bluephoenix 1,131 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 parity restored at Bernabeu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 The only thing that really makes me jealous about City is the fact that every single player in their XI is not only good on the ball but also extremely comfortable when being pressed. That's the biggest difference I see between them and us. Their attacking players can either resist the press with great close control or by playing a one touch pass. They're so much better than us in that regard that's it's depressing. When you look on an individual player basis I wouldn't say they're miles and miles better than ours. The likes of Sané, Sterling, Jesus, Fernandinho, etc are all good players I wouldn't consider any of them top class. Their tactics from Pep and their system is just outstanding. They only really have Silva and KDB (+ Aguero when he actually plays) who are truly world class. And just think about that...they can blow away the in form side in Europe without the their talismanic, world class striker. Bernardo Silva, Gündogan and Yaya can't even get in the side. We lose our striker and get outplayed by Palace and look terrible. This sort of progress from year 1 under Guardiola to year 2 is what should've happened with us and Conte. Unfortunately, their ownership and board made massively ambitious moves in the transfer window whilst ours were content to tread water. What's scarier is that City still want Sanchez and who knows who else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: The only thing that really makes me jealous about City is the fact that every single player in their XI is not only good on the ball but also extremely comfortable when being pressed. That's the biggest difference I see between them and us. Their attacking players can either resist the press with great close control or by playing a one touch pass. They're so much better than us in that regard that's it's depressing. When you look on an individual player basis I wouldn't say they're miles and miles better than ours. The likes of Sané, Sterling, Jesus, Fernandinho, etc are all good players I wouldn't consider any of them top class. Their tactics from Pep and their system is just outstanding. They only really have Silva and KDB (+ Aguero when he actually plays) who are truly world class. And just think about that...they can blow away the in form side in Europe without the their talismanic, world class striker. Bernardo Silva, Gündogan and Yaya can't even get in the side. We lose our striker and get outplayed by Palace and look terrible. This sort of progress from year 1 under Guardiola to year 2 is what should've happened with us and Conte. Unfortunately, their ownership and board made massively ambitious moves in the transfer window whilst ours were content to tread water. What's scarier is that City still want Sanchez and who knows who else. Gabriel Jesus is better than any of our attacking players not named Hazard or Morata. And so is Bernado Silva and he's a squad player. They're miles better than us on individual quality. You can't discuss comfort in possession and resistance to press without aknowledging the stark difference in quality between both sides. All these things flow from each other, and ultimately revolve around technical quality. They aren't isolated qualities. kellzfresh, 11Drogba and communicate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said: Gabriel Jesus is better than any of our attacking players not named Hazard or Morata. And so is Bernado Silva and he's a squad player. They're miles better than us on individual quality. You can't discuss comfort in possession and resistance to press without aknowledging the stark difference in quality between both sides. All these things flow from each other, and ultimately revolve around technical quality. They aren't isolated qualities. Meh. Gabriel Jesus is nothing that special to me at this moment. Obviously he's very young and will probably develop into a special player but for now he's benefitting massively from the service he gets from brilliant teammates. It seems like 99% of his goals are easy tap ins. It's a skill to always be in the right place at the right time but he's not scoring worldies or anything. As far as technical ability goes, Willian, Pedro, Hazard, Cesc are all excellent technically yet still we struggle against the press. Kante and Baka are tanks and they struggle against it. Think it comes down to training and philosophy rather than the quality of players. Pep probably has his players working endlessly on this stuff and it shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,956 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Our board offered 5 million for Llorente. Idiots. Such a great back up for Morata... kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Pizy said: When you look on an individual player basis I wouldn't say they're miles and miles better than ours. The likes of Sané, Sterling, Jesus, Fernandinho, etc are all good players I wouldn't consider any of them top class. Their tactics from Pep and their system is just outstanding. They only really have Silva and KDB (+ Aguero when he actually plays) who are truly world class. I have to disagree, their player is much better than us. In midfield Silva, Kdb absolutely trump our midfield and that is not even close. Yes we have kante but he is more of a destroyer and pep does not like to play with ball winner. At front, hazard and morata are great but they have sterling,sane, silva,jesus and aguero. In this city team, the most important player are Silva and KDB hence pep like sane and stering together to provide width. Both of the are really fast and have no problem to stay out wide. At the back yes we may have better gk and CB but at lb/wb position no way. I wish we sign mendy and walker. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Pizy said: Meh. Gabriel Jesus is nothing that special to me at this moment. Obviously he's very young and will probably develop into a special player but for now he's benefitting massively from the service he gets from brilliant teammates. It seems like 99% of his goals are easy tap ins. It's a skill to always be in the right place at the right time but he's not scoring worldies or anything. As far as technical ability goes, Willian, Pedro, Hazard, Cesc are all excellent technically yet still we struggle against the press. Kante and Baka are tanks and they struggle against it. Think it comes down to training and philosophy rather than the quality of players. Pep probably has his players working endlessly on this stuff and it shows. Kante and Baka are not great technically. Cesc is very unathletic and we always know that he struggle against press. Those are your 3 key midfielder not great against pressing. I don't get how can you compare us with City whereas city has two WC midfielder and fernandinho who people forget was actually more of a box to box player rather than a holder or a destroyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 This City Napoli game tonight has all the potential to be an absolute cracker of a game. If there is one team who can beat City right now it's Napoli. Blusan Alamb and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: This City Napoli game tonight has all the potential to be an absolute cracker of a game. If there is one team who can beat City right now it's Napoli. Sarri is a fantastic tactician in attacking football. His love for technical players all over the team and pressing football is exactly how I love football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 How in hell are Spurs so good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1-0 Spurs. Beautiful football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Could you imagine us playing this comfortable and convincing against Real Madrid? No, me neither. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Beigl said: Could you imagine us playing this comfortable and convincing against Real Madrid? No, me neither. Lol, currently not even what City is doing at Napoli, let alone RM... Blusan Alamb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Everyone so far anyway on the way to a win..except us..different.. 2-0 spurs I do worry about us if go through..not that there yet mind Blusan Alamb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledg 643 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If the groups shape up exactly the same, like they're atm, being second in our group is going to be the worst. PSG, Barca or Besiktas and we're definitely not gonna draw Besiktas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Best night of European football in years just for these 2 big games IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Ledgi said: If the groups shape up exactly the same, like they're atm, being second in our group is going to be the worst. PSG, Barca or Besiktas and we're definitely not gonna draw Besiktas. Definitely be PSG for ole time sake...yay haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Spuds haven't even been great here. They've been much better at other points this season. Real Madrid have been awful and Spuds clinical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Pizy said: Spuds haven't even been great here. They've been much better at other points this season. Real Madrid have been awful and Spuds clinical. Spurs looked timid against United but here they are, taking the European champions apart. Weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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