Blue Armour 4,710 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Vybzkartel said: I absolutely love Hazard, but dont you guys think our over reliance on him is the reason we have regressed so much as a team in the last 3 years? Yes his arguably Chelsea's best ever player but I am with Sarri, he needs to move more off the ball, Hazard is a ball hog (an excellent one by all means) however I think letting him go might be better for us in the medium to long term. We need to reestablish an identity. All the great Chelsea sides (the ones with Lampard, DD and Terry did not have this over reliance on one guy and had a system) I remember winning important games when Drogba, Lamps, Terry or Ballack were not playing. We need to go back to that philosophy were the greater sum of the team is better or more important than one person's individual talent. We were not over reliant on him for goals when Costa was in full swing at the club. Nor were we over reliant on him for creating chances when Fabregas could send defense splitting passes. I see your point, and maybe his style of play is not a 100% match for Sarri. But all our problems are because of the lack of good support. Conte drove out Costa (his tantrums are well documented, but it was the manager that exacerbated it. How many times was Drogba on the verge of an exit before 2009?) , and now we lost Fabregas due to Sarri's lack of proper rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So back to the Romans gonna sell the club party again is it. Good god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdo 583 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Did not see that coming. Reduces our chances to keep Hazard even more. Had hoped for a Mourinho comeback There. Mourinho to make a masterclass 3rd time is a charm comeback to safe us! he will make Cahill captain again and we will clinch the title with a higuain and pusilic masterclass next year! Verstuurd vanaf mijn F5121 met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,579 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, mccg said: Zinedine Zidane wants transfer of Chelsea star as first Real Madrid signing – and it’s not Eden Hazard https://www.caughtoffside.com/2019/03/11/chelsea-transfer-news-kante-real-madrid-under-zidane/ fuck off Madrid, you can take Hazard but not Kante, you can't have both you spanish wankers. ulsterchelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hazard will now be gone in the summer for sure ... I wouldnt be sad if he leave infact glad that it will present us an opportunity to built the team. Kante doesnt leave, Madrid has quite a few players in the middle and we wouldnt let Kante go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Pizy said: I think he's 100% gone, sadly. Reports are that Zidane would only return if he could rebuild and mould the team in his vision. He'll be able to sell his targets on being part of bringing Real Madrid out of their slump and starting a new generation. Imagine your in Eden's boots and your idol comes to you and talks about his ambitious project that he wants you to be a part of. No way he says no. Of course for us it comes at the absolute worst possible time. Transfer ban, very likely scenario of no CL football, uncertainty about the manager. Combine all that with the fact that he'll only have 1 year on his contract. It's either sell him in the summer for half of what's he's actually worth or force him to stay and anger him. Then he walks for free. Just think about how catastrophic it would be if Hazard asks to leave and we can't sign anyone to replace him or strengthen other parts of our team with that money. Yikes... It is debatable whether spending 100m+ for a 28-year-old as part of rebuilding the squad is wise. Real Madrid have plenty of holes in their squad that they need to plug. OneMoSalah and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Belgiannutt said: No, the over reliance on Hazard is a consequence of our regression not the reason. We over rely on him because there's noone else to step in and take some of the burden. The reason is lack of investment in quality players over the years while the few times when we have invested big they just haven't panned out as we hoped. You mean against championship sides in the cup and the likes of Malmo and Dynamo Kiev. Piss poor opposition. If he does leave, then it might at least break the vicious cycle of over-relying on Hazard, be it from the board off the pitch and the team on it. Vybzkartel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccheongf 211 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hazard will leave, due to Sarri .He doesnt like Sarri baalls and Sarri keeps on pressuring Hazard. Kante and CHO might go or RLC too. Leaving all old players tht SArri loves the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Jason said: If he does leave, then it might at least break the vicious cycle of over-relying on Hazard, be it from the board off the pitch and the team on it. Yeah but people are naive if they think we will be a better team. In the end all it matters what version of us is better. It doesnt matter if its Hazard FC or team Chelsea FC, I dont mind us being Hazard FC if we get better results. Real fans thought their club will be better because they will play as equal team once Ronaldo leaves, but look what happened. Some teams work great as unit, ala Liverpool and some are better being dependant on one key player. We are the later because the rest of our squad simply doesnt have the quality. Maybe Willian, Pedro, Higs,...will put better performances once Hazard isnt here anymore, but that doesnt mean