OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Thing is now lets say this super league goes ahead, teams leave domestic leagues, dont play world cups or euro tournaments, whats to stop other teams breaking away and forming other leagues in the future also? People dont seem to understand the magnitude of it. Its going to rip football apart. Laylabelle, Fernando and Randomshit 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I think they should take us Real and City out and put the likes of Porto through, Dortmund through and make Leipzig/Atalanta play and put one of them through as they played against Liverpool and Madrid. It would send a message. People may think is a bit ridiculous but they have to send a message. There are also rumours we and City are looking at a way out if it already, due to the backlash from all the governing bodies and fans etc but honestly, thats even worse than joining it in the first place due to fear of missing out/being left behind. Knowing it wasn’t the right thing to do by the fans and jumping in to it with reservations is an absolute embarrassment and everyone one of them should be sacked. The owners of the 12 clubs, including ours, deserved to be hammered for agreeing to the Super League. But what I don't think is deserving is that us fans and especially the players get denied the chance to win the Champions League because of a decision made by the higher-ups and not them or us. Why are UEFA trying to punish the players, to render their effort in the previous rounds useless because of someone else's making? These players dream of competing and winning the Champions League in their career. Us fans dream of seeing our club win the biggest prize there is in Europe. Why should we have that taken away from us because of ultimately one person's decision here? Why? The players and fans did not ask for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 They can do this: Divide the present champions league (45 countries) in two. The riff-raff can play a champions league II. Then the big clubs will play more. E.g. groups of 5 teams and mini-league for the stage of 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jason said: The owners of the 12 clubs, including ours, deserved to be hammered for agreeing to the Super League. But what I don't think is deserving is that us fans and especially the players get denied the chance to win the Champions League because of a decision made by the higher-ups and not them or us. Why are UEFA trying to punish the players, to render their effort in the previous rounds useless because of someone else's making? These players dream of competing and winning the Champions League in their career. Us fans dream of seeing our club win the biggest prize there is in Europe. Why should we have that taken away from us because of ultimately one person's decision here? Why? The players and fans did not ask for this. True but what is the best way to hurt a clubs owners than kick them out a competition that if they win they get a 100m prize from? Or strip their titles? Or ban them from being in domestic leagues? Aye it is not fair on fans or players but shouldn’t clubs owners not have thought about this before agreeing to it? When it was obviously going to be objected to? Thats why fans and players should be going to clubs and asking what the fuck is going on? There can be no half measures. Even the stripping titles point Gary Neville made yesterday. They should consider it. Send a message. No club or collection of clubs is bigger than FIFA, UEFA or their domestic leagues footballing associations. If they are talking about sending an instant message its the only way. If they back down now people will just do what they want cause they can get away with it. Edited April 19, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey 38 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Those afraid we will be kicked out of CL need not fret..... legally the team kicked out can sue for breach of contract Tell me more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Those afraid we will be kicked out of CL need not fret..... legally the team kicked out can sue for breach of contract And FIFA, UEFA etc can surely also sue the clubs no? Any club who does get kicked out has a real cheek to sue them for this. They made their bed the minute they put their name to this idea, they have to lie in it now. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check Laylabelle and Randomshit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, OneMoSalah said: And FIFA, UEFA etc can surely also sue the clubs no? Any club who does get kicked out has a real cheek to sue them for this. They made their bed the minute they put their name to this idea, they have to lie in it now. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check Exactly. Can't have it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Supermonkey said: Tell me more No team nor player has yet played outside FIFA/UEFA governed match, so they can't do shit and if they will, they will be sued to death, nothing more to it. Funny how every fan know how rotten those organisations are yet most of people are eager to defend them in what is clearly theatrical war for cash and power. Atomiswave and sainttourist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said: True but what is the best way to hurt a clubs owners than kick them out a competition that if they win they get a 100m prize from? Aye it is not fair on fans or players but shouldn’t clubs owners not have thought about this before agreeing to it? When it was obviously going to be objected to? Thats why fans and players should be going to clubs and asking what the fuck is going on? There can be no half measures. Even the stripping titles point Gary Neville made yesterday. They should consider it. Send a message. No club or collection of clubs is bigger than FIFA, UEFA or their domestic leagues. If they are talking about sending an instant message its the only way. If they back down now people will just do what they want cause they can get away with it. I don't have any ideas right now