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[Fernando 6,585]

2 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' 

But THAT is exactly the difference. In western media and mainstream discussion, you talk about the economic and geopolitical motives behind the apparent religious extremist reasoning that, in these cases, Bush and the Russian church give. But you never talk about the underlying economic and geopolitical causes of the rise of extremists groups likes ISIS like the Nato invasion of Iraq and dismantling of its army, like the Nato intervention in Lybia, like the global drone terror campaign, like Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, like Western bias on Israel/Palestine...etc.

If you actually ask people in the middle east why they view the US and western European countries, particularly France and UK, unfavorably, you will get those exact answers. In some extreme cases, that unfavorable view pushes people to joining religious extremist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda. In these cases, religion is a tool used to channel the hate and enable this kind of violence. But even without religion that hate would still exist.

This, btw, is no way to excuse any of the members of these groups or justify their actions, but if you want to stop this kind of terrorism, you'll have to address its root causes. 

 

But if USA is the problem, then why there's no ISIS type of radicalism in Central America and South America?

And mind you, USA has totally screw up in the past in these region like it done in other parts of the world.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

As a Belgian and a guy who frequently goes through Brussels Airport and the Brussels Metro, I'll repost what I said on my Facebook page here.


 

Europeans, Africans, Arabs, Americans, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and what not: all of them were waiting for check-in at Brussels Airport yesterday morning. Same goes for the people on that metro train going to work: a cross-section of humanity.

Does anyone really think the deranged lunatics who committed these atrocities and the halfwits that support them gave two shits about who was on that train or in that hall and what faith they had? These are not attacks on countries, religions or even ways of life. They are attacking and challenging all of our humanity. All of us are victims. All of us.

We can’t prevent and control all of these attacks – they will happen again in some other place. What we can control is our reaction to them. I understand lots of people are sad, angry and afraid, but I’ve read a lot of responses online that are simply inacceptable, as well as the first attempts at political recuperation. Fools. Utterly shameful.

I dread the day someone dear to me will fall victim to one of these attacks. Maybe I’ll cave in and join the legion of hate – who knows.

But it will not be this day.

Be nice and respectful, keep talking to each other, try to be a good person and be part of the solution instead of the problem.

[Fernando 6,585]

14 minutes ago, johnnythefirst said:

As a Belgian and a guy who frequently goes through Brussels Airport and the Brussels Metro, I'll repost what I said on my Facebook page here.


 

Europeans, Africans, Arabs, Americans, Asians, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and what not: all of them were waiting for check-in at Brussels Airport yesterday morning. Same goes for the people on that metro train going to work: a cross-section of humanity.

Does anyone really think the deranged lunatics who committed these atrocities and the halfwits that support them gave two shits about who was on that train or in that hall and what faith they had? These are not attacks on countries, religions or even ways of life. They are attacking and challenging all of our humanity. All of us are victims. All of us.

We can’t prevent and control all of these attacks – they will happen again in some other place. What we can control is our reaction to them. I understand lots of people are sad, angry and afraid, but I’ve read a lot of responses online that are simply inacceptable, as well as the first attempts at political recuperation. Fools. Utterly shameful.

I dread the day someone dear to me will fall victim to one of these attacks. Maybe I’ll cave in and join the legion of hate – who knows.

But it will not be this day.

Be nice and respectful, keep talking to each other, try to be a good person and be part of the solution instead of the problem.

As per to "Solution" I know what will happen.

Have you ever heard of RFID?

It's a chip you can implant on people for tracking purpose, transaction and other things. Here's an article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934241/Swedish-company-implants-microchips-staff.html?ito=email_share_mobile-top

 

So what will happen is that for immigration laws, governments will implement that any incoming migrant, asylum and such will be need to be chip.

This way they can track them and all that stuff.

It will start in immigration then move to citizen with medical reasons and then eventually everyone will be require to be chip.

That is the "solution" that the world will come up with.

 

 

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Just now, Fernando said:

As per to "Solution" I know what will happen.

Have you ever heard of RFID?

It's a chip you can implant on people for tracking purpose, transaction and other things. Here's an article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934241/Swedish-company-implants-microchips-staff.html?ito=email_share_mobile-top

 

So what will happen, is that for immigration laws, governments will implement that any incoming migrant, asylum and such will be need to be chip.

