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Good piece on Liverpool and their delusions of grandeur, particularly how if Barca or Bayern (seeing as they see themselves as similar calibre) in that predicament would be having an inquest

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11284410/Liverpools-problems-Delusions-of-grandeur-transfer-duds-and-failure-to-fix-clear-flaws-in-the-squad.html

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One this is wasting time or holding people on set pieces and another completely different thing to dive and play-act and try to injure people. Don't care who does the latter I will call him disgraceful (as I have done on this very board to Iva and Rami when they have done similar things in the past). And why would I be upset as a Juve fan? They practically gifted us qualification yesterday by not attacking and putting 10 men around there box. Had they attacked, we would probably have been in trouble. They are well capable of winning in Turin.

I wouldn't say they had 10 men around their box all game. Their play was a mixture of pressing high and sitting deep and they never once looked like conceding in 180 minutes, which is why I suggested you might feel annoyed lol. That Atletico are even considered well capable of beating the Italian champions away in spite of having the heart of their squad ripped out says it all. In fact I'd expect them to beat the English and French champions too. For me it's hard not to admire them even if they do play cynically. I take it you'd never want to see Simeone here then?

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I wouldn't say they had 10 men around their box all game. Their play was a mixture of pressing high and sitting deep and they never once looked like conceding in 180 minutes, which is why I suggested you might feel annoyed lol. That Atletico are even considered well capable of beating the Italian champions away in spite of having the heart of their squad ripped out says it all. In fact I'd expect them to beat the English and French champions too. For me it's hard not to admire them even if they do play cynically. I take it you'd never want to see Simeone here then?

The game in Spain was completely different than the one yesterday, you can't talk about them as the same thing. In Spain, they often pressed high and sometimes retreated to deep, but the battle was mainly in midfield and their were fighting Juve for dominance and in the end emerged on top when in the final 20 minutes the physical conditions of the Atleti players proved better than Juve's.

Yesterday was a whole different story and they rarely looked to press high. In fact, in the last 10 mins when Juve gave up the hope of scoring the two goals they needed, they just allowed us to pass the ball in midfield between our players. Nonetheless we should have scored from the positions we got into but Juve notoriously lack clinical finishing. If Pirlo and Leichsteiner were having good games, Juve would have most likely won.

No one can take away what Simone has achieved with Atleti, but his attitude, especially in the CL final last year, make me have second thoughts about ever wanting him here.

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The game in Spain was completely different than the one yesterday, you can't talk about them as the same thing. In Spain, they often pressed high and sometimes retreated to deep, but the battle was mainly in midfield and their were fighting Juve for dominance and in the end emerged on top when in the final 20 minutes the physical conditions of the Atleti players proved better than Juve's.

Yesterday was a whole different story and they rarely looked to press high. In fact, in the last 10 mins when Juve gave up the hope of scoring the two goals they needed, they just allowed us to pass the ball in midfield between our players. Nonetheless we should have scored from the positions we got into but Juve notoriously lack clinical finishing. If Pirlo and Leichsteiner were having good games, Juve would have most likely won.

No one can take away what Simone has achieved with Atleti, but his attitude, especially in the CL final last year, make me have second thoughts about ever wanting him here.

I agree that they were 2 completely different games from Atletico's point of view. They played for a 1-0 at home and 0-0 away and got both. Yesterday they limited Juve's chances massively and that was a much bigger issue for Juve than finishing. I don't think Atletico would have lost even if some of the opposition players had better games. They are exceptionally good in the big games beating Real Madrid twice this season already and if they'd have conceded they would probably have equalised soon enough.

I'm surprised you'd have to give second thoughts about Simeone though. If he goes to another PL team I'll personally be massively disappointed. I don't think what he did in the CL final was that outrageous. Jose's done far worse.

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Want City to win. United and City seem to be our biggest rivals, if we are the only of the 3 In the cl we won't win the league.

bollocks to that

the mental damage by going our AGAIN in the group stages much be too much for the city players, they might even sack the manager

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