🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, dreamcfc said:

Don't believe any of it, so we're back to talking about Hazard bids, what happened to Courtois?

This has only been so big of a story all week off the interviews they both gave after the WC, since then, nothing has been said and it's just repeated bullshit, everyone making up fees etc, with just over 2 weeks left on the transfer window, if these where going, surely we would have something more concrete to talk about by now, don't expect me to believe that we will discuss what they want to do when they return from holidays, that gives us what, less than a week to sell and replace them? Can't see it happening some how.
 

Courtois will only go if we can find a replacement, according to Kristof. But god knows who that replacement is gonna be. There have been some underwhelming names mentioned.

[akgw13 867]

3 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

get his replacement in a.s.a.p. even if he then stays is not like we can`t use upgrades in our front 3.the longer we hold on for a higher price the less time we have to replace him in this window..plus teams will over inflate the price once we have that major fee we`ll get for him and less time to spend it.

for me if we going to play a 4-3-3 again ,longterm we have CHO but we still need 2 or 3 others for those edges..i`m intrigued by the thought of Pedro under Sarri but he`s only a short term fix for a year or two.

 

For the record, I want Hazard to sign a new deal. It is looking like he wants this move, and frankly I don't blame him. He has not made a fuss through a chaotic Chelsea time, and he is being a good soldier now. If Madrid wants to offer Asensio + 100-125m I am taking the deal. I am selling Willian to Barca for 60-70m. That puts anywhere from 160-190m in the chest for immediate spend. I am bringing in Milinkovic-Savic(100m), Fekir(60m) and/or Leon Bailey(50m). It resets our team age to all grow together and we can make better use of our academy. Will we win a trophy next year? probably not, unless its Europa. But we will be set up for an extremely bright future. 

Core of Team Moving Forward

GK: Donnarumma or Schmeichel 

Defenders: Azpi(CAPTAIN), Rugani, Rudiger, Christensen, Emerson, Moses

Midfield: Milinkovic-Savic, Jorginho, Kante, Golovin, RLC, Bakayoko, Barkley

Attackers: Asensio, Leon Bailey(or Fekir or both), Hudson-Odoi, Mount

Strikers: Higuain, Bats, Tammy

That is potentially one of the best midfields in the world, Some of the brightest young exciting attackers, and Some strikers with a nose for the goal. This is purely a hypothetical, its more just my thoughts on what we should do in an unfortunate situation. 

[Jype 6,398]

Ideal scenario would be if Sarri were to convince Hazard to stay and sign that new contract with however much wages he asks for and maybe even containing a 'reasonable' release clause (in the €150M ballpark) for foreign clubs next summer. Kind of like Griezmann with Atletico last year, and as it turns out he ended up not even wanting to move when the time came.

That way the club would get to enjoy Eden for at least another year without having to worry about losing him for peanuts next year, but it would be with a written guarantee that the club wouldn't stand in his way if he still wanted to go this time in 2019 as long as someone paid the clause.

But IF he's sold this summer, the next couple of weeks are crucial. Bailey, Brandt, Lozano, Pulisic, Dembele would be where I'd look for a replacement and get one (or two) from that bunch, depending on who's available.

[OneMoSalah 9,122]

7 hours ago, DDA said:

Don't forget we have Callum Hudson-Odoi.

That lad is going to be a huge star here. 

We need a ready made, experienced replacemrnt yes but talk of us not having a player of huge quality for quite some time once Eden leaves is wrong.

I think it is truly time for a new era at Chels. 

If Eden goes, then milk it for all he is worth and do it this summer. 

As much as I will miss the guy, we are still Chelsea F.C and we will still fight to be top dogs of England and Europe. 

Exactly. Isn't the first time and won't be the last time we lose a top player. 170M if it is agreed, is a great deal for us if we reinvest it correctly. Which has to be done now. Fair enough there aren't many Edens out there but personally there are more than enough attacking players in the world to find someone who could grow into something special. 

[akgw13 867]

5 minutes ago, Mana said:

We may not win a trophy next season, but it is critical that we get top 4 next season, absolutely critical. Failure to get it will cause a further chain reaction of players leaving.

