Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: I absolutely love Hazard, but dont you guys think our over reliance on him is the reason we have regressed so much as a team in the last 3 years? Yes his arguably Chelsea's best ever player but I am with Sarri, he needs to move more off the ball, Hazard is a ball hog (an excellent one by all means) however I think letting him go might be better for us in the medium to long term. We need to reestablish an identity. All the great Chelsea sides (the ones with Lampard, DD and Terry did not have this over reliance on one guy and had a system) I remember winning important games when Drogba, Lamps, Terry or Ballack were not playing. We need to go back to that philosophy were the greater sum of the team is better or more important than one person's individual talent. No, the over reliance on Hazard is a consequence of our regression not the reason. We over rely on him because there's noone else to step in and take some of the burden. The reason is lack of investment in quality players over the years while the few times when we have invested big they just haven't panned out as we hoped. 3 minutes ago, !Hazard! said: I have to agree with you. Few times we have actually looked better as a team when Hazard was not playing and I'm not so sure how well would he ever fit to Sarri's high energy high pressing football You mean against championship sides in the cup and the likes of Malmo and Dynamo Kiev. Piss poor opposition. Johnnyeye, Miguelito and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 You mean against championship sides in the cup and the likes of Malmo and Dynamo Kiev. Piss poor opposition. Have we played a notable side without him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Have we played a notable side without him? This season or overall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Have we played a notable side without him? Shitty in the Community Shield is the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This season or overall?This season Shitty in the Community Shield is the only oneThanks Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Jason said: Zidane is back at Real Madrid... Did not see that coming. Reduces our chances to keep Hazard even more. Had hoped for a Mourinho comeback There. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post! Special Juan 28,868 Posted March 11, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted March 11, 2019 International break coming up, so we will get an update Sir Mikel OBE, ulsterchelsea, Jase and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Zinedine Zidane wants transfer of Chelsea star as first Real Madrid signing – and it’s not Eden Hazard https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/03/11/chelsea-transfer-news-kante-real-madrid-under-zidane/ Johnnyeye and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 DROGBA URGES HAZARD TO STAY AT CHELSEA https://readchelsea.com/2019/03/11/drogba-urges-hazard-to-stay-at-chelsea/ Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, mccg said: Zinedine Zidane wants transfer of Chelsea star as first Real Madrid signing – and it’s not Eden Hazard https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/03/11/chelsea-transfer-news-kante-real-madrid-under-zidane/ Lolz Kante signed a 5 years extension in November. For 400m he can leave robsblubot, Vesper and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,377 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I think he's 100% gone, sadly. Reports are that Zidane would only return if he could rebuild and mould the team in his vision. He'll be able to sell his targets on being part of bringing Real Madrid out of their slump and starting a new generation. Imagine your in Eden's boots and your idol comes to you and talks about his ambitious project that he wants you to be a part of. No way he says no. Of course for us it comes at the absolute worst possible time. Transfer ban, very likely scenario of no CL football, uncertainty about the manager. Combine all that with the fact that he'll only have 1 year on his contract. It's either sell him in the summer for half of what's he's actually worth or force him to stay and anger him. Then he walks for free. Just think about how catastrophic it would be if Hazard asks to leave and we can't sign anyone to replace him or strengthen other parts of our team with that money. Yikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/03/11/real-madrid-make-move-eden-hazard-zinedine-zidane-return-boosts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,122 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 He was always likely leave in the summer. Even more inevitable now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: Lolz Kante signed a 5 years extension in November. For 400m he can leave You want a nightmare scenario imagine the deferral appeal to CAS gets turned down, so no summer 2019 window FIFA appeal on the bans is turned down, then CAS appeal on the bans results in an extra window being tacked on Mueller Report in the US is loaded up with impeachable offences against Trump (not in itself a bad thing, a good thing), but it also shows flat out Russian collusion, and the West goes full out sanction Cold war v Putin and all his money men (of which Roman is at top of list, or near top). Roman feels mad heat coming, decides to liquidate then sell the club. Real offers £250-300m for Kante and Hazard Roman accepts (as he is going to sell the club anyway) He also refuses new contacts to Luiz and Willian, so Luiz walks on free and Willian is sold