

11 hours ago, El P. said:

Yes, sack Conte for Hazard to be happy, and bring manager that can play like Barcelona with this team. Lol. If he had played as AMF, he would not touch the ball 4 times, yes, he would touch it 7-8 times.

People are still not aware how shit our squad is and that Man City has the best squad since Pep's Barcelona and double-UCL winning Real Madrid. They are THAT level, God-ish level.

Hazard > any manager.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

8 hours ago, LukakutoStamford said:

The problem with Hazard as a false 9 is that he’s getting mostly route 1 balls, which basically minimizes the chance that Chelsea will maintain possession. 

The rest of the team hasn’t shown the ability to bring the ball up, pass to Hazard at the edge of the 18, and make runs into the box to be played through. 

It appears that spending has been reigned in but the young potential talent hasn’t been brought into the team as needed. 

Granted getting De Bruyne and Courtois for less than 14 million pounds in total was the steal of the century.

It just doesn’t seem that Chelsea has been able to lure young talent from the 19-22 bracket or at least young contributingbtalent save for Christensen.

 

 

 

 

14M for a player worth around 250M and a goalkeeper worth around 100M. It's ridiculous indeed

[Styles 9,790]

9 hours ago, Robguima said:

Yes and no.

my point is that it does not matter that much. I feel that Eden can do no wrong here, while it should be the other way around: he is the key player on higher wages and enjoys more of a free role, and folks pit him as a top5 player. It’s just odd that those statements are usually followed by false9, poor tactics, or lack of overall quality of the squad.

I fully understand these things can affect his performance, but using as an excuse for his disinterested showing against city does not work in my head.

How can an attacking player be anything but disinterested when his team is set up the way they were on Sunday? You could have replaced Hazard with any of the all-time great attacking players and they would have performed no better. Sunday was a shambles and further proves why Hazard has to leave this summer. You cannot be that good and waste your prime years playing that kind of football every time your club  comes across decent opposition.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

On 05/03/2018 at 6:13 AM, manpe said:

How did he snub Conte? Did I miss something?

No handshake when he came off, didn't even look towards him or acknowledge him. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

22 hours ago, Jason said:

I get that Hazard is our best player but I'm not sure if there's anything more exasperating than people making the club as if it's 'Eden Hazard FC' rather than 'Chelsea FC'. Yeah, it's probably obvious that he'll leave some time soon but every time when we don't win, people can't wait to say "Hazard doesn't deserve this", "Hazard deserves better", "Hazard should go elsewhere where his quality will be better used" bla bla bla. EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE. TIME. 

Aye true, nobody has mentioned in the last 3 big games he's only shown up for 45 minutes. System, defensive approach or whatever, that is shocking for a player of his ability. 

[jernej93 565]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Aye true, nobody has mentioned in the last 3 big games he's only shown up for 45 minutes. System, defensive approach or whatever, that is shocking for a player of his ability. 

You have to keep in mind that all attacking players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc. don't run that much and don't need to cover so much ground as Hazard in our system... 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

No handshake when he came off, didn't even look towards him or acknowledge him. 

Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him?

[Styles 9,790]

49 minutes ago, Jason said:

Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him?

He was too embarrassed to look at Hazard.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him?

Think it went both ways. They were both pretty annoyed at each other by looks of it. Not surprised one bit, Eden seemed to continuously be shouting over to the touch lines and Conte was more often than not shouting at Eden haha. Or the amount of times I heard it through the tv I'd say he was doing it a lot. 

[Jase 43,479]

25 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Think it went both ways. They were both pretty annoyed at each other by looks of it. Not surprised one bit, Eden seemed to continuously be shouting over to the touch lines and Conte was more often than not shouting at Eden haha. Or the amount of times I heard it through the tv I'd say he was doing it a lot. 

So, it's basically a non-story then? They may have some issues behind closed doors but it's hardly new that manager and player don't acknowledge one another when the latter gets taken off.