Popular Post! Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 22, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 22, 2017 Lets hope this was not a Kalas and after keeping the best striker in the league relatively quiet in a huge match, he won't disappear in oblivion. Zouma - Ake - Christensen. Atleast two of them have to become regulars here. Pls don't fuck this up killer1257, kellzfresh, MrExcalibur100 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Lets hope this was not a Kalas and after keeping the best striker in the league relatively quiet in a huge match, he won't disappear in oblivion. Zouma - Ake - Christensen. Atleast two of them have to become regulars here. Pls don't fuck this up Kalas only had 1 good game for us though. That was brilliant but Ake has shown even against Arsenal this season that he is capable of being a potential top CB. He was brilliant at the Emirates despite them losing, he was a close call for MOTM. Also he made a big impact for Bournemouth during his time there. mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipo 56 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 he need 5 appearence for medal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 hours ago, yipo said: he need 5 appearence for medal Does he need five appearances for us? Because he's obviously made loads of appearances for Bournemouth this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Stats said: Kalas only had 1 good game for us though. That was brilliant but Ake has shown even against Arsenal this season that he is capable of being a potential top CB. He was brilliant at the Emirates despite them losing, he was a close call for MOTM. Also he made a big impact for Bournemouth during his time there. think he has a europa league medal and league cup medal to his name already! Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 What a performance form the boy! Against this strong opposition, in 1/2 final on Wembley and first start since long period. What I really like in him is his confidence, he stays strong and plays smart, really like him. We can only be glad that we brought him back and had such an important role in this vital game for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted April 23, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 23, 2017 On 22/04/2017 at 10:14 PM, The Skipper said: Ake Luiz Azpi is probably our best back 3. What evidence is there to support that? He's played only one (or two?) games in our back 3, so by default there is not enough data to make such claims. On the other hand Azpi-Luiz-GC have played almost every game and got us top. And remember, the only reason Nathan played was because Cahill was sick. Ake played very well, but I'm not surprised to see that he's being heavily overhyped now like always when a youngster has a solid game. We've seen this countless times before, so I'd contain that excitement for now if I were you. My prediction is that next season he will probably be loaned out again or benched (if he's lucky) and used sparingly in cup games. His main purpose will be filling that HG role once JT and Bego leave. I might sound pessimistic, but when thinking realistically, then I don't see him ever being our starting CB, LWB/LB or CM.. we will upgrade those positions significantly and Ake will be lucky to make the bench imo. I'd love to be proven wrong though, but it is up to Nathan to be better than the options available in the squad and market. MrExcalibur100, Chelsea?, Amblève. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, manpe said: What evidence is there to support that? He's played only one (or two?) games in our back 3, so by default there is not enough data to make such claims. On the other hand Azpi-Luiz-GC have played almost every game and got us top. And remember, the only reason Nathan played was because Cahill was sick. Ake played very well, but I'm not surprised to see that he's being heavily overhyped now like always when a youngster has a solid game. We've seen this countless times before, so I'd contain that excitement for now if I were you. My prediction is that next season he will probably be loaned out again or benched (if he's lucky) and used sparingly in cup games. His main purpose will be filling that HG role once JT and Bego leave. I might sound pessimistic, but when thinking realistically, then I don't see him ever being our starting CB, LWB/LB or CM.. we will upgrade those positions significantly and Ake will be lucky to make the bench imo. I'd love to be proven wrong though, but it is up to Nathan to be better than the options available in the squad and market. The only evidence I have really is the players' abilities. Ake suits the LCB spot excellently due to his profile as a player imo. Besides, I was mentioning it in regards to the squad we have right now. I don't expect Ake to be a starter next season either. kellzfresh and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Skipper said: The only evidence I have really is the players' abilities. Ake suits the LCB spot excellently due to his profile as a player imo. Besides, I was mentioning it in regards to the squad we have right now. I don't expect Ake to be a starter next season either. Yes, I understood you said it in regard to our current squad. That last part of my post was aimed at people like the one who is afraid of losing him to Barca, Juve or PSG The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget 126 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Conte talking about having two players per position the back 3 this season seems dave/zouma-Luiz/JT-Cahill/Ake With JT going season i think Zouma would be a better fit in the centre leaving dave/christensen-Luiz/Zouma-Cahill/Ake The 'back-ups' have a lot of potential to be a strong