Agreed, expectation every year has to be at a minimum top 4. I am nervous going into the season, top 6 is as competitive as ever and we are coming from a weaker position. New manager, unrest in the squad. I am excited for the season, but also nervous.

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea have seemingly suggested that Eden Hazard is likely to stay at Stamford Bridge this season after heavily featuring him in the launch of their new away kit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/chelsea-transfer-news-eden-hazard-new-kit-away-launch-nike-yellow-website-a8456341.html

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

"Just a dribbler" 

[Tomo 21,754]

I would say it's worth the risk keeping him and potentially selling him for peanuts next summer for two reasons.

1. There's every chance he will enjoy it enough under Sarri and change his mind DDG style.

2. But if he is still intent on leaving come next summer we should touch wood have a good enough attacking philosophy implemented to minimize the loss as much as humanly possible.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

I would say it's worth the risk keeping him and potentially selling him for peanuts next summer for two reasons.

1. There's every chance he will enjoy it enough under Sarri and change his mind DDG style.

2. But if he is still intent on leaving come next summer we should touch wood have a good enough attacking philosophy implemented to minimize the loss as much as humanly possible.

I think he'll stay and sign a new deal. Like you say it's worth the risk. Right now it would put us in such a poor position should we sell him now. 

The style we're currently looking to play fits him perfectly and most of Hazard's frustrations we've seen or heard have been because of our negative hoofball tactics (especially in big games)

[Panic 57]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I would say it's worth the risk keeping him and potentially selling him for peanuts next summer for two reasons.

1. There's every chance he will enjoy it enough under Sarri and change his mind DDG style.

2. But if he is still intent on leaving come next summer we should touch wood have a good enough attacking philosophy implemented to minimize the loss as much as humanly possible.

Should also add that if Madrid don't have a replacement for Ronaldo by then, they will not be in as strong of a bargaining position as they are now. Their fans want a big name to come and the club may very well be desperate to sign a huge name. That means if Chelsea play hardball again next summer, Madrid could be forced to look somewhere else because I doubt that they will wait 2 years to replace Ronaldo.

It's also worth considering how sought after Mbappe will be. The World Cup has only increased his star status and if he has a big year this upcoming season, Madrid may do everything they can to obtain Mbappe. I have a feeling that if Hazard doesn't leave this summer, he will stay because Madrid will go after Mbappe or even Neymar next summer.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

There's a lot of upside to selling him next summer.

1.  Mbappe is about to be the main man at PSG.  Neymar might not like that so much.  Neymar and Madrid are a match made in heaven, they should just get a room together, already.

2.  Other clubs can turn his head (if he doesn't sign a new deal).  His price won't be terrible if Barcelona + Madrid both want him.

If we do sell him this summer, I hope to god that the club have been lining up deals.  Nothing like getting a cash inflow and everyone's price goes up.

[Vesper 31,180]

IF this

http://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2018/07/21/bad-news-for-chelsea-fans-as-blues-agree-170million-double-deal-to-send-two-stars-to-real-madrid-report/

is true, I am going to lose my fecking mind!! Only £170 for BOTH Hazard AND Courtois!

Thats £65m less or so than what we should get at minimum (and £120m less than a Courtois with 2, 3 years left on contract double deal would cost!) If you subtract out Courtois £35m Real is getting Hazard for £135m or basically the same as what Barca paid for semi bust Dembele and £15m less than they paid for Coutinho!

Please talk me down from the rope and chair.

WTF is going on with our board for last 4 years?????????

Arguably best GK,  certainly top 3 in world we will sell him soon for a third of his value

Have 2nd or 3rd best RB in world may sell him

Best DMF in world by far, may lose him

Had the current best attacking MF in world on club sold him for shit

May lose 1st or second best LW in world soon

Had now current 2nd best RW in world, Sold him for shit

Had now current top 6 or 7 striker in world, sold him for shit

And another top 10 or so striker and our manager fucked him off n' out

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

[Alabama 1,992]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

IF this

http://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2018/07/21/bad-news-for-chelsea-fans-as-blues-agree-170million-double-deal-to-send-two-stars-to-real-madrid-report/

is true, I am going to lose my fecking mind!! Only £170 for BOTH Hazard AND Courtois!

