Rumoured Shinji Kagawa

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

United are in decline.

I've no idea how you've come to that conclusion, but they are undoubtedly a bigger club than Dortmund. Kagawa's decision to join United was clearly not solely because he wanted more money.

[Cosmin 2,484]

United are in decline.

Yes, they are not as good as they were 2 or 3 years ago, but they can always come back at the highest level. They never invested too much in transfers (less than Liverpool in the Premier League era), but Ferguson is a genius as manager.

Anyway, Hazard is at least as mercenary as Kagawa.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I hate this "mercenary" stuff. Every single player is a mercenary. Why do Hazard and Hulk want to come to Chelsea? Because of their deep love for the club? Footballers are people, and any of us would go to a job that paid us the most and gave us the best opportunity.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Well he is a top, top player always enjoyed watching him at Dortmund. This year he has been brilliant, made more of an impact to their success in this season than the 1st because of his injury. Gotze may attract the big names but Kagawa's touch and vision could make him an essential part of United's team. He's also scored a lot of important goals this season and I reckon he'll link up well with Rooney. First Japanese player they've ever had I believe, so their will be a big prospect for shirt sales since their Asian fans make up 325 million of the 659 (or whatever) they have.

[DDA 9,924]

You fuckers need to stop over analyzing everything with statistics. Both Kagawa and Hazard haven't played in the PL yet, so how do we know those statistics will hold up? I don't need to mention names for you to know previous statistics in weaker leagues have meant nothing when adapting to the PL.

[Spike 12,049]

You fuckers need to stop over analyzing everything with statistics. Both Kagawa and Hazard haven't played in the PL yet, so how do we know those statistics will hold up? I don't need to mention names for you to know previous statistics in weaker leagues have meant nothing when adapting to the PL.

Some fuckers like to use Statistics as a means for a debate. Statistics only tell 50% of the story but they are still important.

[manpe 10,861]

Some fuckers like to use Statistics as a means for a debate. Statistics only tell 50% of the story but they are still important.

Stats provide some sort of basis for comparison, but it needs to be on level terms. They rarely tell the full story. Since they (Kagawa and Hazard) are different players who never played in the same league, comparing stats is redundant but can make some people sleep better in their hopeful dreams.

[DDA 9,924]

I was going to reply but Manpe addressed everything i needed to say! If statistics help you sleep better at night then crack on i guess!

[Spike 12,049]

Stats provide some sort of basis for comparison, but it needs to be on level terms. They rarely tell the full story. Since they (Kagawa and Hazard) are different players who never played in the same league, comparing stats is redundant but can make some people sleep better in their hopeful dreams.

Hence the reason I said only half the story is told by stats. The don't reveal the influence of a deflection, penalty, foul, free kick, corner, red card, yellow card, injuries, weather, home or away, team, postion, teammates, et al

[Superblue 6,372]

Hence the reason I said only half the story is told by stats. The don't reveal the influence of a deflection, penalty, foul, free kick, corner, red card, yellow card, injuries, weather, home or away, team, postion, teammates, et al

Yeah as stats tell you that Torres has scored 12 goals for Chelsea, but it doesn't tell you that he's only scored against REALLY REALLY SHIT TEAMS.

Such as QPR, Genk, Man Utd and Barcelona

[Madmax 9,219]

United have certainly got themselves a top young player. What will be interesting to see is how Ferguson changes the team's setup to get Kagawa into the side.

[Ollie 4,400]

They needed a CM for ages and now they finally have one who is a fantastic young player, lets see how they do. they will be a lot better than last season but i still think they need a decent defender.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

They needed a CM for ages and now they finally have one who is a fantastic young player, lets see how they do. they will be a lot better than last season but i still think they need a decent defender.

Kagawa is an AM not CM...This signing doesn't make sense to me. He should have gotten a Xabi Alonso/Modric type player

[Spike 12,049]

They needed a CM for ages and now they finally have one who is a fantastic young player, lets see how they do. they will be a lot better than last season but i still think they need a decent defender.

I cringe to see Kagawa playing at CM. There would be so many holes in the MF teams like Arsenal and Manchester City will just stroll through it. Kagawa is very much a forward, playing behind the CF or on the wings.

Actually nevermind, that if Kagawa is playing at CM, it will make it easier for Chelsea to thrash ManUtd.

[Drogzola 283]

I cant wait for the Chelsea vs Man U games next season,,,,I can see headlines now Hazard vs Kagawa, who was the better signing?