OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yes,Raul is more experienced than Josh but keeping Raul for another season or a half might ruin our chance of ever getting rid of him.I think if we need to get rid of any midfield player it should be Essien, he is not the player we used to know. Plus we could keep Raul then when his deals done get rid, I think he has to be kept if we are to compete in multiple competitions like the FA cup, CL(maybe not next season), League Cup, just for rotation and use him to rest some players also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Essien must go. I think he should retire actually, so people will remember him as the greatest midfielder to come out of Africa (excluding those who played for non-African countries, Zidane and Makelele) rather than a crock who went to shit after one brush too many with the physio's table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Moussa Dembele £8.5-10.5 million- Also PL proven, cheap alternative for a creative player, also versatile can play on wings, would have Belgian team mates at CFC in KDB, Lukaku and Courtious. If it were up to me, i would name you the new chelsea manager but i don't agree with one of your signings - Dembele You have 30 players in the squad you named(although u have included a lot of youngsters) and many of the wingers can provide cover for striker position. Lavezzi and Kalou can play as Strikers and with Piazon and Lalkovic improving every week, adding another striker simply creates squad congestion. Dembele has a well-documented injury problem and is also inconsistent. He doesn't guarantee 20 goals a season. Btw, Jeffrey Bruma is on a 2 year loan deal at Hamburg - so make it 29. And instead of Raul Meireles, it is better to use McEachran. You have not addressed the main issue with the squad either - CREATIVITY. We have enough defensive midfielders, so instead of Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye would be a better option because even he can play deep and is a brilliant passer of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 If it were up to me, i would name you the new chelsea manager but i don't agree with one of your signings - DembeleYou have 30 players in the squad you named(although u have included a lot of youngsters) and many of the wingers can provide cover for striker position.Lavezzi and Kalou can play as Strikers and with Piazon and Lalkovic improving every week, adding another striker simply creates squad congestion.Dembele has a well-documented injury problem and is also inconsistent. He doesn't guarantee 20 goals a season.Btw, Jeffrey Bruma is on a 2 year loan deal at Hamburg - so make it 29. And instead of Raul Meireles, it is better to use McEachran. You have not addressed the main issue with the squad either - CREATIVITY. We have enough defensive midfielders, so instead of Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye would be a better option because even he can play deep and is a brilliant passer of the ball.I forgot about the 25 man squad thing writing that tbh lol anyway aren't some of the youth players able to be classed as B team players or is that only in the CL?Anyway.. Dembele isn't really a striker, hes plays in the hole behind the striker/attacking midfield, he is creative and seriously underrated imo. Lavezzi is able to play upfront but he would be a good option to provide width in our squad. Maybe another defensive midfielder isn't top of our shopping list but Mikel isn't consistent enough and isn't as mobile as Tiote is, plus some think Mikel isn't good enough. If we were to play 2 holding players we would need another holding player as Meireles isn't disciplined enough to play there and Lampard is clearly much better in an attacking role.I think we should recall Jeffrey from Hamburg next year as he has undoubted potential and with JT and Branna getting older he would provide good competition in the squad and since Branna is played at RB more than CB, we will probably need another body for cover.Also I'm sure Lavezzi and Dembele would provide some creativity and would be able to take the weight off Mata's shoulders, as he was coming up with the answers earlier this season AND if De Bruyne, Lampard, Meireles, Benayoun and Ramires could provide assists and or just create chances more in general we would be doing alright. I reckon they are all capable of providing chances for team mates and themselves but its just getting them to do it consistently so it is noticeable. And Cabaye, as good a player as he is, I don't think he'd move one year in to his contract at Newcastle. If he did, he would also provide some creativity but playing him as a deeper midfielder would be pointless as he is more a box to box midfielder rather than a defensive midfielder like Tiote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I forgot about the 25 man squad thing writing that tbh lol anyway aren't some of the youth players able to be classed as B team players or is that only in the CL?Anyway.. Dembele isn't really a striker, hes plays in the hole behind the striker/attacking midfield, he is creative and seriously underrated imo. Lavezzi is able to play upfront but he would be a good option to provide width in our squad. Maybe another defensive midfielder isn't top of our shopping list but Mikel isn't consistent enough and isn't as mobile as Tiote is, plus some think Mikel isn't good enough. If we were to play 2 holding players we would need another holding player as Meireles isn't disciplined enough to play there and Lampard is clearly much better in an attacking role.I think we should recall Jeffrey from Hamburg next year as he has undoubted potential and with JT and Branna getting older he would provide good competition in the squad and since Branna is played at RB more than CB, we will probably need another body for cover.Also I'm sure Lavezzi and Dembele would provide some creativity and would be able to take the weight off Mata's shoulders, as he was coming up with the answers earlier this season AND if De Bruyne, Lampard, Meireles, Benayoun and Ramires could provide assists and or just create chances more in general we would be doing alright. I reckon they are all capable of providing chances for team mates and themselves but its just getting them to do it consistently so it is noticeable. And Cabaye, as good a player as he is, I don't think he'd move one year in to his contract at Newcastle. If he did, he would also provide some creativity but playing him as a deeper midfielder would be pointless as he is more a box to box midfielder rather than a defensive midfielder