Thats £65m less or so than what we should get at minimum (and 100m less than a Courtois with 2, 3 years left on contract double deal would cost!) If you subtract out Courtois £35m Real is getting Hazard for £135m or basically the same as what Barca paid for semi bust Dembele and £15m less than they paid for Coutinho!

Please talk me down from the rope and chair.

WTF is going on with our board for last 4 years?????????

Arguably best GK,  certainly top 3 in world we will sell him soon for a third of his value

Have 2nd or 3rd best RB in world may sell him

Best DMF in world by far, may lose him

Had the current best attacking MF in world on club sold him for shit

May lose 1st or second best LW in world soon

Had now current 2nd best RW in world, Sold him for shit

Had now current top 6 or 7 striker in world, sold him for shit

And another top 10 or so striker and our manager fucked him off n' out

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

Bullshit...reliable Belgian news outlet debunked the rumour this morning...

Pipe down...

[Vesper 31,180]

9 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

Bullshit...reliable Belgian news outlet debunked the rumour this morning...

Pipe down...

Link please. I am at a point where I can actually see us doing this. 19 days till window for inbound slams shut.

Donnarumma is probably off the board now as CAS reversed AC Milan Euro ban.

That leaves Thomas Strakosha as only truly world class keeper who is remotely available. Of course its another Italian game-playing team (Lazio).

Only good news (if true) is Barca came back with 3rd bid for Willian at around £55m. He gave interview today and deffo wants out and I would much rather he go to Barca than Man U and £55m is great price.

[robsblubot 3,595]

all this drama ... 

https://www.premierleague.com/players/4503/Eden-Hazard/stats?co=1&se=-1 and an actual link too!

Can filter by season and compare with other players to have an idea of effectiveness and characteristics. We all have eyeballs, so just additional info.

The club will be just fine with or without hazard. For me it is simple actually: sign a new deal or fuck off.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Link please. I am at a point where I can actually see us doing this. 19 days till window for inbound slams shut.

Does this work? 🤔

 

[Vesper 31,180]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

Does this work? 🤔

 

Yes, thank you

these 2 do say the lowball deal is not done yet

Het Laatste Nieuws  (The Latest News)

https://www.hln.be/sport/voetbal/buitenlands-voetbal/primera-division/na-njet-van-neymar-real-madrid-blijft-piste-hazard-onderzoeken-ploegmaat-roept-rode-duivel-op-om-bij-chelsea-te-blijven~a9a1f2e5/

Ondertussen lanceren websites, die allen gretig clicks proberen mee te grissen, op weinig gebaseerde geruchten. Zo kondigde Le 10 Sport een akkoord voor 190 miljoen aan tussen Real en Chelsea. Een bericht dat ze later in een ander artikel tegenspraken. In Spanje zelf blijft het betrekkelijk stil rond Hazard. Real heeft zijn bevriende media nog niet het sein gegeven dat een deal in de pijplijn zit.

Het Nieuwsblad  (The Newspaper)

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20180720_03625206

Eden Hazard naar Real Madrid is nu al dé transfersoap van de zomer. De Rode Duivel wordt al jarenlang gelinkt aan de Koninklijke en sinds hij uitblonk op het WK voetbal wemelt het van de geruchten. Het Franse Le 10 Sport meent al te weten dat de twee clubs een akkoord hebben over een transfersom van 190 miljoen euro, maar dat nieuws lijkt voorbarig.

 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

I want him to stay, but it's really important that we decide what we're going to do now-ish.

We need to see what we're working with.  If we're going to sell, just do it (agree it confidentially) and get to work on what needs to be done.

[Unionjack 7,532]

Was just thinking it was 6 years ago we signed Eden. We played Shitty in the CS. (amd lost grrr)

Maybe if Eden goes we might Beat them this time lol

Was an up and down year that I wont forget in a hurry

[YorkshireBlue 3,349]

17 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Was just thinking it was 6 years ago we signed Eden. We played Shitty in the CS. (amd lost grrr)

Maybe if Eden goes we might Beat them this time lol

Was an up and down year that I wont forget in a hurry

Ill probs get hammed for u this but... dont u think hazard has the same problem as willian asin he slows play down so much??