in the slightest that we will actualy win more games. If we could spend Hazard money on two quality players, thats another thing, because it would be more future prood, but due to ban we wont be able to do it for another year. Though even here more questions arise; if there are true quality players available, can we afford them, do they want to join us and is board even competent enough to pull it off. Johnnyeye and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cosmin 2,484 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 We should enjoy his last months here. Maybe he'll leave after winning Europa League. the wes, Vesper, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 We just need to hope he continues to play well for the rest of the season and get us in to top 4, this will be in his head now and might give him a little extra oomph for the remaining games. The thing is ,he always said he would leave at a good time but after recent events, there is never going to be a good time , it's now or never for him, I think the only reason he's still here today is because Real didn't even come for him. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,722 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 It's got to the point with Hazard now that if he doesn't go he is showing a general lack of ambition, which is a problem in itself. It would appear that he would be willing to settle for the easy life with us, knowing he could get away with inconsistent performances throughout a season but yet still be first name on the team sheet. Real fans are unlikely to take to him if he does go, because of his personality. It all feeds in to itself. If he goes this summer, we’ve still had his best years. robsblubot, Vesper and Vybzkartel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: ... If he goes this summer, we’ve still had his best years. Sad thing about will be that in Real, even if he might not be in his the best years, he will look way better because of better players around him and it might look like those are his best years. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Cunt Zidane!! Coming for the Wee Baldy Man too. Shitbag! Chelsea hero Didier Drogba asks four-word question to Eden Hazard as Real Madrid plot raid DIDIER DROGBA has told Eden Hazard that he can stay at Chelsea and realise his dreams with the club. 56 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: It's got to the point with Hazard now that if he doesn't go he is showing a general lack of ambition, which is a problem in itself. “Why should he leave? I think he can have this here in Chelsea. "I had many opportunities to leave and I decided to stay to make my own story and win the Champions League here. I think he's got a chance to make his own story. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1099064/Chelsea-Didier-Drogba-Eden-Hazard-Real-Madrid-Transfer-Premier-League-Zinedine-Zidane Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,722 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, El P. said: it might look like those are his best years. Yeah know what you mean, but 'Looking like' and reality are two different things. It was bad when Drogs, JT, Lampard went but sky didn't fall in, and the club endures. Vybzkartel, Unionjack and Vesper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,722 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Unionjack said: I had many opportunities to leave and I decided to stay to make my own story and win the Champions League here. I think he's got a chance to make his own story. Gotta love the bloke ! Unionjack and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Fulham Broadway said: Gotta love the bloke ! Basically saying don't be a cunt and fuck off when the going gets rough! Stay and fight. Vesper and Fulham Broadway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 hours ago, BlueLyon said: Yeah but people are naive if they think we will be a better team. In the end all it matters what version of us is better. It doesnt matter if its Hazard FC or team Chelsea FC, I dont mind us being Hazard FC if we get better results. Real fans thought their club will be better because they will play as equal team once Ronaldo leaves, but look what happened. Some teams work great as unit, ala Liverpool and some are better being dependant on one key player. We are the later because the rest of our squad simply doesnt have the quality. Maybe Willian, Pedro, Higs,...will put better performances once Hazard isnt here anymore, but that doesnt mean in the slightest that we will actualy win more games. If we could spend Hazard money on two quality players, thats another thing, because it would be more future prood, but due to ban we wont be able to do it for another year. Though even here more questions arise; if there are true quality players available, can we afford them, do they want to join us and is board even competent enough to pull it off. In the long term this would be good for the team imo. It will allow us to implement a style. It will hurt in the short term however its better we sort the issue now rather than later. Hazard is 28 so regardless we where going to face the issue again in the next 3 years. His not taken good care of himself like Ronaldo so i doubt he will still be in his prime around 33. Right now you can already see his lost a burst of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Unionjack said: Cunt Zidane!! Coming for the Wee Baldy Man too. Shitbag! he would have fit in here Unionjack and Fulham Broadway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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