Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Many are forgetting Ramires's pace was used vitally in our Counter attacking tactic over recent months for his pace, and the for the fact he is not a natural winger. Doubt we are going to continue that now we have natural wingers and hopefully produce attacking football rather than counter. (We got lucky the past 4 months) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Many are forgetting Ramires's pace was used vitally in our Counter attacking tactic over recent months for his pace, and the for the fact he is not a natural winger. Doubt we are going to continue that now we have natural wingers and hopefully produce attacking football rather than counter. (We got lucky the past 4 months)Exactly, people are acting like he's a born winger. The only reason we're using him there was to find him a place on the team. We should be using real wingers now that we have them FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 ------------Torres-----------Marin-------------------Hulk--------------Mata-----------------Lampard-----Mikel-------A.Cole------------------Ivanovic--------J.Terry---Luiz---------------------------Cech--------------Would be my first choice, more or less, rotation will be key so starting lineup's will defiantly not be consistent.Strikers1. Sturridge2. Lukaku3. New Forward?Wingers-De Bryune- Kalou-New WingerMidfield1. Ramires2. Romeu3. Miereles4. New Midfielder5. Mceachran6. PiazonDefenders. 1. Cahill2. Bertrand3. New Defender4. New Defender5. Hutchinson Good thing about rotation is if anyone has a dip in form, someone equally will fit in their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Many are forgetting Ramires's pace was used vitally in our Counter attacking tactic over recent months for his pace, and the for the fact he is not a natural winger. Doubt we are going to continue that now we have natural wingers and hopefully produce attacking football rather than counter. (We got lucky the past 4 months)Exactly, people are acting like he's a born winger. The only reason we're using him there was to find him a place on the team. We should be using real wingers now that we have them FFS!What about Ramires at right back? He held his own against Barcelona from there and it would give him plenty of space to open up those legs. But because he has simply been so good at the right wing position, I don't think we can rule him out for a first choice starting berth at right wing. Marin, I'm not sold on as a guy to start 45+ games a season.Ramires - Mata - Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 What about Ramires at right back? He held his own against Barcelona from there and it would give him plenty of space to open up those legs. But because he has simply been so good at the right wing position, I don't think we can rule him out for a first choice starting berth at right wing. Marin, I'm not sold on as a guy to start 45+ games a season.Ramires - Mata - HulkMarin should be starting and get a chance to play and show us what he's got. If he struggles for a while then and ONLY then we should replace him with Ramires on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 What about Ramires at right back? He held his own against Barcelona from there and it would give him plenty of space to open up those legs. But because he has simply been so good at the right wing position, I don't think we can rule him out for a first choice starting berth at right wing. Marin, I'm not sold on as a guy to start 45+ games a season.Ramires - Mata - HulkWhat about Ramires at right back? He held his own against Barcelona from there and it would give him plenty of space to open up those legs. But because he has simply been so good at the right wing position, I don't think we can rule him out for a first choice starting berth at right wing. Marin, I'm not sold on as a guy to start 45+ games a season.Ramires - Mata - HulkHence me saying rotation. Like i said, we got lucky the past 4 months with our counter attacking system, don't think we can pull that off again. Hopefully RDM changes it into a more attacking play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Marin should be starting and get a chance to play and show us what he's got. If he struggles for a while then and ONLY then we should replace him with Ramires on the wing.Fair enough. But it still seems a shame that our player of the season (I don't care that Mata won it, IMO it has been Ramires closely followed by Mata) needs for a transferred player to fail to prove himself to become first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 ------------Torres-----------Marin-------------------Hulk--------------Mata-----------------Lampard-----Mikel-------A.Cole------------------Ivanovic--------J.Terry---Luiz---------------------------Cech--------------------------Torres-----------Hulk-------------------Ramires--------------Mata-----------------Lampard-----Mikel-------Cole------J.Terry---Luiz-----Ivan---------------Cech--------------I don't see Marin starting many games next season. He'll be useful off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Fuck. Just realised Kalou will be out if we sign Hulk and don't loan out de Bruyne There's no point in keeping Kalou if we're only going to play him as an auxiliary right back when playing Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Fuck. Just realised Kalou will be out if we sign Hulk and don't loan out de Bruyne There's no point in keeping Kalou if we're only going to play him as an auxiliary right back when playing Barcelona.Accommodating must be made to benefit the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Accommodating must be made to benefit the club.Would rep but I'm over the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Whoa. Tribal football () reckons we'll sign Cardozo if we fail to get Hulk. No thanks, we don't need another 28 year old striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think Ramires played in a 2-man midfield when he was playing for Brasil ... he did a good job with Lucas Leiva and I think he could do a good job if he has a "passing" player next to him. That player could be Mikel or Modrič if we buy him.No he did not play well for Brazil in the double pivot, he was horrible...poor passer and out of position a lot. It is one of the reason why i think it will be a long time before he plays meaningful minutes for Brazil again.He was pretty good under Dunga in their 4-4-2(4-1-2-1-2) formation in the RM role, in fact that is Ramires best role RM/RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hence me saying rotation.Like i said, we got lucky the past 4 months with our counter attacking system, don't think we can pull that off again. Hopefully RDM changes it into a more attacking playRDM isn't even our permanent manager yet. Hopefully the manager situation is sorted out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 People are saying Ramires can't play in the double pivot just because of that one game at Napoli and to say he can't play there is silly. Playing in the double pivot would still allow him to make those runs forward just look at Yaya toure at City who plays in the double pivot for them and look a runs he makes at times. As long as one player is left to hold and having Ramires will probably help us a lot as he will constantly run around, just needs to improve his passing. This is about Hulk anyway and what i will say is, i REALLY hope he comes. Such a good player and on his day he's unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish House Mafia 508 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Yo SHM that your tattoo?? If soo that's fucking wicked man!Na, I wish it was my tattoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 We should think of the ones that are possible to buy and not too old.From your 10, no one matches this criteria.Name me 10 better players than Hulk and we have been linked to? Hazard (for now) hasshowed less than Hulk in EU, regardless his ageand cant be on list.Let me hear you.:oh so you want me to narrow down the type of players on the list even more to try and fit Hulk in haha that's pretty embarrassing to have to do that just to fit him in! anyway here is the list narrowed down to apparently players we have been linked to in the past.1.Neymar2.Falcao3.Higuain4.Di Maria5.Cavani6.Lavezzi7.Modric8.Lucas9.Ganso10.Hamsikwhat else do you want me to do? name the 10 best players in Europe with a fictional characters name on the back of their shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Benzema, Robben, Mata, Özil, are definitely not better than hulk.HAHA! if you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 oh so you want me to narrow down the type of players on the list even more to try and Hulk in haha that's pretty embarrassing to have to do that just to fit him in! anyway here is the list narrowed down to apparently players we have been linked to in the past.1.Neymar-he is not even in EU, how is he better?2.Falcao3.Higuain-Good poacher, but not better than Hulk4.Di Maria-Has been injured and goes down all time5.Cavani6.Lavezzi-You serious?7.Modric8.Lucas-look Neymar9.Ganso-look Neymar10.Hamsik-good, but Hulk is betterwhat else do you want me to do? name the 10 best players in Europe with a fictional characters name on the back of their shirt?You named me 10 players, but most of them are not better than Hulk. SorryAnyway enough of this, you had two chances and didnt prove Hulk is not among 10best attacking player in EU to be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,877 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 hulk in the last 2 years: 82 games:53 goals:38 assists: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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