CHO, despite basically being guaranteed a starting spot or at least a shedload more time, refuses to renew and is sold. We literally have no window at all until summer 2021 at that point to replace anyone, other than loan callbacks, who, if Roman is liquidating, will be sold too (Bats, Morata(he is gone anyway if AM want him, per agreement) Bakayoko, Zouma, etc. Hell he may sell the only other great youngster we have, Reece James Club is sold in Spring 2020, but nothing in terms of buys can be done for over a year. At that point, we will be struggling to be in top 10 in league. If we also lose Higs (still not a guarantee we can renew his option for another 12 months loan, and he would leave in 2020 summer anyway, as we cannot buy new players (even loaned ones) until 2021) we would only have Giroud and Tammy for CF's. GK, Kepa, Wille, Bulka CB's would be Rudiger, AC, Tomori, Jake Clarke-Salter, Trevoh Chalobah LB Alonso and Emerson RB Azpi and Dujon Sterling DMF Jorginho, Ampadu CMF Drinkwater, RLC AMF Barkley (who also would have to play CMF), Charly Musonda, Mason Mount LW Pedro, Kenedy RW Pulisic, Victor Moses CF Tammy, Giroud a few key injuries, say 2 or 3 of Jorginho or Rudiger or Pedro or Pulisic or even Azpi (as no Reece James) thats a team that will struggle to stay 10 points or so clear of relegation zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Real will probably sell Nacho £30m Marcelo £40m Álvaro Odriozola £40m (Hakimi comes back so no need for 3 RB's and he is FAR better) Luka Modric £40m Isco £80m (they have James coming back and can sell him are buy another if they wish) Marco Asensio £90m Gareth Bale £85m Lucas Vázquez £35m Karim Benzema £35m thats almost £500m to play with (they have some scubs to sell too), plus they will dump in another £300m or so in pure cash Plus they may sell Kovacic too, so toss in another £40m or so Zidane can do a shit tonne with £800m plus (any one could, BUT its ZZ and RM combined again, so the biggest draw in global football) they could buy Neymar £250m or Mbappe (£300m) Hazard and Kante package deal £250 to £300m Icardi £100m (per his release clause) or Dybala or Werner for around the same, of Jovic for far less Matthijs de Ligt (£90m) or Koulibaly (£90m) or Skriniar (£80m) or Éder Militão ( a steal at £45m release clause) at CB Alex Sando (£60m) or Junior Firpo (£45m) or José Gayà (£45m) or Alex Telles (£45m) at LB Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (£80-90m) or Houssem Aouar (£60m) at CMF Pablo Sarabia (can get him on a free, THANKS BOARD, you pack of cunts, he was only £15m on release clause, but then again, I think he refused us) all those would cost £750 to around £800m or so it could be done they haven't spent shit lately and have HUGE (biggest in world football) revenues, so FFP is zero problems for them that is nine out, BUT nine (counting Rodrygo their teen potential superstar winger/striker from Santos) coming in (Kovacic is a wash) I am really freaked if they go for Kante on top of Eden, as they have the cash to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,759 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Vybzkartel said: I absolutely love Hazard, but dont you guys think our over reliance on him is the reason we have regressed so much as a team in the last 3 years? Yes his arguably Chelsea's best ever player but I am with Sarri, he needs to move more off the ball, Hazard is a ball hog (an excellent one by all means) however I think letting him go might be better for us in the medium to long term. We need to reestablish an identity. All the great Chelsea sides (the ones with Lampard, DD and Terry did not have this over reliance on one guy and had a system) I remember winning important games when Drogba, Lamps, Terry or Ballack were not playing. We need to go back to that philosophy were the greater sum of the team is better or more important than one person's individual talent. We were not over reliant on him for goals when Costa was in full swing at the club. Nor were we over reliant on him for creating chances when Fabregas could send defense splitting passes. I see your point, and maybe his style of play is not a 100% match for Sarri. But all our problems are because of the lack of good support. Conte drove out Costa (his tantrums are well documented, but it was the manager that exacerbated it. How many times was Drogba on the verge of an exit before 2009?) , and now we lost Fabregas due to Sarri's lack of proper rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,122 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So back to the Romans gonna sell the club party again is it. Good god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdo 583 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Did not see that coming. Reduces our chances to keep Hazard even more. Had hoped for a Mourinho comeback There. Mourinho to make a masterclass 3rd time is a charm comeback to safe us! he will make Cahill captain again and we will clinch the title with a higuain and pusilic masterclass next year! Verstuurd vanaf mijn F5121 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,593 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, mccg said: Zinedine Zidane wants transfer of Chelsea star as first Real Madrid signing – and it’s not Eden Hazard https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/03/11/chelsea-transfer-news-kante-real-madrid-under-zidane/ fuck off Madrid, you can take Hazard but not Kante, you can't have both you spanish wankers. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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