back 3 for many years, problem will be integrating them over the next 1/2 seasons and keeping them all happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I don't have any confidence in Zouma at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 57 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I don't have any confidence in Zouma at all. The kid was doing so well before that bad injury I think he needs loaned out to A club that's going to play him week in and week out next season King11Didier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted April 24, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted April 24, 2017 The kid was doing so well before that bad injury I think he needs loaned out to A club that's going to play him week in and week out next season He was doing well in a back 4 in Mourinho's low block negative tactics. JT could still probably play in that system on a decent level, but not in Conte's build-from-the-back system. If we look beyond the injury, I doubt he has the attributes to play there to full effect. Great athlete, good defender, questionable fit for the team. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Tomo, Amblève., Adnane and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva La Hazard 17 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I thought Ake had a great game at Wembley. Got stuck in firm in the opening minutes and played a lovely ball up to Batshuayi to lay Pedro through for the first goal. A great platform to build on. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 He's a centre back. Not a left back, not a wing back, not a midfielder. He's proven it. He can become similar to Luiz IMO, and before this game I had little hope for him. I always said he's not proactive, but reactive. Well, that's what you need in your centre back often. You don't want a reactive CDM, or a reactive wing back (the best in those positions are proactive with link up play), but you do want a centre back who sees the move a striker wants to make, anticipates it, and reacts. Puyol, Nesta, Terry, Ake - epitome of reactive players. A proactive centre back guesses where the striker will go, and commits, a la Cahill, & Luiz before PSG. That prediction tactic leaves a lot to be desired. But a reactive Ake gives himself time to analyse at which crucial moment a striker has commited - and then adjusts his next move accordingly to react.  A reactive player makes a good poacher too, whereas a proactive striker is likely to cause himself more trouble in the box than he needs to. Hence why Loftus-Cheek works up front; he only has to wait until everyone else has made their move, and then make his (reactive). But if he has to make the first move in midfield (proactive), it looks gangly and awkward. Aguero is reactive. Drogba was proactive. Ronaldo is proactive, and forces situations/goals. Hazard is reactive, to the most subtle body language of whoever he faces.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 He's a centre back:wub:. Not a left back, not a wing back, not a midfielder. He's proven it. He can become similar to Luiz IMO, and before this game I had little hope for him. I always said he's not proactive, but reactive. Well, that's what you need in your centre back often. You don't want a reactive CDM, or a reactive wing back (the best in those positions are proactive with link up play), but you do want a centre back who sees the move a striker wants to make, anticipates it, and reacts. Puyol, Nesta, Terry, Ake - epitome of reactive players. A proactive centre back guesses where the striker will go, and commits, a la Cahill, & Luiz before PSG. That prediction tactic leaves a lot to be desired. But a reactive Ake gives himself time to analyse at which crucial moment a striker has commited - and then adjusts his next move accordingly to react.  A reactive player makes a good poacher too, whereas a proactive striker is likely to cause himself more trouble in the box than he needs to. Hence why Loftus-Cheek works up front; he only has to wait until everyone else has made their move, and then make his (reactive). But if he has to make the first move in midfield (proactive), it looks gangly and awkward. Aguero is reactive. Drogba was proactive. Ronaldo is proactive, and forces situations/goals. Hazard is reactive, to the most subtle body language of whoever he faces.  I understand the point you're trying to make, but to call Cahill proactive makes me wonder if you really understand the definitions of it.... El P., Hybrid Angel, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Miguelito said:  I understand the point you're trying to make, but to call Cahill proactive makes me wonder if you really understand the definitions of it....  Google says 'creating or controlling a situation rather than just responding to it', and Cahill certainly creates more situations than he needs to Spike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/22/2017 at 4:23 PM, LondonsFinest said: Man of the match. Luiz - Christensen - Ake should be our 3 CBs next season. Massive talent. Ummm what? Azpi is our best defender. El P. and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Chelsea? said: Ummm what? Azpi is our best defender. And? He is very limited and can always be a rotation option. If you tell me, that seeing that back 3 at the suppossed potential becoming real and they develop w'd have a phenomenal backline. All able to carry the ball under pressure, all being fantastically capable defensively. It would be criminal to sacrifice that for Azpi starting. I love him to bits, but he has his defficincies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I want this lad to start tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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