like Tiote.All the creativity is in the final third of the pitch. the attacks will fizzle out by then. a deep-lying playmaker is invaluable today but your team seems alright now. romeu should don the role of the deep passer then we will be devastating in attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 All the creativity is in the final third of the pitch. the attacks will fizzle out by then. a deep-lying playmaker is invaluable today but your team seems alright now. romeu should don the role of the deep passer then we will be devastating in attackHmm suppose, wish Makalele was like 10 years younger and still playing for us. He was effectively a deep lying player and defensive midfielder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hmm suppose, wish Makalele was like 10 years younger and still playing for us. He was effectively a deep lying player and defensive midfielder!I think Romeu has the potential to be that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,533 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think Romeu has the potential to be thatif he's given a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death B4 Dishonour 32 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 We need to scout the Bundesliga more, although it is very hard to lure the young German's away as most of them are pretty faithful.A few player's i think would be good signings are:Lewis Holtby, very similar to Gotze and a lot cheaper.Lucas Barrios, he is a very effective striker and has lost his spot to Lewandowski, we scouted him at the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Lewis Holtby or Julian Draxler. Both are gonna be very good, maybe snap one of them.I know Falcao and Cavani are better options than Doumbia. But I'd take Hazard anytime and I doubt we would bought Falcao aswell . Only those two are 80mio + we need DM, creative midfielder and RB. Just a rumour I heard that Roman is preparing 247£ mio for transfers with four targets: 2 full backs, striker and creative midfielder. I hope its true, however we dont really need two fullbacks, but defensive midfielder and one rb. Still I doubt this is true, but who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 We need to scout the Bundesliga more, although it is very hard to lure the young German's away as most of them are pretty faithful.A few player's i think would be good signings are:Lewis Holtby, very similar to Gotze and a lot cheaper.Lucas Barrios, he is a very effective striker and has lost his spot to Lewandowski, we scouted him at the end of last season.Kagawa is the one we should be going after (after Gotze obviously). Kagawa looks like a really good player with Flair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Germany is probably the world leader in youth production at the moment, although Belgium, Spain and Brazil aren't too far off. We can get Belgians and Brazilians and perhaps Spaniards, but Germans generally tend to prefer to stay in their own country- for them, no club is bigger than Dortmund or Bayern or whatever. And they're right, in a way. Many Bundesliga clubs can offer competitive wages vs. England and Spain, so there's no incentive at all for them to go overseas, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sturridge will leave, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Just a rumour I heard that Roman is preparing 247£ mio for transfers with four targets: 2 full backs, striker and creative midfielder. I hope its true, however we dont really need two fullbacks, but defensive midfielder and one rb. Still I doubt this is true, but who knows...I hope Roman is ready to Spend BIG, 247 million is too much, IF Roman gave the new manager a Blank Cheque I reckon 160 million would turn our Squad into UCL winning MaterialIn: Hazard, Gotze, Modric or Lavezzi (depending on our needs), Cavani and Azpilicueta--Mata/Hazard----Cavani-----Lavezzi/Strurridge--------------------Mata/Gotze---------------------------Modric/Ramires-----------Romeu/Mikel-------Cole/Bert---JT/Bruma---Luiz/Cahill--Ivan/Az---------------------------Cech------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sturridge cant leave, if he goes, we are doomed. I hope he extended contract, did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sturridge cant leave, if he goes, we are doomed. I hope he extended contract, did he?He is holding out for bigger Wages. That added with the fact that he is not playing in his Preferred Position and the crowd slowly turning on him points to a possible exit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 That new list of Roman's targets is great, but Hazard, Gotze and other top profile players will want 100,000+ weekly wages. If we buy them, we will be in big minus...Among Mata, all defenders, Ramires, Strurridge is one I'd certainly keept for next years. With many old or bad players leaving, we cant afford to lose this caliber players. But I'm sure he'll stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Danny is a player we need to keep , i would keep him over Torres if it came to it. But he is ambitious so he may leave for another club , its worrying that we could become a selling club in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 That new list of Roman's targets is great, but Hazard, Gotze and other top profile players will want 100,000+ weekly wages. If we buy them, we will be in big minus...Among Mata, all defenders, Ramires, Strurridge is one I'd certainly keept for next years. With many old or bad players leaving, we cant afford to lose this caliber players. But I'm sure he'll stay.Well the likes of Drogba and the Old guard are on high wages, if we get rid of them than It's not too much of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Lets hope Roman means seriously this time. If he means, lot of players comming and lot of them goes. Boss, ferreira, essien/mikel, kalou, malouda, drogba, benayoun for sure. Think Lampard should stay for experience, while I still dont know about Meireles. If we get proper replacement fine, other way he can stay. 6-7 new players, Azpi, Mvila/Witsel/Tiote/Moutinho/Martinez/...,2x Cabaye/Belhanda/Hamsik/Modric/..., Falcao/Cavani/Doumbia/..., 2x Hazard/Lavezzi/Hulk/Ayew/...And add Hoilett for freeBut there are always cheaper options like de Maros from Atletic, Marvin from Sochaux,...that could turn 10x better than Modric, but for much less money. If we will be able to spend that much money, I hope our coach will spend it wisely. Not too much, not too less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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