This way they can track them and all that stuff.

It will start in immigration then move for medical reasons and then eventually everyone will be require to be chip.

 

 

Well, very Orwellian, but I don't see it getting passed through parliament any time soon. ;-) 
Which is good.

[Fernando 6,585]

1 minute ago, johnnythefirst said:

Well, very Orwellian, but I don't see it getting passed through parliament any time soon. ;-) 
Which is good.

Is not that, it's that people will want it for "security reason".

Chip the immigrants and those seeking asylum from Syria. It's a reality coming to your shores my friend.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Is not that, it's that people will want it for "security reason".

Chip the immigrants and those seeking asylum from Syria. It's a reality coming to your shores my friend.

Well, I will fight that. Like I said, these people are fleeing from the same assholes. 

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

On 3/16/2016 at 7:01 PM, Kieran. said:

She's a fucking racist. Her and Bill Clinton, check their history with that. FUCK voting for their pathetic asses worth a quarter of a billion. I'm sick of these elite fucks getting into power. Sick of this country.

 

On 3/16/2016 at 7:55 PM, iseah100 said:

 Bill Clinton presided over the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history.  He supported the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for crack versus powder cocaine, which produced staggering racial injustice in sentencing and boosted funding for drug-law enforcement. The Clinton got tough on drugs that related to blacks and introduced the three strikes policy and  when he left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Fucking blows my mind that blacks support her so blindly. 

 

Power elite structure is fucking this country and will cause the gap between the middle and upper class to get even wider than it is now. 

 

1,000% agree. 

On 3/16/2016 at 6:41 PM, Pizy said:

To be perfectly honest, I'll take a flip-flopping Hillary who flips to the progressive, modern position than the GOP who stick to their old ways of  racism and discrimination. I wouldn't even necessarily cal it flip-flopping in many cases but rather evolving her beliefs.

A republican masquerading as a democrat?  She's easily further left and more liberal than Obama. Not voting for her would essentially be like voting for Trump. Don't stay home in November! It's what Trump is hoping for. Put aside your feelings and think of all the millions of people that will suffer if Trump is elected and is in charge of Supreme Court appointments. It would set the country back decades and erase all of the good work Obama did.

At worst, Hillary represents "more of the same." She will continue much of the work and progress that we've made over the last 8 years.

Nah Fam, I can't vote for H-R-C. And it pains me to see my fellow brothas and sistas vote for this woman after all the donations she's received from PRIVATE JAIL COMPANIES, WALL STREET, ETC.......Like, you wot m8?!!? 

Please read this article. Hilary Clinton does not deserve black peoples votes 

Bill Clinton literally went on to the Arsenio Hall show, put on glasses, played the Saxophone, and went down in the African American hall of fame as being "one of us" (Even Maya Angelou claimed Bill as being One of Us! Once he got that ringing endorsement from arguably the most influential/prominent AA writer of her era it was a wrap.) Also, African Americans at large got to stop putting their faith and blindly following the Democratic Party. (I am guilty of this.) We act like the Democratic party genuinely cares about our interests when in reality a large portion of Dems don't fulfill their promises and we NEVER hold them accountable for it. We just follow this group think mentality where it's Democrat or abstaining from voting all-together. I don't have all the answers for how AAs should combat this issue but it's an issue nonetheless. 

I thought Bill was an AMAZING president, and I'll admit I was in that same camp, and only left that train of thought like a year and a half ago.I went back and read that it was him that started the deregulation of Wall-Street, gave the top 1% tax breaks, and started the aforementioned industrial jail complex...he got that ball rolling. Then Hillary comes through a decade plus later and starts to conveniently recognize the damage her husband's policies had towards POC in regards to drug related sentencing. ALSO! I know politics is politics, and that it can be a very nasty game.. but are we gonna summarily dismiss that when she was running against Obama 8 years ago she drummed up the race card to win over white voters?? 

Hilary, as Term-X would say, is a  "fox in sheep's clothing."

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I've become very disillusioned with this country over the past couple of years. I just wanna finish my college degree and get the fuck outta here.

