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[Superblue 6,372]

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire, so it is likely with all the rumours flying around that Hulk is one of our major transfer targets this summer.

However it is not out of the question that the Porto president is actually telling the truth and no official offers have been made.

The Marin deal came out of the blue, nothing was rumoured about Victor Moses until we made an offer, and the media were also adamant Hazard was on his way to United even after we had won the Champions League. They don't seem to have a genuine idea of what Chelsea are doing. Perhaps Hulk isn't the primary target and whilst the media think otherwise it allows us to focus on our genuine deals without rumours causing other club's interests or inflated transfer fees.

I would actually love us to buy Hulk, but thought I would just put another spin on the current situation.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Are they supposed to win the league for us?

Eh, so u dont think having Hazard, Mata, Ramires, Sturridge, Marin, KDB is good enough to win the league?

Pathetic..

[The Skipper 20,609]

Eh, so u dont think having Hazard, Mata, Ramires, Sturridge, Marin, KDB is good enough to win the league?

Pathetic..

He has a valid point, I don't think it's pathetic at all.

[Superblue 6,372]

He has a valid point, I don't think it's pathetic at all.

KDB is likely to go out on loan. Marin is a wildcard, he could light up the Premiership and thrive at a bigger club or he could struggle. And considering his injury problems last season, I wouldn't want to pin our entire hopes on him. Sturridge and Ramires are not natural's in those positions. Yes they can play there and therefore offer us additional options and depth in these positions but not as a first choice. Ramires should be challenging for a CM spot and Sturridge ST.

This only leaves Hazard and Mata, so we need a right sided winger and a world class one to start as first choice.

[JordCFC 13]

If Hulk does eventually join, it's probably been said so many times on this forum but, our attacking options are nothing short mouth-watering. Truly remarkable investments from Abramovich, who cares how much they cost - he's absolutely loaded with cash and will provide a good return (trophies,fan base, crowd attendance, jerseys)

Up the blues.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

KDB is likely to go out on loan. Marin is a wildcard, he could light up the Premiership and thrive at a bigger club or he could struggle. And considering his injury problems last season, I wouldn't want to pin our entire hopes on him. Sturridge and Ramires are not natural's in those positions. Yes they can play there and therefore offer us additional options and depth in these positions but not as a first choice. Ramires should be challenging for a CM spot and Sturridge ST.

This only leaves Hazard and Mata, so we need a right sided winger and a world class one to start as first choice.

IThe idea that you need a world class player at every position to win is just false. City last year had ridiculous talent and still started players like Richards, Milner, and Barry regularly. United tied them on points, and their team was filled with mediocre players. How many "world class" players do they have? Chelsea can do fine without a 35-40M pound RW. They need to upgrade at striker and need a backup RB and then long-term, need a replacement for Lampard (maybe not until next year though). And you know what, every single buy is a wild card. Marin has no guarantee of success, but neither do Hazard or Hulk. Chelsea spent more than 25M pounds on a player only twice before. Both players were established central strikers playing in top leagues, both were better bets to succeed than either Hazard or Hulk and yet both were horrible flops. You can't have a transfer policy based on being obsessed over one player. Hulk is not worth anything close to 38M. David Silva who was a much more established player who was bought as a RW, cost 24M pounds. Mata cost 23.5M pounds. I am finding this obsession over Hulk incredibly annoying. Chelsea should offer 25-30M max and if Porto won't take it, just go and get someone else.

[Blue Armour 4,448]

IThe idea that you need a world class player at every position to win is just false. City last year had ridiculous talent and still started players like Richards, Milner, and Barry regularly. United tied them on points, and their team was filled with mediocre players. How many "world class" players do they have? Chelsea can do fine without a 35-40M pound RW. They need to upgrade at striker and need a backup RB and then long-term, need a replacement for Lampard (maybe not until next year though). And you know what, every single buy is a wild card. Marin has no guarantee of success, but neither do Hazard or Hulk. Chelsea spent more than 25M pounds on a player only twice before. Both players were established central strikers playing in top leagues, both were better bets to succeed than either Hazard or Hulk and yet both were horrible flops. You can't have a transfer policy based on being obsessed over one player. Hulk is not worth anything close to 38M. David Silva who was a much more established player who was bought as a RW, cost 24M pounds. Mata cost 23.5M pounds. I am finding this obsession over Hulk incredibly annoying. Chelsea should offer 25-30M max and if Porto won't take it, just go and get someone else.