but since these owners just went ahead and agreed to this, how much do you think they really care about getting kicked out this season? What I just DO NOT agree is UEFA trying to punish those guilty by punishing through those that aren't guilty at all. It's just not fucking fair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Not much they can say really. Would love to hear their real feelings lol. Trying to make it clear without saying to much Quite telling how none of the billionaire owners have come out to explain how wonderful their idea is for football ? And not just about them getting richer ?? Theyre spineless snakes, I include Abramovich in that category. Come on, speak publicly about your wonderful plan. They cant because its just greed. OneMoSalah, Randomshit and Laylabelle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Supermonkey said: Tell me more Breach of contract, they can ban us from next season though......though at this point of time I dont think uefa gives a rats ass 3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: And FIFA, UEFA etc can surely also sue the clubs no? Any club who does get kicked out has a real cheek to sue them for this. They made their bed the minute they put their name to this idea, they have to lie in it now. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check Sue the clubs why? The remaining clubs have a contract to fulfil and so do uefa. If they throw us out we will win the battle in court. Whether its right or wrong is another matter. Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Quite telling how none of the billionaire owners have come out to explain how wonderful their idea is for football ? And not just about them getting richer ?? Theyre spineless snakes, I include Abramovich in that category. Come on, speak publicly about your wonderful plan. They cant because its just greed. Perez will come on live tonight to spill the beans Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Quite telling how none of the billionaire owners have come out to explain how wonderful their idea is for football ? And not just about them getting richer ?? Theyre spineless snakes, I include Abramovich in that category. Come on, speak publicly about your wonderful plan. They cant because its just greed. Well, you have Florentino Perez coming out later in Spain to speak about this. But otherwise yeah, they're fucking spineless. They agreed to the decision and then left the manager and players hanging in the media, when they weren't even part of the decision making process. Fulham Broadway and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,817 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This Liverpool game is not really entertaining with nothing on the line. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I think they should take us Real and City out and put the likes of Porto through, Dortmund through and make Leipzig/Atalanta play and put one of them through as they played against Liverpool and Madrid. It would send a message. People may think is a bit ridiculous but they have to send a message. There are also rumours we and City are looking at a way out if it already, due to the backlash from all the governing bodies and fans etc but honestly, thats even worse than joining it in the first place due to fear of missing out/being left behind. Knowing it wasn’t the right thing to do by the fans and jumping in to it with reservations is an absolute embarrassment and everyone one of them should be sacked. Nothing wrong in making a massive U-turn when you realise you've made such a bad/wrong call on something. Laylabelle, Atomiswave and Randomshit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Klopp did said something interesting, UEFA and FIFA are also about money. They are jamming the clubs with more fixtures, and expanding the Club world cup for more games because of money. Fulham Broadway, Laylabelle and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Someone with legal expertise will know better but can UEFA even legally kick out the 5 clubs now when that Super League hasn't even happened? Hasn't it all just been proposal right now? No Super League matches have even taken place yet, the players haven't played one such game yet and heck, I don't even think the players have signed any contract related to the Super League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Fernando said: Klopp did said something interesting, UEFA and FIFA are also about money. They are jamming the clubs with more fixtures, and expanding the Club world cup for more games because of money. Element of truth there. The Premier League has that 'fit and proper person' test for owners. Reality is they let anyone buy a club if they have the millions, because theyre about money too. Its a cliche, but these cunts forget they'd be nothing without the original turnstile fans Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Someone with legal expertise will know better but can UEFA even legally kick out the 5 clubs now when that Super League hasn't even happened? Hasn't it all just been proposal right now? No Super League matches have even taken place yet, the players haven't played one such game yet and heck, I don't even think the players have signed any contract related to the Super League. Of course they can't. It's possible to make a looooong stretch and try to excuse it with "damaging reputation" or something, but it's a long shot and long legal battle, that would be hard to win by uefa and would have terrible PR effect, not only because lack of top clubs, but also this juxtaposed with their blindness to city/psg ffp breaches would be stinky. Edited April 19, 2021 by Vegetable Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, chippy said: Nothing wrong in making a massive U-turn when you realise you've made such a bad/wrong call on something. I really hope this becomes the case. Especially when feelings have been made so clear. Not that doubt they care but be nice to think they do a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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