CNN/FOX/ABC/MSNBC/NBC have successfully implemented their never ending strategy of divide and conquer with the platform they have given to Trump to speak his toxic and xenophobic message to the masses. What future presidential candidate can state "All Mexicans are rapists and criminals" and not have his presidential campaign ended on the spot? Or say Muslims in America were celebrating the 9/11 attacks with absolutely no facts to back this statement after clamoring that he "saw it on the TV somewhere" when no TV station could back that claim? What?? 

I just read how CNN's profits have been insane these past months, because every night at 8pm Trump is giving an interview to contradict something he said on the same show last week, or the morning interview he gave earlier that day. But don't tell the news corporations to fact-check everything he says and hold him to presidential standard because that would ruin their show and ratings. As Frank Underwood said in House of Cards this past season "Politics is prime-time entertainment". 

CNN have gotten to the point where, they don't even care what he says. Trump didn't denounce the KKK? Who cares! The people will forget about this in 2 hours when he says something even more outrageous! BTW, he said he didn't know who david duke was, but back in 2000 he specifically references him by name saying that he represented was a problem for the party.....Looks like david uke and the KKK are only a problem unless they represent a significant portion of your followers, like in South Carolina where 20% of Trump supporters believe the South should have won the Civil War....... I rest my case.  

 

After this political race (not that I did before) ...I don't know how anybody with half a brain takes mainstream journalism and news with any shred of credibility. 

 

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

[manpe 10,861]

Anybody seen this? While I was watching it, I couldn't stop thinking that this is the kind of life that these people seriously want to install all over the world. If you're not a white straight muslim male, you are nobody. Talk about retrogression, this is real bigotry. And this can't even be explained by the west's injustice towards that region, because they are doing worse to their own people who have done no harm to them.

 

 

[Stingray 9,441]

Haters be haters. Fuck off. Greetings from brussels.

Ne welgemeende fuckyou.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Shameful idiots

[Spike 12,049]

20 hours ago, Stingray said:

 

 

Haters be haters. Fuck off. Greetings from brussels.

Ne welgemeende fuckyou.

Fundamentalists, Islamists and Radicals are the most frightening group of people on this planet and the worst part is that they aren't even a minority. They make up nearly 400,000,000 of the Muslim population of the world. I am not a religious man, but I hope for your country and it's people. As well as all others. 

Now we have these morons echoing support for radicalism? Ay yi yi... Some much hatred in the world, where has the compassion gone?

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

You can find idiot comments like that everywhere. What I've seen from Muslims in Belgium is a lot of sadness and a lot of concern about what is now going to happen. The worst among us don't define us, just as I'm not defined by all the racist shit being spewed on Facebook and Twitter right now. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

The target now is most definitely London.
In one of their hate websites they published a poll today for the "most popular target", in which London comes first.
While they may also strike elsewhere if the find some gaping holes in the defense, their primary target is now the UK.

With the coming EU referendum the ISIS are most eager to tilt the balance in favour of the "no" vote.
It's what they want, the dissolution of the EU and isolationism in Europe - this will make things easy for them in the middle East, Africa, their centre of operations.
The "no" supporters should not be offended by this. If they feel offended, then they may also feel offended when told that some 10% of their strength comes from the BNP-communists-trotskyites, as is the known fact.

The islamic terror is similar to the red terror of the 80s, if not exactly identical in genre.
The ideologies are somewhat different.
The relative strengths of those two are also different. The islamic terror confronts us with a real battle, with the red terror it was a war in miniature.

In Greece the reds wanted this to happen:

Make Greece into a rogue state - or "terror sponsoring state". Then Greece becomes an enemy country for the west, the western powers decide to stay away for good measure, the road to power is opened for them. At the same time the extreme right wing factions in Europe were egging on this type of development, by as much as they could under the prevailing circumstances (those extreme right wing movements wish for the simultaneous death of as many so called "third worlders" as possible - make no mistake).
But despite the various acts of terrorism the reds carried out, it appears there was not enough "carburettor spark" to make hammers go. By contrast in the Middle East it was easy, for the groups that were acting there. We had conflagrations every day and those among the Arabs who were against terrorism died the same day.

So it's a deja vu situation. Only the magnitude differs.

The thing to do here, if we want to be serious about it is this:

- First, military action in Syria-Iraq.
- Second, death penalty for terrorists.

If they have to face the firing squad 50 at a time, 100 at a time it's going to calm them down well and truly.

 

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

I don't think the death penalty is a very effective measure to discourage suicide bombers.