Also another important point. Its clear that if Ivanovic has to continue here, it has to be as first choice RB. We may be able to get someone better than Bosingwa, but who's going to come here and agree to be backup to Ivanovic? It seems wiser to hang onto Bosingwa as second choice RB.

[Chelsea_Fan 227]

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[Slam Dunk 1,442]

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire, so it is likely with all the rumours flying around that Hulk is one of our major transfer targets this summer.

However it is not out of the question that the Porto president is actually telling the truth and no official offers have been made.

The Marin deal came out of the blue, nothing was rumoured about Victor Moses until we made an offer, and the media were also adamant Hazard was on his way to United even after we had won the Champions League. They don't seem to have a genuine idea of what Chelsea are doing. Perhaps Hulk isn't the primary target and whilst the media think otherwise it allows us to focus on our genuine deals without rumours causing other club's interests or inflated transfer fees.

I would actually love us to buy Hulk, but thought I would just put another spin on the current situation.

No, it has been very well documented that Chelsea officials were negotiating with Porto. The situation, as far as i'm aware, is that Porto know what Chelsea are willing to pay but it doesn't match their valuation of Hulk. Whether or not this has changed over the past few days, I don't know. I think it's safe to say at this point that Hulk is definitely the club's first choice for the RW position, whether or the media know the back up option, I'm not sure.

Remember, there is a difference between an official offer and an unofficial enquiry. Hulk wouldn't be able to officially join us until July 1st anyway, so i'd expect some movement in negotiations over the coming week or so.

[fnadhirrahman 0]

I think that we could make an unexpected transfer news,,,, He will move at the end of Transfer Window, like torres....

[Jase 43,479]

Think it might be better of us to pull the plug on this transfer and look elsewhere rather than wasting our time with Porto when they seem adamant on playing hardball over the transfer.

[Henrique 9,133]

If this little snipey comment was aimed in part at me then the quote I gave was from, what I believe to be, a respectable source; note:

"Brazilian + Latin American soccer news/transfers. Sky Sports correspondent. Brazil's Head Researcher for Football Manager,writer at TheElastico + Just Football."

I would argue that is a pretty reputable source and not a "random person". So maybe check it yourself before you piss your pants.

Also, back on topic: http://www1.skysport...helsea-transfer

Hope skysports isn't too random a person for you Henrique you clown.

you also should get banned for the lack of quality in your posts. same to gary gordon guy.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

He has a valid point, I don't think it's pathetic at all.

A valid point? Oh cut it...I see the Hazard and potential Hulk deal has made you guys gone mad and spoiled.

Hazard - Mata - Ramires/Sturridge is more than good enough to win the league and more. If not, then please do tell me why.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

If we have offered 30 million to Porto for Hulk and they have rejected it, then unfortunately we should move on. However, I see us trying to overpay for him.

[termninja 5,290]

I still really want him badly if the plan is to line up Hazard, Mata and Hulk behind Torres. Bringing Hulk here would give our team a new dimension. I've been following him for a couple of years now and I really like his game, it's rather unique and exotic to watch.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

He could be a powerful version of Robben.

[Marvin123 534]

its all about the triple threat of Hazard, Mata and Hulk behind Torres, and we all know if needed Hulk Mata AND Hazard track back even torres puts a shift in for the team!

i really can see why the board want this as a starting line up, its just purely IMMENSE

[Superblue 6,372]

Remember hulk would fill 2 areas of the squad that require a player - a RW and ST.

We could easily spend £30-40m on 2 players for those positions and neither may not be near hulk's quality.

We've all seen the value of players like ivanovic and ramires who can adapt to multiple positions.

Also getting only one player will free up an extra space for one of the younger players to maybe feature in a handful of games during the season.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I'm glad people are seeing the pros of signing Hulk now. As I've said, guy fits in like a glove.

[The Skipper 20,609]

A valid point? Oh cut it...I see the Hazard and potential Hulk deal has made you guys gone mad and spoiled.

Hazard - Mata - Ramires/Sturridge is more than good enough to win the league and more. If not, then please do tell me why.

No, it really isn't. It isn't acceptable to play Ramires and Sturridge out of position. You can't go into the season without a proper right sided attacker when you've had the chance to obtain one. We need to stop putting square pegs in round holes.