Kevin de Bruyne

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Actually I love facts :-) considering work rate, he had the highest measurable on the Bundesliga. Fact. Our idea on bodylanguage is actually that people very much suck at intepreting bodylanguage. All there is now is a 'too small pool' to draw much more than a sheet opinion from.

So yes. We make - so does Jose- interpretations.

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There could be a difference from the Bundesliga to here. Players can be very different in two different kinds of leagues.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Does it matter how many games has Bertrand played though? The fact is he has played well whenever called upon but yet Mourinho doesn't play him when Cole is out despite banging about all along on meritocracy.

You could point to tactical or physical reasons as to why Bertrand and/or De Bruyne aren't/isn't playing OR it could be just the simple fact that Mourinho doesn't fancy/favor them. Managers, after all, have their preferences when it comes to selecting their players and Mourinho is no different either.

So has Azpilicueta as well though. Right?

It's clear he doesn't fancy/favor them. All I'm saying is that there is a reason behind it. It's not like just cause Azpilicueta , Lampard, Oscar or Ramires send Jose goodnight texts so he plays them. Sorry, but I just can't see Jose doing that. Especially on such a level.

Either has something to do with work-ethic, tactical role or a long term plan as said before about converting a player.

[Jase 43,479]

So has Azpilicueta as well though. Right?

Yes but the point is Bertrand has played well and deserves more start in Cole's absence at LB. Instead, he's seeing a RB being played in his natural position ahead of him!

It's clear he doesn't fancy/favor them. All I'm saying is that there is a reason behind it. It's not like just cause Azpilicueta , Lampard, Oscar or Ramires send Jose goodnight texts so he plays them. Sorry, but I just can't see Jose doing that. Especially on such a level.

Either has something to do with work-ethic, tactical role or a long term plan as said before about converting a player.

OR maybe it just boils down to the simple fact that Mourinho just doesn't see them as his type of player.

You can bang on about Jose doesn't do this and that with players but face it, managers have their preferences in terms of who they prefer and not for their team. It happens, even with some of the other top managers. Not saying this is the exact reason for what is happening but it could well be.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Yes but the point is Bertrand has played well and deserves more start in Cole's absence at LB. Instead, he's seeing a RB being played in his natural position ahead of him!

. It's an obvious outright insult if you are a left-back and not allowed to play in your position cause a right-back is first choice. ​That's what I was trying to say by Jose trying to convert Azpi into a left-back . He's done really well, and would be an obvious first choice as the left-back above Bertrand !

OR maybe it just boils down to the simple fact that Mourinho just doesn't see them as his type of player. You can bang on about Jose doesn't do this and that with players but face it, managers have their preferences in terms of who they prefer and not for their team. It happens, even with some of the other top managers. Not saying this is the exact reason for what is happening but it could well be.

Type of player that Chelsea needs then yes. That could be true. Preferences in the sense that Jose has a connection with a particular player which is not exactly professional, then I disagree. For me preferences come down to what they can bring to the team. Whether they will be able to play the way the manager wants to play !

[Jase 43,479]

. It's an obvious outright insult if you are a left-back and not allowed to play in your position cause a right-back is first choice. ​That's what I was trying to say by Jose trying to convert Azpi into a left-back . He's done really well, and would be an obvious first choice as the left-back above Bertrand !

That's only beside the point. Only used that situation as a case to back up the point of Mourinho's weird thinking of selection and in reference to De Bruyne's scenario..

Type of player that Chelsea needs then yes. That could be true. Preferences in the sense that Jose has a connection with a particular player which is not exactly professional, then I disagree. For me preferences come down to what they can bring to the team. Whether they will be able to play the way the manager wants to play !

Don't be naive, it can happen. But really, read my last post again.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

That's only beside the point. Only used that situation as a case to back up the point of Mourinho's weird thinking of selection and in reference to De Bruyne's scenario..

Don't be naive, it can happen. But really, read my last post again.

Sorry then. Agree to strongly disagree.

[Barbara 15,149]

why talk about meritocracy sometimes as the answer to some players and ignore it for others?

If one player is doing well he deserves to be in the team, but to actually make it to the team he has to not only do well but better than the other contenders to the spot. Azpilicueta did better at RB than Bertrand, so the same meritocracy that would have played Bertrand, plays Cesar instead. And in the case they both showed the same 'deserving' rate, then it's down to preference, but why on earth should we question the meritocracy in Mourinho's choice of Cesar in the LB when he did so well there? So just because Ryan is a natural LB he deserves better even if Cesar played better? Then it comes down to rightfulness - as if Ryan had the rightful spot - instead of merit. I swear I can't follow this reasoning... I mean one could question why Ryan isn't playing, but label it down to a failure in meritocracy when Azpilicueta has been one of our best players in the whole team, not only in the position when playing in RB makes no sense whatsoever.

As for Kevin and his work-rate, I can't say from Werder Bremen because I didn't watch it, but for us? Did nothing for me. He has started 4 matches (Hull, ManU, Swindon and Arsenal) and he has a total of 1 tackle, 0 interceptions, 0 blocks, 0 clearances. I know stats won't tell the whole story, but it's doesn't scream work-rate imo.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

Nice pity run-out there from Jose. Wtf is he going to do in like 5 minutes?

[yuvala 2,167]

Nice pity run-out there from Jose. Wtf is he going to do in like 5 minutes?

yea.. thanks for the huge chance to impress Mou!

[DJames 729]

**pretends I read all the posts from pages 215 to now***

After today, I'd really like Mou to give KDB a chance in the Lampard role or just in lieu of Lampard really. I haven't seen him enough to know how he's defensively but we can certainly use his offensive abilities to start an attack.

[Neira 19]

Brought in to kill time, added value for kevin=0,000000005

[The Skipper 20,593]

Should be given more chances considering our AMs are not impressing consistently at all.

[Fernando 6,454]

Just read that atlético Madrid are in for him.

[Stingray 9,441]

Just read that atlético Madrid are in for him.

Old news actually that is reported to be a long shot.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Kevin is actually a very technical player with a fantastic touch. That's how little we've seen him play at Chelsea ...

So I'd much rather see him in la liga, but indeed as a sale, not on loan, no value in that for Chelsea except perhaps increasing his market value again ... but that has nothing to do with football

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Of course he's technically very good, but the man can also run and keep running. That's why he did so great in Germany last year. If he has to leave, I'd rather see him there, because frankly, it's just a better league than Spain. Take away the top three teams there and all you get is mediocrity. Also, it won't be much easier to get a starting spot at Atletico if you ask me. He might as well just stay here then.

[TrippingStep 336]

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Of course he's technically very good, but the man can also run and keep running. That's why he did so great in Germany last year. If he has to leave, I'd rather see him there, because frankly, it's just a better league than Spain. Take away the top three teams there and all you get is mediocrity. Also, it won't be much easier to get a starting spot at Atletico if you ask me. He might as well just stay here then.

Bayern and Dortmund are much better teams than the rest of the german teams.

Most of the german teams don't know how to defend.

[Sovieticus 743]

Would love to see him in Dortmund.. IMO would be great team for him.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Would love to see him in Dortmund.. IMO would be great team for him.

Wouldn't be much different, Mkhitaryan who is a far better player atm is playing CAM role. On the wing there are Reus and Kuba, Kuba is probably still slightly ahead of Kevin in term of quality atm but in the long run Kevin might be better. He should go to some team like Wolfburg where he will definitely play in those attacking positions he wants and all the time because there are no competition.