David Luiz

[Amblève. 4,995]

14 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Great. Even after a big win against United semehow we manage to create another crisis. 

For real. This club is pure trash-TV drama at times

[Blusan Alamb 295]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Apparently...

 

 

Seems like this started when Conte subbed Luiz off in that 3-3 Roma game.

Conte was unhappy with Luiz’s reaction to being substituted in the 3-3 home draw with Roma and gave him a training ground ticking off a few days later.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/05/happening-chelseas-out-of-favour-defender-david-luiz/amp/

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

Fair play to Conte because Christensen came in today (after an up and down last few matches himself) and looked better than Luiz has in the last 3 or 4 games for me. Luiz has his pros and cons like anybody else but he’s been clumsy in the last few matches he’s played at center back.

[whats happening 1,517]

3 hours ago, Leif said:

Regardless, Conte should only have a say in the future of our players if he himself has a future here.

as long as conte is here, he decides who stays or not.

[Kieran. 6,317]

He must have really pissed off Conte. Not even on the bench.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Henrique said:

Great. Even after a big win against United semehow we manage to create another crisis. 

 

1 hour ago, Amblève. said:

For real. This club is pure trash-TV drama at times

Chelsea FC = Hollywood FC

[Blusan Alamb 295]

 

[Pizy 18,322]

Really hope this is another storm in a teacup that's made way worse in the media than it actually is. Especially for someone like David who is a huge influence in the locker room. He is a player who everyone else in the team seems to love so falling out with him can probably spread discontent throughout the squad.

His skill set is totally unique in our team and we need him back 100%.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Kick him out if he is truly questioning Conte's methods and training regime. That buffoon Kenedy, too. 

This "player's power at the club" must end once and for all. There is only one boss and that is the gaffer.

If things degenerate and Luiz is indeed going to lead a rebellion against Conte then the match going fans must definitely act and support Conte. 

[The Skipper 20,593]

Hope this gets settled. Would also like to see Luiz in the LCB role. Might be perfect. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

3 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

I think Conte will eventually want to play a back four once he gets the left-back he wants. However, as long as Luiz is in the contention for starting XI, we will be stuck with back three as this guy just cannot handle the back four. 

 

Future defence:

New Left-back - Rudiger - Christensen - Azpilicueta 

That sounds really good to me.

Yup pretty much this. 

I dont see us forever with 3ATB, because it creates either no proper width in 3:5:2 (plus exposed space for opponent between winback and CB) or only two midfielders in 3:4:3

Juve vs real was evident example why 3;5:2 is flawed. Only one wingback against winger and fullback is not going to work.

Never mind defensive solidity isnt realy much better in 3ATB than 4ATB. Defending is more about personell rather tactics.

So I guess 3Atb was more temporary, fitting current players.

Luiz is good in back 3, but not in back 4 so I can see we will replace him sooner or later.

Shame, because he is excellent character. Personaly wouldnt mind using him in midfield, but it wont happen. 

[Thor 2,366]

Saw more of Luiz on the game broadcast last night than I did Lukaku. 

[bluephoenix 1,126]

Conte's post match about Luiz stung, I hope this doesn't turn into another Costa saga. Every season one thing or another. But I like it that Conte is bringing back respect the manager attitude. The Club comes first then the manager and then the players. The players should do everything the manager wants them to. if I remember correctly SAF gave a interview in press once saying that United players must earn the right to wear the United Jersey. With Conte I have the same feeling. 

 

[Cosmin 2,484]

I don't think this will turn into another Costa-type situation. Luiz seems like a nice lad and I don't think he has an ego that big.

The only thing that makes me a little skeptical is that Antonio made this public.

[Reddish-Blue 2,321]

7 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Hope this gets settled. Would also like to see Luiz in the LCB role. Might be perfect. 

Hopefully dropping Luiz acts like a catalyst for the rest of the team...as our next 3 fixtures are gonna be tough. 

West Brom (A) - they always play better against us...just like Palace 

Qarabag (A) - must win if we want to progress in UCL 

Liverpool (A) - hopefully our wingbacks can keep up with Salah and Mane

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/07/roman-abramovich-preparing-guide-chelsea-choppy-waters-followingmichael/

Luiz is due back in training with Conte on Wednesday afternoon and his axing for the Manchester United game is not being likened to the situation of Diego Costa.

Costa had asked to leave the club on at least three occasions before falling out with Conte, while Luiz was punished for poor form and questioning his manager’s approach.

What happens next for Luiz is entirely in his own hands. If he displays the right attitude and a willingness to fight for his place, then it is believed he will be given every opportunity to win his place back in Conte’s squad.

But Conte made it abundantly clear during a stormy meeting last week that any player who does not follow his path will be frozen out.

[Special Juan 27,385]

It's liking the situation to from years ago to now, managers never stood for any shit at all, no matter who it was from, the player accepted it and got on with his job. Now, the fuckers stick two fingers up and basically say 'Fuck you' long story short the players down tools the manager gets the chop, it's fucking pathetic. Conte wants to stick to his guns here, fuck Luiz if he isn't pulling in the same direction and going against what the gaffer thinks, deal with it or cry in the corner, your a man, deal with it sunshine.

That goes for any player.

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

It's liking the situation to from years ago to now, managers never stood for any shit at all, no matter who it was from, the player accepted it and got on with his job. Now, the fuckers stick two fingers up and basically say 'Fuck you' long story short the players down tools the manager gets the chop, it's fucking pathetic. Conte wants to stick to his guns here, fuck Luiz if he isn't pulling in the same direction and going against what the gaffer thinks, deal with it or cry in the corner, your a man, deal with it sunshine.

That goes for any player.

Totally agree

Luiz has been no more than average this season and his on pitch discipline that was there last season seems to have gone awry.  He was sometimes so far out of position he was in another postcode.

In my opinion, he had got too comfortable with his status and position in the team and maybe thought he was undroppable. This could be the boot up the backside needed to get him back to the Luiz of last season but it is totally down to him...no-one else....not even Cahill can be blamed for this one.

luiz is a talented footballer ....lets see if he has any gumption about him and work hard to prove to the staff and his team mates that he deserves a place back.

Those that say...he is a leader etc...he might be , but not a very good one. There is no way he should ever be captain of this team.... let him worry about his own game, nevermind worrying about others.

Also, this thing about 'the others players like him and he is a good laugh' etc etc...... I will just remind you...that Diego Costa was loved by all in the dressing room as far as we know .....and we all know what happened there